MBB: Liberty League

d3d3d3 · February 01, 2020, 10:05:41 AM

Can't find the video anywhere, but the Ithaca story said a Hobart rebound was tipped out toward the foul line, and Lescoe caught it and shot it in the same motion, and was fouled with 0.8 left.

hopefan · February 01, 2020, 10:24:21 AM

Quote from: d3d3d3 on February 01, 2020, 10:05:41 AM
Can't find the video anywhere, but the Ithaca story said a Hobart rebound was tipped out toward the foul line, and Lescoe caught it and shot it in the same motion, and was fouled with 0.8 left.

That's exactly why I hoped to see video... the recap didn't match what was written here....

Bartman · February 01, 2020, 02:54:09 PM

Quote from: hopefan on February 01, 2020, 10:24:21 AM
Quote from: d3d3d3 on February 01, 2020, 10:05:41 AM
Can't find the video anywhere, but the Ithaca story said a Hobart rebound was tipped out toward the foul line, and Lescoe caught it and shot it in the same motion, and was fouled with 0.8 left.

That's exactly why I hoped to see video... the recap didn't match what was written here....

Saw the game live and it was a great game. Tucker Lescoe caught the rebound in the middle of about 4 or 5 players grabbing for the rebound, he quickly took a shot and was fouled. It was legit with time remaining whether a second or .8 . Ithaca played a great game but they lost fair and square when Lescoe nailed his 2 foul shots. Everyone will get another shot at tournament time. Hobart dominated the boards but lost the TO stat by 10 as IC only had 4 TOs all game. A fantastic D3 game.

stlawus · February 01, 2020, 05:51:09 PM

Just when I think SLU starts playing better they go -30 on the boards against Vassar who get more offensive rebounds than SLU's total rebounds. Year after year this team gets completely outclassed by Vassar no matter the quality of each other's team.

Bartman · February 01, 2020, 05:59:26 PM

Hobart gets 2 wins this weekend , but 25 turnovers against RIT as Dan Messina is out.....Hobart can dominate the boards but turnovers will kill them. RPI stays undefeated with another strong win against Union,,,,RPI keeps 2 game lead on the field.

UfanBill · February 02, 2020, 02:08:43 PM

Great Basketball...RPI again proves it's Top Dog in the Liberty League by beating a game Union squad 85-79. The Engineers shot lights out 33/56, 58.9%...8/14 from 3 while Union countered shooting 29/58, 14/28 in a game that had 12 lead changes. I think a rematch is destined in the LL tournament where it will be tough for RPI to beat a team 3 times in a season.

Bartman · February 05, 2020, 08:20:10 AM

RPI getting points in Top 25 poll(should be in Top 25) and Hobart gets a voter as well. If RPI finishes first , and Hobart wins tournament we could get 2 teams in NCAAs, of course Ithaca and Union have the skills to disrupt this outcome. Fun to watch the last 3 weeks and tournament unfold.

Pat Coleman · February 05, 2020, 11:15:09 AM

Should RPI be in the Top 25? Maybe, but which win is the one that stands out and makes it obvious?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 05, 2020, 11:21:31 AM

I had 37 teams in consideration for my Top 25 ballot this week. RPI was definitely among them. I think their record is comparable to a team like Pomona-Pitzer that I dropped from my ballot this week - both clearly strong teams that have done well with the schedule they have, but lacking a real signature win to vault them above others. Continuing to run the conference slate will certainly keep them in the hunt all the way to March, though.

thebear · February 05, 2020, 12:23:57 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2020, 11:15:09 AM
Should RPI be in the Top 25? Maybe, but which win is the one that stands out and makes it obvious?

The Engineers have won 17 in a row, after dropping two games in a season opening tournament to #112 Rutgers-Newark and #140 at Westfield State.

The Liberty League is down this year, They have 6 teams [of 10] ranked in the 300's and 400's by Massey. They are ranked 26 out of 43 autobid conferences - I doubt they will get two bids even with an upset of the top seed in the conference tournament.

RPI's two quality wins are at Hobart [Massey 38] and at Ithaca [Massey 66].

As noted elsewhere on these boards, their non-conference schedule isn't loaded with teams in the top 100. Their non-conference opponents have a record of 77-63, and an average Massey of 235. RPI is centrally located and within reasonable distance of a large number of quality non-conference opponents in both the Northeast and Atlantic regions.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 05, 2020, 01:24:17 PM

RPI's NCAA SOS is currently a .498. That may continue to slide downward as they continue conference action, though there is a chance it holds steady. Their non-conf SOS is .518 (unofficially on these numbers).

I am not sure the Liberty League is guaranteed two bids on the premise that RPI is upset. RPI isn't exactly going to have any Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents - maybe one if they are lucky in the East Region rankings.

Their criteria is going to be borderline. Last year La Roche and Centre had similar numbers and didn't make the tournament.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 05, 2020, 01:42:41 PM

Hobart is in a better Pool C position than is RPI, but it would still be very questionable.

hopefan · February 05, 2020, 01:50:27 PM

This RPI alum fully understands... I shudder each year I see RPI's schedule... remembering when we played Williams, Middlebury, Rochester, Plattsburgh, Brandeis, MIT seemingly every year, as well as Colgate and Cornell, and of course the Capital District Tourney vs Union, Siena, and Albany State..And in my senior year, gasp, a trip to DC to play Georgetown!!! These games exposed us to so much, are my memories of playing college basketball, that today's RPI teams miss with the watered down schedule drawn up for them.

hopefan · February 07, 2020, 03:48:16 PM

Ithaca at RPI postponed... nasty weather in upstate NY... I remember those days... Glad I'm retired in Florida!!!

stlawus · February 07, 2020, 08:57:31 PM

SLU played a good first half but got stymied by Hobart's defense in the 2nd half. Hobart shot well in the 2nd half as well. Again, if SLU doesn't have the injuries they have they might actually compete for the whole game. Well played by Hobart.

The Statesmen bench needs to cool it though, their antics are going to cost them if they keep that up the rest of the season, especially if they get an at large bid and take that show on the road.