MBB: Liberty League

[radiomike]

One of the things that bothers me about this fired thread, is the "I heard" is the proof. Well, we were all told there were WMD's in Iraq. Interesting, no one found them and look what happened? Yes, I know that is a stretch, but why make such a claim, just because a coach is not on the sidelines for a game? And credentials of "playing college ball on the east coast for four years" does not make one Hoopsville's version of Deep Throat. If there was traction to the story, the press would have sniffed it out by now, especially the Finger Lakes Times. The D&C is a bit slower on the uptake unless it is inside Monroe County or is Syracuse. Also, you would have seen an official announcement from the college appointing an interim head coach and announcing a search.

I think it is one thing to speculate on who gets into the NCAAs and who does not, or who is a better team that night. It is entirely another to start spreading rumors about someone's career, whether a coach or student.

[gobombers15]

Ithaca College's head coach, Jim Mullins, was not on the sidelines for either of Ithaca's games this past weekend. Assistant Gregg Hepler coached the Bombers to their first two victories of the season with victories over SLU and Potsdam after the team started the season with five consecutive losses. Was Hepler the new coach for the Bombers?

No, Mullins was just out of town at a funeral. My point, this is D3(like Pat and others have noted) and in-season firings rarely happen. Family committments, funerals, etc., are honored by coaches more often at this level than they are in Division 1.

Until there is something in writing, I'd refrain from making any assumptions or leaps of faith without substantiation.

[ucaafan]

was wandering around the MAC site in the Mid-Atlantic region and a lot of talk going on about teams like Scranton either looking to join the Liberty League or form a new league with a contingent of current LL teams. Schools mentioned included Union, Hamilton, Hobart.  Anyone hear anything on this topic?

[Pat Coleman]

Just a note: Messages from people who post and then delete their username will be deleted.

[radiomike]

Just a note: Messages from people who post and then delete their username will be deleted.

You mean If Frank or I have to join the witness protection program, we will have our posts expunged? Oh, the inhumanity!

[radiomike]

was wandering around the MAC site in the Mid-Atlantic region and a lot of talk going on about teams like Scranton either looking to join the Liberty League or form a new league with a contingent of current LL teams. Schools mentioned included Union, Hamilton, Hobart.  Anyone hear anything on this topic?

There is a lot of talk about conference shake ups, after the defections going on in Pennsylvania. In Football, the Liberty League loses associate member Coast Guard this year. It picks up Susquehanna in 2007. That has been talked about already on this board. However, due to the nature of Liberty League schools, there are overlapping league affiliations, even multi-divisions. Rochester plays Football and other sports in the Liberty League, but hoops and soccer in the UAA. Hamilton plays Football in the NESCAC. Some schools don't even have football: Clarkson, Vassar, Skidmore. Hockey isall over the place. Hamilton plays in the Nescac, Skidmore in the ECAC east, Clarkson, RPI, Union and St. Lawrence are DI, Hobart in the ECAC west. Rochester does not have a hockey team. There was talk of Scranton's hockey team joing ECAC West , which may still happen. Currently, they are playing "club" level hockey, while still keeping their NCAA status.
I am not in the loop when it comes to discussions of forming new conferences, but I highly doubt you would see HWS jumping ship to cross the border south too often, and the report mentioned Ithaca in the same conference? I have a feeling that won't happen either. Alfred, Ithaca, and Hartwick are probably a better fit together.

[Pat Coleman]

Just a note: Messages from people who post and then delete their username will be deleted.

You mean If Frank or I have to join the witness protection program, we will have our posts expunged? Oh, the inhumanity!

Nah, there was a guy who came in, dropped one post, then deleted his name. Those are who I'm talking about. Long-term posters who are identifiable are not a problem.

[shooters]

Hope you're not talking about me neither, I'm just being quiet over here reading posts.

[woot]

anyone know why 5 hamilton players from the same high school  in Virginia did not play at there game on january 4?

[ucaafan]

Nothing would surprise me where Coach Anderson is involved. By the way, any news on why Roche is out as coach at Hobart? Thought he was Liberty League coach of the year last year. And a graduate of Hobart as well.   

[shooters]

I think everyone who jumped on me when i said that the Hobart coach had been fired owes me an apology. Now as far as Hamilton and the situation there I don't know what is going on. Those five players are Murphy recruits so its anyone's guess. They will need them back against Utica on Tues I can tell you that. Ya that Anderson has only lead them to an 8-0 start, best in six years, and named coach of the month, but yes I'm sure he's still one of the worst coaches in the leauge, cracks me up.

[fpc85]

Shooter I didn't jump on you because I knew you were right.

[shooters]

I appreciate it fpc, and isn't the point of these postings to be able to state things that are not to the public yet? If we are only going to say things that come out in the paper, why read the posts? I guess different strokes for different folks. Its much like the Hamilton situation, I don't know what is going on but I'd like to be able to read it here first rather than wait for the papers to get on it. Now who has knowledge of what is going on there? They will be ok as long as Nick Jones and Welchons are playing. The Hamilton team goes deep w/ the new recruits, but don't get me wrong TK is a stud so hopefully it was a one game deal and everything will be fine.

[woot]

i have come up with 4 possible scenarios regarding the Hamilton situation where 4 players including tk and giorgi were held out of the game on jan 4:
1) recruiting violation
2) high school falsifying records (all same high schgool)
3) some kind of international student violation (all international students)
4) death or sickness of someone at their high school of whom with they were close to
--->too much of a coincidence taht they all broke sort of rule or got introuble
What does everyone think?

[Pat Coleman]

I think everyone who jumped on me when i said that the Hobart coach had been fired owes me an apology.

Congrats on being right. However, you need to earn credibility around here. If I had a buck for every time someone came on with their first post and threw out a wild rumor, I'd be able to quit my day job and do this site full-time.