MBB: Liberty League

[Hoaf]

That's because TK's not on such a poor team as Avitabile. Vassar is doing well in the ECAC but I'm surprised because of how poor they've played when I've been in attendance during LL games this year.

If TK was on a lower caliber team he would be putting up similar numbers. Hamilton has at least 3 or 4 players that he had to share the ball with this year and he still put up excellent numbers.

[bucketsallday]

vassar wins ecacs on two free throws by lenny holt with 5 seconds left.

[slickyquick]

Interesting subplot with one of the NCAA Sweet 16 teams. Josh Loeffler, former Hamilton and SLU assistant is the head coach of Stevens Tech. They received an at-large bid after losing in their conference semis. Congrats to him, I'm sure Coach Muprhy and Coach Downs are proud.

[b4the3isme]

Congrats to Vassar on ECAC win.  I'm pretty sure that every single game in that tournament played out according to seeding, which makes the organizers look like Einsteins. Glad to see some success for the oft maligned LL.

[FisherDynasty]

B4the3some, on your post in the E8 board. I think Amherst is going to go all the way this year or lose to stevens point, They have soo much fire power its insane, they will most likely face Wooster but ill take amherst by about 5.

[labart96]

most games haven't been that close with a few exceptions.  tgp expects tighter contests with the sweet 16 upon us.

btw - what happened with slu?  looks like brockport really took it to them.  not even close.

[bucketsallday]

anyone from the LL going to make the all-region team? i dont really know enough about other conferences to comment, although i would expect tk to make it. im pullin for avitable and grazioli to make it as well, give the LL the recognition it deserves.

[b4the3isme]

Fish Dyn - I'll take that bet.  Amherst is a great team but I think they are down from previous years and the league is also.  They lost a couple of late league games to Trinity and to Williams in the tournament.  Trinity took an earlier exit from the dance compliments of Brandeis which was a UAA also ran. Williams got beat by Brockport and I think at home early in the year by a LL also ran RPI.  To further compound Brandeis took a seat to Rhode Island that barely got by 14-13 Coast Guard at home.  So my gut feeling is that while that bracket is usually nasty it is not where it has been in recent years.   I still think Amherst comes out of it but once you get them out of their home environment at Salem they'll have problems.  P.S. of the 4 bids the UAA got (Wash U, Chicago, UR & Brandeis) only Wash U is alive and they face UW- st pt this weekend.

[FisherDynasty]

I understand your agrument how they have lost as of late and the league is down. However, how do you figure Amherst is down? they only lost 1 key contributor from last years team (bedford).  Everyone else has another year of experience and growth,  not to mention they had an amazing bench to take bedfords place in a second.  Their 6-10 guys could start on any team on the east coast (obviously not all on the same team but a few for each).  I think Wooster talent wise is the only team that compares, however, I dont think they are as deep or as big at the guard spots as amherst.  Also, Woosters starting 4 man has been hurt and is coming off the bench, Just not deep enough in my opinion.  If amherst is shooting well which they usually are they are pretty much unbeatable.  Also, trinity and williams are in their league, league games are much tougher to win, since you play a few times and know the inn's and outs to a tee. 

[b4the3isme]

Fish Dyn- again my arguement stems from the loss of a 3rd team all-american (bedford) who was not only the leading scorer but rebounder as a 6'3" guard, also I'm pretty sure that John Casnocha a 6'6" forward who averaged close to double figures also graduated. I'm pretty sure both were starters for the whole season.  Don't get me wrong other than a NY team I'd love for Amherst to kick some mid-western butt, but they lost some big time players and I can't see them beating Wooster in Salem (should that be the matchup).  In fact should SJF or B-port or even J Car come out of the bracket, for the first time in years, I think, at Salem even one of these lesser teams may have a least a shot at Amherst.  I'm not a Lord Jeff hater by any means, other than B-port & SJF, they are my sentimental favorite as my Dad went there.

[b4the3isme]

P.S. Fish Dyn I hope everything I said doesn't come true!  I'd love for there to be a BEAST FROM THE EAST!!!!!

[FisherDynasty]

I didnt notice Casnocha was gone as well, that does hurt a little bit.  Bedford was a hell of a player and his loss does hurt.  I do know that amherst had some very good players come off the bench last year (6'7 transfer from Brown, 6'10 big guy, a very good shooter, and another 6'7 all around good player).  Olsen is one of the top pg's in the country and the team is very well coached.  Should be interesting, I hope to see Wooster play at sjfc then maybe i'll have a better opinion. 

[b4the3isme]

Fish Dyn- sounds logical to me.  Come back on and give me an opinion!!

[UCAAHoops21]

any truth to a rumor I heard twice now floating around that Skidmore is looking for a new coach?  I believe the sources that told me, but haven't seen anything...I think there are a few Skidmore posters around here...anybody have some news?

[Hoaf]

Anyone think the LL will have anybody on the All-Region team?