MBB: Liberty League

[UCAAHoops21]

So how does everyone thik the league will shape up now that conference play is getting started?  After Union and Hamilton, what teams are capable of winning the league or doing well?

[thebear]

St. lawrence is young, but freshman are contributing already.  They've played a very tough schedule and have been in most games. 

Clarkson has some talent, played Oswego very tough the other night.  They are big, and very deep.  Had some health problems early in the season, if all their players are available, they will be a problem for some teams, especially those catching them on Saturday afternoon in Potsdam, after a tough contest at SLU the night before.

[woot]

w/o tk, giorgi, and ray ray, hamilton will be at best 3rd place. if that.

[shooters]

Ok from what i've heard the issues aren't w/ tk and giorgi but with ray and some kid that hasn't even suited up before. I guess TK and Giorgi have been told not to play by someone outside the team as to prove a point. To me it makes no sense, especially playing DIII ball, but then again this is not fact just the only thing i've heard so far. I think the Liberty League is down this year so Hamilton will still have a good shot at the title. I think Union will be strong as well as Hobart (players somehow can come out w/ more fire after a coach is let go). Should be an interesting year.
anyone see the Utica v. Hamilton game last nite?

[radiomike]

I think everyone who jumped on me when i said that the Hobart coach had been fired owes me an apology.

I think you missed the point. You could not verify the source and you have still not been correct in your statement. The coach resigned from his position. This is the official record and statement, from the school and the coach. So, unless you have something else in writing, no one will be offering anything up to the rumor mill.

[shooters]

Ok Roche didn't coach another game after i made my statement, and if you truly believe that Roche resigned mid season a year after being coach of the year and from the school he graduated from then you truly are missing the point. Please, don't be one of those guys who believes that Stan Van Gundy really didn't want to coach a NBA champion caliber team this year and Pat Riley just stepped in after Stan "resigned."

Now for more information on the league I just heard that TK and Giorgi will be back w/ the Hamilton squad starting tomorrow but because i can't verify my source don't take me seriously but then again check your box scores after Tuesday's game and see if i'm right.

[radiomike]

Ok Roche didn't coach another game after i made my statement, and if you truly believe that Roche resigned mid season a year after being coach of the year and from the school he graduated from then you truly are missing the point. Please, don't be one of those guys who believes that Stan Van Gundy really didn't want to coach a NBA champion caliber team this year and Pat Riley just stepped in after Stan "resigned."

I guess if Tony Dungy from the Colts "resigns" you will call it being fired too, even if he wants a change.

A coach takes a leave, and then resigns, and all you have to offer is your unsubstantiated, rumored, statement, with the only credentials to back it up, is that you have had "4 years of college ball on the east coast." Both Coach Roche and the Athletic department at Hobart confirmed the resignation. http://www.hws.edu/athletics/hobart/basketball/showrelease.asp?id=2926
Oh, and there is a big difference between the NBA and DIII, as far as I know. It is not likely a Coach is fired in-season at DIII ever. So, rather than getting egos elevated, how about being accurate, especially when it involves people and their families?

[shooters]

Trust me I am accurate but I don't want to get into some juvenile posting war w/ someone I don't know. If you don't think my statements are accurate then that is your business, people state all sorts of things on here i don't agree with or think are accurate but i don't call them out on it, i just read, give my opinion, and move on. I could give you step by step exactly what happened and why but then again w/o me stating that i'm the AD from Hobart no one would believe me. So going forward  I will tell you what is going on and you can read your newspapers and websites and argue w/ me all you want, it makes for good posts. I hope i am not offending others and if so please let me know and I will remove myself from these postings. Otherwise to each their own.

[radiomike]

Trust me I am accurate but I don't want to get into some juvenile posting war w/ someone I don't know. If you don't think my statements are accurate then that is your business, people state all sorts of things on here i don't agree with or think are accurate but i don't call them out on it, i just read, give my opinion, and move on. I could give you step by step exactly what happened and why but then again w/o me stating that i'm the AD from Hobart no one would believe me. So going forward  I will tell you what is going on and you can read your newspapers and websites and argue w/ me all you want, it makes for good posts. I hope i am not offending others and if so please let me know and I will remove myself from these postings. Otherwise to each their own.

The problem is that I don't know you from adam. And neither does Pat nor the DIII folks. Since you aren't the Hobart AD, and not a current player, and you have not divulged your source, it is just speculation. Not fact, not accurate. It is just OPINION, without supporting evidence. In fact, it is just hearsay and always will be. Just the facts, man. And the facts are that the coach resigned. I am moving on, but it is a shame that you want to tear down the reputation of a good coach by sticking with a story that has no traction, but is founded on rumors. If the coach was fired, it would have been reported as such, or even hinted at by the media. It wasn't. Hopefuelly the Statesmen can continue a fine LL season under the interim coach, after splitting this weekend, by beating Hamilton tonight.

[shooters]

Hamilton by double digits this evening and no that is not fact but rather a pretty good educated idea, considering they beat everyone by double digits (except Utica w/o two starters) Point taken radiomike i won't mention another word about Roche's firing.

[fpc85]

Trust me I am accurate but I don't want to get into some juvenile posting war w/ someone I don't know. If you don't think my statements are accurate then that is your business, people state all sorts of things on here i don't agree with or think are accurate but i don't call them out on it, i just read, give my opinion, and move on. I could give you step by step exactly what happened and why but then again w/o me stating that i'm the AD from Hobart no one would believe me. So going forward  I will tell you what is going on and you can read your newspapers and websites and argue w/ me all you want, it makes for good posts. I hope i am not offending others and if so please let me know and I will remove myself from these postings. Otherwise to each their own.

The problem is that I don't know you from adam. And neither does Pat nor the DIII folks. Since you aren't the Hobart AD, and not a current player, and you have not divulged your source, it is just speculation. Not fact, not accurate. It is just OPINION, without supporting evidence. In fact, it is just hearsay and always will be. Just the facts, man. And the facts are that the coach resigned. I am moving on, but it is a shame that you want to tear down the reputation of a good coach by sticking with a story that has no traction, but is founded on rumors. If the coach was fired, it would have been reported as such, or even hinted at by the media. It wasn't. Hopefuelly the Statesmen can continue a fine LL season under the interim coach, after splitting this weekend, by beating Hamilton tonight.

I know he "resigned" and I also know there is more to the story as I am sure you know Radiomike. I just hope that both Roche and Hobart can move on in a positive way.

[shooters]

Well put fbc, now if everyone wants me to admit i was wrong i will, Hobart BEAT Hamilton this evening when i in fact said Hamilton would win by double digits. I may have to re-evaluate the Hamilton squad as I cannot figure out what happened this evening. I guess if Welchons and TK go a combined 12-32 that might be part of the reason. Nice work Hobart on a quality win this evening, and good prediction radiomike. I am humbled.................

[casey]

Skidmore just beat Hobart 76-75.

[shooters]

Huge upset tonite by Skidmore!!! Hobart has to play Union tomorrow, I guess beating Hamilton took everything out of them. I can't believe Skidmore beat them, I need more info! I heard Hamilton beat Union, nice recovery from the Hobart loss!

[UCAAHoops21]

And SLU plays at RPI with both teams playing very well lately...should be an exciting conference.  Can RPI stay