MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Gray Fox]

There are usually complaints on this board about SCIAC teams not travelling to other parts of the country.  Caltech just completed a three game trip to Texas.

At least they have the right idea. 8)

[scandihoovian]

Pavers/Whiner (it's gonna take me a while to get used to the new handle)

Have you seen the new CLU Sports website?  It's a nice upgrade.

www.clusports.com

The SCIAC page continually suffers from broken links on the front page.

[WestCoastWhiner]

Definite improvement at CLU Scandi.  Someone did good work there.  Maybe it is a sign of things to come.  With the new facility, maybe CLU will use the Mo' to bring in some better than SCIAC-level talent and make another tourney run.

Got the below from a Blog griping about Pac-10 leadership, or lack thereof.  Pretty harsh but justified.  Comparatively, the Pac-10 in football, like the SCIAC in every significant sport, particularly basketball, is a red-headed step child to the rest of the country.  I'll acknowledge that it is definitely justified by our non-conference DIII performance, particularly in the post-season.  But as a fan I find it difficult to accept mediocrity and being a bottom tier conference.   I don't believe anyone has ever raised an excuse that should be bought (lack of $; administrative & campus-wide athletic apathy; recruiting challenges; too much sun; regional isolation).   

SIDs, ADs, Administrators and others in the SCIAC who are in positions to influence SCIAC athletics, please substitute your name and title for Mr. Hansen.   


"Mr. Hansen represents:

A history of weak leadership;

Demonstrated nonfeasance;

A lack of accountability;

A feeble-minded and incompetent administrator;

A Commissioner who places his purely political and personal motives ahead of the best interests of the Conference; and

A prime example of one biding their time until retirement by esting on their laurels." 

[Old Fighting Scot]

Chapman vs. mud scripps tonite at redlands, both teams won convincingly yesterday, anyone have any idea how this one will go?

[bballfan2]

CMS will win by 9-14, in a well played game by both teams. The Difference will be CMS's pressure on the ball on D, and ball movement on offense.

[bballfan2]

Well it looks like I was wrong, Champan by 7. In my defense I don't have the whole story but CMS had a player quit at HALFTIME, unusual to say the least. Maybe some of those circumstances caused the L.

Either way PP looked solid against Hope, if they keep it up against La Serria and Biola, that would be a great stepping stone for them as they approach league play.

[dj_hyphen]

CMS had a player quit at HALFTIME, unusual to say the least.

  details?

[bballfan2]

Word around here is that Saunders, their center, was unhappy that he wasn't playing, and argued with the coach about it during the first half.  Some how that lead to him walking off the bench during the first half, changing clothes, and leaving mid game. I wish I had more percise details, or a tape of it.

Any redlands have any thoughts on their team now that they've started 1-6? Still think they should use that system or should they try a more conventional route?...Oh well, at least after their next game they should be 2-6.

[dj_hyphen]

hahaha that's hilarious that a CMS dude quit mid-game...that's a new one.  i've seen it happen mid-practice (...Cutch ), but never during a game.  Looks like he's no longer listed on their website...Saunders was the SCIAC Mark Madsen anyway...well, without the hustle.  and the dancing ability.


It's a bad sign for Redlands if they can't even get wins before the conference...these are the game they usually get by either beating up on weak opponents or surprising teams that aren't used to the system.  If they can't win now, SCIAC's gonna eat them up

[Old Fighting Scot]

Redlands....

the problem with redlands is not the system it is the lack of players able to play in the system.  I saw redlands against Chapman (i know believe CU may be one of the better D3 teams in America, definitely top 25) and they just didnt do anything to validate playing the system.  i havent seen the stats but they couldnt have shot more than 30 treys.  What?  the system only producing 30 treys..  If you are going to give up the layups you need to counter with the three ball, what gives.  The most glaring thing is that it looked like redlands only had two guys that had any business shooting the ball from 3.  you cant play the system w/o shooters....  thats like drinking coffe without a cup....  It aint the system that is making Redlands lose, its the lack of talent.  I have seen three different teams run "the system" and i have played against the original.....  It works if you have talent Redlands doesnt......

[Old Fighting Scot]

Chapman University....

I know this isnt the Independent board, but b/c of the proximity to the rest of the Sciac i believe it should be ok for me to talk about CU here.  Chapman is as good a D3 team as i have seen in my time around the division (going on 8 years).  The get production inside and out.  Have one of the best scorers in all of D3 (carney).  they have solid big men and all five positions rebound well.  the one concern of CU is that they are not ver deep at the guard spot.  they have had two injuries there and are one more away from potentially having a serious problem.  Wheatley is the backbone of the team, Carney can flat out take over games and brown can fill it up with the best of them.  CU will be a team to reckon with come mid february.  CU plays La Verne on Wednesday that seems to be another good test....

[Browneagle64]

Do any Oxy fans know what schools are coming to the Oxy classic on Jan 2. ?
Btw, Any players that have to play a game after New Years needs to be commended. I used to go to the Classic when I was at Oxy just to add some support, even though there would only be about 75 05 100 fans at the game. I hope that there will be more people at these games..   

[WestCoastWhiner]

BE, the Classic has Pomona, Amhert and Whitworth.  Should be some good games.  Just scored a ticket to the National Championship game (note West Coast haters and Midwest football whiners:  the Left Coast is in the process wrapping up a 3rd straight national championship ) so I look forward to being one of the 50 folks in attendance at the Rock for a game.  Those snowbird games with nobody in the crowd are fun games.   No real pressure, just who is going to step up and ball.  Amherst's talent should set them apart but it will be fun to see if Pomona or Oxy can keep it under 10 against a top 10 team.  

I hope that Oxy's, Pomona's and Pitzer's Presidents, ADs and heads of Admission come watch those games against Amherst.  Newhall & Kats may pull some rabits out of a hat, but everyone will see the tremendous talent gap.  It will be nice for the apathetic SCIAC leaders to see up close and in person that elite liberal arts institutions can have elite athletic programs.     

SCIAC looks weak this year and in disarray.  Should be Kats walking away.     


     

[Mr. Ypsi]

WCW,

Were you talking d1 fb (if so, don't underestimate Texas - that should be a shoot-out!), or (being a d3 bball board) did you decide to claim UWSP (which is several hundred miles closer to the Atlantic than the Pacific, despite being in the West Region)?

[WestCoastWhiner]

Mr. Y, although I can mistake a fact or two I would never miss something that bad.  Of course I am talking about the gridiron and the Might Trojans.  Not discounting Texas, which has a better shot than Oklahoma did last year.  First Wooden, then Showtime, then Shaq, then the Trojans.  Dynasties have a way of popping up on the West Coast.   Not likely to happen in the SCIAC in any sport but a guy can dream.  At least we have the option to piggy-back as a fan onto a D1 program through graduate school. 

War Time