MBB: Liberty League

Started by Pat Cummings, March 01, 2005, 07:38:14 PM

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DDirty22

Vassar is returning there top 4 scorers.

bucketsallday

vassar just picked up two new assistants .... one is a guy that coached at amherst the last two years, and the other coached at western ct for four years. dont know much else about them. the brewers will be thin up front, but are loaded with perimeter talent - maybe better than stl.

DDirty22

They have the future conference MVP in Avitabile up front, what else do they need?

thebigcat

Not only do they have avitiable, they also have brazell, and expect big things from Joey Davis.  Top 15 in scoring this year.

tbredshoops

Some news from Skidmore....Harry Zwick went down with a torn ACL during a pick up game this week...its a pretty devastating blow as the tbreds were looking for him to help carry the offensive load...on the upside...Richie "size" Toni returns to the court for his senior season...He might be the biggest surprise player in the league

bucketsallday

rich toni sucks, he only has a right hand. he wont be a difference maker for skidmore. they had a decent freshmann class last year, any recruits this year? what about other schools ... how are the incoming freshman looking? word is vassar brought in a 2 guard thats solid and will give some good minutes.

UCAAHoops21

Anyone have any news from the first week and a half of practice?  Who looks good?  anyone have any news on how teams are shaping up?  Alston is gone from Hamilton, anyone else missing from last season anywhere else?  SLU has to be the team to beat right now...right?

shooters

I heard Hamilton has a good recruiting class (weird). Apparently some big guy that is suppose to play right away, plus rumor has it Georgi isn't on the team anymore and that can only help them. Should be a good year in the Liberty League with no clear front runner.

met_fan

It will be interesting to see if Hamilton can do anything this year.  If they continue to fall behind the pace that Murphy set for so many years, it would be a shame (for Hamilton supporters, at least).

with age comes?

Saw Clarkson in a exhibition game against a Canadian team Algonquin.   Very sloppy in the beginning, wondered if either team was going to get to double digits by the end of the first half.  Algonquin took nine point lead early in the second half.  Had a really athletic big that played catch with himself on the boards but only shot 7 for 18.  Algonquin also had quick pt guard and one decent shooting guard.  Clarkson plays by committee with several( probably 10 players) getting 15-20 minutes each.  Canadians didn't have the depth so Clarkson came back to win. Elson Pickering could be a sleeper in the league.  If he worked really hard all the time he'd really be a load 6'7" 260 lbs.  Bigs had trouble keeping the canadian bigs off the boards.  Seemed like Clarkson had an unlimited supply of tough hard nosed guards that were interchangeable from 1-3. All Clarkson players did an excellent job down the stretch making their foul shots.  Probably 7for-8 in the last minute, to pull out a 7 point victory.  Don't think they'll have the horses to compete with Vassar or SLU.  Union will also be a tough match up for them.  Haven't seen Hobart or RPI, and we all know that Hamilton will be tough.  Anybody else out there that can give an update?

shooters

Ok, Murphy is gone.........do we have to go there again this year, and how about this and we can keep this post up for later reference, There are no Murphy players left at Hamilton, but lets take a look at the stats and Hamilton has had a better record SINCE Murphy's departure, those are the stats, and they do not lie.

d3bballfollower

Shooters- are you sure that Hamilton has had a better record the last 3 years under Anderson than under Murphy??

in Anderson's 3 years Hamilton has gone 15-11, 23-5, and 19-7...that is 57-23...a winning percentage of .757

in the last 5 years under Murphy Hamilton had records of 19-8, 18-9, 16-9, 23-6, and 19-8...a total of 95-40...a winning percentage of .704...and if we look at only the last 3 years under Murphy Hamilton was 58-23...just a shade higher than the 3 years under Anderson

the comparison of Anderson to Murphy is unfair...Anderson is still young and has a lot to prove, but unfortunately when you fire a guy who won over 600 games in 30+ years and has a career winning percentage of .697 that is going to happen

also we have to remember that outside of Nick Jones and a few transfers, the only "Anderson guy" ito play a major role on the team during the last 3 years is Harlee Wood...the guys who carried the team the last few years were Welchons, Peck and Ngobeni (in no particular order)

now we get to see what Anderson can really do now that Hamilton has more or less "officially" become his program since there aren't any lingering Murphy guys still around as you said...all Anderson's guys now...let's see what he can do...personally I think they'll finish 3rd or 4th in the league
"A true champion is someone bent over, drenched with sweat, at the point of exhaustion, when no one else is looking."

with age comes?

Anybody seen Vassar or SLU play yet?  How about Hobart, RPI or Union?  Skidmore has a new coach any news from there?  Wondered who looks good? Saw Clarkson but no one else yet..

shooters

Good stats, D3follower!

I think your stats state exactly my point which is the Hamilton program hasn't dropped off since Anderson took over, and for someone to say the program is falling behind the pace Murphy set isn't true at all, in fact it is in the exact shape Murphy left it in, according to the winning percentage. I also agree that lets see what he can do now, it is officially "his" program. I think they will be top three in the league but its gonna be a pretty good year for the Liberty League, a lot of good teams.

with age comes?

Clarkson takes Albany Pharm relatively easily.  Frosh Lasita shoots the 3 well scores 15 in 16 minutes.  Rest of team provides balanced scoring. Tough to believe Albany Pharm has 2 wins... not a strong team.  Clarkson faces an athletic Potsdam team in championship which beat Ithaca by going to the boards and tough pressure defense late in a close game.  Ithaca was missing all league player Bostic who is still with football team. Potsdam will be a stern test and probably a better indication as to where Clarkson is.