MBB: Liberty League

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magicman

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Hobart manages to get by Roberts Wesleyan in OT 81-80.

Friday's games:

Semi-finals

Hobart vs Nazareth at Rochester    6 PM

St. John Fisher vs Rochester at Rochester  8PM

Consolations

RIT vs Brockport at Geneseo  6PM

Roberts Wesleyan vs Geneseo at Geneseo  8PM



with age came?

Saw Potsdam beat Clarkson this week.  Somewhat surprised...   The league will interesting this year to say the least.  Still think at the end of the day Hobart will be the team to beat with Union, Clarkson, Skidmore, SLU and possibly RPI fighting for playoff spots.  Just can not see Bard, Vassar or RIT quite in the mix but I have no clue about incoming freshman so that is the wildcard.

OldDanny

As far as RIT, I agree that they might not be in the mix at season's end, however, I watched them play Rochester tough in the opening round of the Wendy's Classic at Hobart.   RIT is athletic and could win a few games that keep them in the hunt.  I'm not sure if they will be consistent enough to make a playoff run, but they are a team that I wouldn't like to play with something on the line.

buck1053

Now that the league season has started, any impressions from the early slate of games?

Also, why is it that St. Lawrence and Vassar haven't played any league games yet? Clarkson has played one league game and Bard has played two, aren't those squads the St. Lawrence and Vassar travel partners?

Pat Coleman

It does seem unusual that Union would have played three games and St. Lawrence and Bard none. With nine teams, some of the schedule has to be unbalanced, but with the Wendy's/Chase/Rochester area tournament no longer taking place in January, hopefully the LL schedule will balance out.

Perhaps St. Lawrence or Vassar has some sort of conflict with their class schedule or they're on a trimester system or there's something academic that prevented them from playing games this weekend. The travel partners meet midweek this week, however:
http://www.d3hoops.com/conf/LL/Men/2012-13/schedule?confonly=1
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magicman

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 07, 2013, 10:59:20 AM
It does seem unusual that Union would have played three games and St. Lawrence and Bard none. With nine teams, some of the schedule has to be unbalanced, but with the Wendy's/Chase/Rochester area tournament no longer taking place in January, hopefully the LL schedule will balance out.

Perhaps St. Lawrence or Vassar has some sort of conflict with their class schedule or they're on a trimester system or there's something academic that prevented them from playing games this weekend. The travel partners meet midweek this week, however:
http://www.d3hoops.com/conf/LL/Men/2012-13/schedule?confonly=1

St. Lawrence has been too busy playing in the SUNYAC conference.  ;D Unfortuately the Saints are 0-4 in conference play there. :o Their worst showing against the YAC in maybe... forever. The Liberty League overall is 1-10 against the SUNYAC this year.

buck1053

Magic, is St. Lawrence down this year? 2-7? And they got beat pretty good by Brockport.

magicman

Quote from: buck1053 on January 08, 2013, 12:47:50 AM
Magic, is St. Lawrence down this year? 2-7? And they got beat pretty good by Brockport.

buck,
I think the entire league is down this year. The Liberty League lost a ton of good players through graduation and the league has struggled in out of conference play. Union and Clarkson have gaudy records but really haven't played a challenging schedule. I think Hobart is probably the team to beat for the conference title. I believe the only team to get to the NCAA tournament this year will be the automatic qualifier.

magicman

In Liberty League action on Friday night:

Vassar defeats host St Lawrence 48-47 on a last second buzzer beater.

RPI defeats visiting RIT 105-86.

Skidmore defeats host Union 76-66

Clarkson defeats visiting Bard 75-45.


The standings as of 1-11-13

Hobart            3-0    7-4
Union              3-1    11-2
RPI                 2-1    7-5
Skidmore          2-2    8-5
St. Lawrence    1-1    3-8
Vassar             1-1    5-6
Clarkson           1-2    9-3
Bard                1-3    4-7
RIT                 0-3    4-8

magicman


In Liberty League action on Saturday January 12th

Bard 60 St. Lawrence 75
 
Hobart 74  Ithaca 80

Vassar 67 Clarkson75   

RPI 72 Union 90

Rochester Tech 60 Skidmore 83


In League action on Tuesday Jan. 15th:


Jan. 15

St. Lawrence 67 Clarkson 65

RPI 86 Vassar 72


Standings Through games of 1-15:

Hobart               3-0
Union                4-1
St. Lawrence      3-1
Skidmore           3-2
RPI                   3-2
Clarkson            2-3
Vassar              1-3
Bard                 1-4
RIT                   0-4   



7express

At the Skidmore Vassar game tonight Vassar leads 35-25 at halftime.  Not sure how the Skidmore men are this year because I only came because I know someone on the women's team, but Vassar could be a tough out this season.  4 of the starting 5 tonight for Vassar were underclasmen, and some of them look like pretty good players.  Vassar not doing well against the Skidmore press otherwise they'd be up by more then 9, but playing good defense.

7express

Skidmore comes back and wins 64-59, but really impressed with Vassar.  Nobody in the LL better overlook them, because if they do that team is in for a long night.

magicman

Liberty League action on Friday night:

Union 63   Bard 58

Hobart 65   St. Lawrence 57

Rochester Tech 55    Clarkson 65

Skidmore 64    Vassar  59

magicman

Liberty League action on Saturday afternoon:

Union 85  Vassar 74

Clarkson 53 Hobart 52      The Golden Knights survive a last second shot by Hobart's Stefan Thompson and hang on to give the Statesmen their first loss in league play.

St. Lawrence 68  RIT 53

Skidmore 65  Bard 48


The League standings through 1-19:

1.   Union              6-1
2.   Hobart            4-1
3.   Skidmore        5-2
4.   St. Lawrence   4-2
5.   RPI                 3-2
6.   Clarkson         4-3
7.   Vassar            1-5
8.   Bard               1-6
9.   RIT                 0-6

magicman

The top two teams squared off last night and Hobart proved to be the dominant team as they defeated host Union 82-70 and bump the Dutchmen out of first place. Hobart improves to 5-1 in the league (9-6 overall) while Union falls to 5-2 in league play (14-3 overall).

Four teams are now tied in the loss column with 2 losses, Union, Skidmore, SLU, and RPI, but weekend matchups involving all 4 contenders could find several teams sliding back in the pack. A 2-0 weekend or 0-2 weekend could make or break the season at this juncture.

Hobart should improve their hold on 1st place this weekend when they host 2 of the lower tier teams as Bard, then Vassar makes the trip over to Geneva.

Union will host St. Lawrence Friday and then travel to Skidmore on Saturday for some 2nd place showdowns.

RPI defeated Bard last night 80-56. The Red Hawks are now 4-2 in conference play and 9-6 overall. A big game on tap for RPI this Friday as they travel to Saratoga to take on the 6-2 Skidmore Thoroughbreds at 8 PM. Another important matchup on Saturday afternoon as they host St. Lawrence at 4 PM.

Skidmore improves to 6-2 in LL play (12-5 overall) as they defeat visiting Clarkson 65-58 Tuesday night. The Golden Knights fall to 4-4 (12-5) The Thoroughbreds move into a 2nd place tie with Union, but do hold the tiebreaker over the Dutchmen. Skidmore will host RPI on Friday and Union  on Saturday.

Clarkson is now in danger of missing the playoffs as they fall into sole possession of 6th place and 2 games down in the loss column to the 4 teams directly above them. They have also lost to those four teams so they don't win any tiebreakers either. They are now off until January 29th when they visit North Country rival St. Lawrence.