MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[scandihoovian]

Nice win for the Tigers.  Solid seasons for both them and the Kingsmen.  Is it correct that they are co-champs with Oxy getting the #1 seed because it won both meetings?

So, if I remember correctly, Oxy and CLU both host on Friday night - with the championship game on Saturday at the highest remaining seed.  Should be a fun weekend!

[LogShow]

Congrats to Oxy for getting it done and finishing #1 in the conference standings.

[sciac_is_fun]

box score is up: CLU 70, PP 51

Looks like another big game for Owens (23 pts, 9-13 FG, 6 rebs), with Meier solid as usual (17 pts, 5-10 FG, 8 rebs, 3 assists).  Inniss and Acerboni combined to shoot 6-8 on 3s.  Congrats to the seniors on a well-played game on senior night.

I wasn't there, but it looks like CLU was pretty much in control throughout, shooting 52% for the game to PP's 39%.  PP gets another chance on Friday, as they do it all over again at CLU. 

Nice win for the Tigers.  Solid seasons for both them and the Kingsmen.  Is it correct that they are co-champs with Oxy getting the #1 seed because it won both meetings?

According to the box score, Cal Lu "earns share of the conference title with Occidental."

[Browneagle64]

Congrats to the Who on their big win last night against the Sagehens.

To answer your question scandii (and maybe Bob can explain this a bit better than i can), even though both "the who" and the tigers have identical records, the Tigers can outright claim the SCIAC crown because of 1 reason. Oxy beat the Who twice during the regular season.
It would be awesome to share the Crown with the Who for showing such great poise during a tough first start (hmmm...... having tons of pressure after what several student-athletes did during the offseason), however, since oxy beat them twice during the reg. season this helps Oxy advantage in claiming the SCIAC crown outright.

Is there any possibility of the Who getting into the Big dance? (not the conferance tourney) THat would indeed be awesome and great to see.

[TeeDub]

Let's start the conspiracy theory now:

Oxy throws the game to Cal Lu in the Conference Tourney final.  Cal Lu gets the automatic, Oxy gets the Pool C

[NWCer]

Congrats to the Who on their big win last night against the Sagehens.

To answer your question scandii (and maybe Bob can explain this a bit better than i can), even though both "the who" and the tigers have identical records, the Tigers can outright claim the SCIAC crown because of 1 reason. Oxy beat the Who twice during the regular season.
It would be awesome to share the Crown with the Who for showing such great poise during a tough first start (hmmm...... having tons of pressure after what several student-athletes did during the offseason), however, since oxy beat them twice during the reg. season this helps Oxy advantage in claiming the SCIAC crown outright.

Is there any possibility of the Who getting into the Big dance? (not the conferance tourney) THat would indeed be awesome and great to see.

What's up from the NWC,

Browneagle, Check out Cal Lu's site:  http://www.clusports.com/news/4434/, and then check out Oxy's http://www.oxy.edu/x6722.xml

You guys have fun debating this one.  Maybe the Commissioner, SID's, coaches, or AD's from each school can get on and talk this one out!

From past scenarios I've seen, Oxy and Cal Lu are co-champs, even though Oxy swept Cal Lu, they have the same record.  The sweep gives Oxy the number 1 seed.  In the past before you guys had a tournament and this would have happened, Oxy and Cal Lu would be co-champs but Oxy would get the AQ because of the head to head, yet they'll still be co-champs. Congrats to both, you guys have a real shot at getting two in, again.  Up here in the NWC it will be one again, and I'm predicting it will be Whitworth coming down in some way or fashion.

[scandihoovian]

From past scenarios I've seen, Oxy and Cal Lu are co-champs, even though Oxy swept Cal Lu, they have the same record.

If the soccer mommies from CLU want to be co-champs even though Oxy beat them twice then let them. They already had their postgame cookies and juice boxes. Anyway, after all, we're all winners! Now have fun out there!

Oxy owns the head to head and therefore clearly deserves the #1 seed.  But, from the cluttered front seat of my mini van, amidst the detritus of orange wedges and capri sun bags, it looks to me like CLU's 11-3 conference record makes them just as deserving a conference champion as Oxy.  Those of you who have followed the conference for a long time know that sweeping both CMS and PP in the same season is a rare feat, part of a very strong body of work by the Kingsmen over the course of conference play.  Oxy's a very good team, and they put themselves in the driver's seat with a big win against CLU last Wednesday.  If they wanted to be sole conference champs, however, they shouldn't have fallen asleep at the wheel against PP.

[DIIIghetto]

Hoov, good stuff.  CLU and Oxy are the co-champs.  Conference tournament is a thing of pure beauty.  Thanks to the SCIAC for finally waking up and giving us this.  Undoubtedly, we will send our BEST team to the Tournament. 

[DIIIghetto]

If it stopped now I would say the MVP goes to Whitman.  Heck of a player.  But if he disappears, it is close enough that things could change.  If CMS gloves him and CLU's bigs show that Oxy's, PP's and CMS's bigs are a step below, it could go to Meier.  Have to love the post season tourney. 

[sciac_is_fun]

Cal Lu and Oxy are both in the top 6 of the latest West Regional rankings, and have been mainstays there all year.  If they meet again in the SCIAC tourney championship, why aren't both of them in?

[Gray Fox]

Oxy as a team stood out  in assists.  CLU stood out in steals.

[OXY Oswald]

Oxy as a team stood out  in assists.  CLU stood out in steals.

Oxy's got some solid windex men out there too.  They've been shining glass all season. 

Coach Newhall also does a great job of keeping fresh legs on the court, something that will hopefully lead to a strong push into the tournament. 

[Pat Coleman]

And only one or two of those items is particularly relevant to sciac_is_fun's actual point.

1) Cal Lutheran beat UW-Stevens Point.
2) Cal Lutheran has a win against North Central, a common opponent of Wheaton.

Just so everyone remembers what actually counts are in-region games.

BTW, I'm in the Middle Atlantic. Trust me when I say that being second in the Middle Atlantic isn't saying much nationally these days.

[Mr. Ypsi]

BTW, I'm in the Middle Atlantic. Trust me when I say that being second in the Middle Atlantic isn't saying much nationally these days.

Let the pooh-poohing begin. Hey, CLU fans, I tried.

Here are the latest NCAA regional rankings for games through Feb. 24. Per Pat Coleman, note:

This is the final ranking we see. The NCAA prepares a final ranking through next Sunday's games to use in the selection and bracketing process; however, it does not release it to the public.

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West Region

1. UW-Whitewater 21-4 19-4 .492 .540
2. St. Thomas         21-4 19-3 .499 .522
3. Occidental         20-4 13-3 .531 .527
4. UW-Stevens Point 20-5 18-5 .575 .525
5. Buena Vista         20-5 16-3 .496 .528
6. Cal Lutheran 20-4 16-4 .498 .529
7. UW-Platteville 19-6 17-5 .526 .535
8. Loras         19-6 16-4 .518 .535

Numbers listed are overall record, regional record, opponents' winning percentage, and opponents' opponents' winning percentage.

OxyBob

OB, your point?

Win or lose, Oxy is almost surely in.  Lose, and Cal Lu is probably in, though their OWP is awfully 'iffy'.

The d3 selection criteria are what they are - why blame Pat?

[Mr. Ypsi]

PC in no way 'discounted it' (predictably, or not), he merely observed that (in terms of primary criteria, however impressive it may otherwise be) the win over Gettysburg does not exist in the eyes of the selection committee.  Is that a problem?