MBB: Liberty League

[bucketsallday]

i know, i was just curious. I wish I could be there for the st lawrence vassar game. i urge anyone who is in the hamilton area to go - they match up very well with each other and both teams know the game. i think it will all come down to whether or not vassar can keep sharlow under control when they played at vassar, he controlled the game - i think he had 21 and 8 dimes or something, and got in the lane whenever he wanted to. if vassar can keep him from going crazy and knock down some shots (never shoot well at hamilton) i think vassar will win.

the battle of the frontline is huge too - especially avitable vs the kid 34 - hes a double double machine. regardless, gonnna be a great tourney, and i think all thre teams can make some noise in the ncaas if given a chance.

[woot returns]

LL player of the year: I guess its between TK of hamilton , Avitable of vassar, or grazioli of hobart

Even though i am a hamilton fan, i would give the honors to avitable. He does everything on the basketball court and is a true leader for his team. he brings it every night and can score 25 when his tema needs it or dish out 10 assists if necessary. There is no equal to him in the liberty league when it comes down to versatility on the basketball court.

[Hoaf]

I'm with Woot.

Avitable does everything for Vassar and he deserves the recognition.

[rjcarter8]

you cant say vassar is a top four LL team and that's it when you consider the fact that they beat st lawrence at st lawrence and lost to them at home after stl hit three at the buzzer to send the game to ot. vassar caught hamilton on a bad night - after they get beat by hobart. outside of avitable, vassar just couldnt hit a shot. nights like that happen.

does anyone know if hobart or rpi still has a chance to get in if union loses, or does union have the tiebreakers? i think hobart has it over union because they knocked hamilton.

Yes, Hobart did beat Hamilton, but Union swept Hobart, thus giving them head-to-head tiebreaker. As for RPI, I'm not sure (they split), what would happen.

[labart96]

bart was up 42-25 over vassar at the end of the 1st half.  now up by 20 with about 18 mins to play.

[labart96]

bart beats vassar by 7....too little too late though.  union wins and snags the #4 seed.  oh well.  nice run by the statesmen to finish up the year.

[Hoaf]

Hamilton's hosting the tournament.

Union, St. Lawrence, and Vassar are also in.

I think anyone could win it. Hamilton has been playing well recently. Vassar has dropped a couple games in a row. St. Lawrence will hold its own.

If SLU loses in the finals I think they could receive an at-large bid.

Hamilton needs to win out in order to make the NCAA tournament.

Thoughts??

[shooters]

Ya if SLU loses in finals and go 21-6, they could very easily get an at large bid. I kind of wish Hobart would have made the tourney they seem to be playing some of the better ball in the league right now, but their run came a bit too late. I would agree w/ Avitable as POY but TK is the better player, just didn't happen this season for him for whatever reasons. I would also agree that Hamilton has to win tourney to get bid, and I think they will if they continue to shoot well.

[bucketsallday]

what does everyone think about for first team all conference.

mine is avitable and brazell, TK, grazioli, mackey and wesson (theres 6 first team spots if i remember correctly).

[Hoaf]

I'd go with TK, Grazioli, and Avitablie on the first team. I don't know who else.

Player of the year is a toss up between Avitabile and TK. I think TK will win out because his team won the LL.

Rookie of the year: Dave Alston over the past two weeks. He's looked amazing and put together some great highlight worthy plays.

[bucketsallday]

theres no way tk deserves player of the year over avitable. if anyone saw the second half of the hobart game they would agree with me - he scored 19 pts, handled the ball for vassar, was the point man on the press. he puts up the same amount of points and boards as tk, has more assists, steals and blocks, shoots a better percentage, and is nowhere near as athlecitally gifted as tk. and had to that tk missed time this year.

all that said, i think tk will get it just because he is tk and he plays for hamilton. and nothing against tk, hes a great player and had a great year, but avitable had a helluva year for vassar, and he deserves the recognition. he has turned the vassar program around.

[Hoaf]

But he also doesn't win as much as TK.


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Also, he misses free throws.

[bucketsallday]

hoaf - correct me if im wrong, but is this an exact quote from a post you made feb. 17th:
"Avitable does everything for Vassar and he deserves the recognition."

your about as consistent as tk.

[Hoaf]

He does deserve the recognition but he doesn't deserve player of the year.

[bucketsallday]

i think your right that tk gets it, but he was the third best player in the league this year - especially during conference play.