MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[TeeDub]

In my 4 years there, CMS and P-P always had alarmingly poor preseasons

Non-conference, not preseason. The season started November 15. These games count.

No, the summers are traditionally tough here...   

[OxyFan21]

Took a look at the program for the Lopata.  In 2010 it looks like Wash U, CMS, Franklin and Marshall and Tsinghua University (China) round out the field.

[oldchap]

CLU, Redlands, and Chapman @ the Lee Fulmer Tournament - Playing in this tournament last year was FUN! of course we were able to upset #15 Whitworth and with the tournament, but playing at Currier Gym is a GREAT atmosphere.  A possible semi-final matchup could be an early season rematch between CLU and Chapman. The winner of that side of the bracket should win the tournament. Chapman will have thier hands full with a talented UCSC team in the first round. Looks like an extremely competitive field with the winner having to probably get 3 quality wins.

Chapman manhandled UCSC, handing them a 30 point defeat. Santa Cruz led 2-1 at 17 min in the first half, it was 5-5 a minute later and then Chapman never looked back, 35-19 at the half and a final score of 74-44.

Tomorrow is going to be an interesting rematch against CLU. I'm not selling CLU short. Chapman barely pulled away towards the end of the game in the first match up. This should be a great game!

[OxyBob]

Oxy 93, La Sierra 76

Oxy had an easy time with La Sierra. In the first half, an 18-4 run gave the Tigers a 20-8 lead at 11:45, and a 13-4 stretch gave Oxy a 20-pt lead at 41-21 at 4:50. Oxy led 56-35 at the half. In the second half, LSU closed the gap to 8 at 61-53 at 12:25, but the Tigers scored the next 6 points and La Sierra didn't get closer than 10 after that. For Oxy, Deshun McCoy scored 26 and had 12 rebounds, Huston Conti had 22, and Jack Hanley had 20. For La Sierra, Miles Robbins scored 22, Laviel Pickett had 16, and Austin Doggette had 11.

Oxy is [EDIT] 4-1 and hosts Holy Names on Sunday at 3:00 p.m. La Sierra is 2-6 and is at Claremont on Saturday.

OxyBob

[DIIIghetto]

Oxy is developing (not sure where your 2nd loss comes from OB) and we need CLU to step up or I will jump on the Chapman for SCIAC bandwagon.  CMS & PP struggles now will hurt us in the SCIAC if they get it turned around.  From what I have seen, neither of them has a chance against a 1st or 2nd round game against the NWC.  Too early to see if CLU, Oxy or Whitter? could give them a run. 

[fhsutiger]

Oxy is developing (not sure where your 2nd loss comes from OB) and we need CLU to step up or I will jump on the Chapman for SCIAC bandwagon.  CMS & PP struggles now will hurt us in the SCIAC if they get it turned around.  From what I have seen, neither of them has a chance against a 1st or 2nd round game against the NWC.  Too early to see if CLU, Oxy or Whitter? could give them a run. 

Wow! I can't believe you are already throwing PP and CMS under the bus this early just because they lost against St. Olaf (CMS) and UCSC (PP). The last two years that we have had a SCIAC Championship, CMS and PP have played in both. To tell you the truth, I am actually glad you are overlooking them. They bring the most players back from last years teams, and probably bring back the most experience as well. Besides what Cal Lu is bring back this year, I don't see anyone deeper than CMS and PP. As for Oxy and Whittier, I see them both playing for the Fourth spot in the league. Oxy may contend, but I just haven't seen enough from them and it's still to early to put them in the top three. Sorry BOB!

I guess I just hope you continue to overlook the Stags (and it's hard for me to say this...but the hens as well), because it might come back to get you in the end. Scali has way to much experience coming back to let the Stags slip, be ready for them to start putting it together.

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens tonight (CLU vs. Chapman). My bet is Chapman gets beat, and everybody realizes that while Chapman is playing good right now, it is going to be an even field this year.

[Gregory Sager]

No talk in here about Pomona-Pitzer beating Whitworth in the Gateway City last night?

[Gray Fox]

No talk in here about Pomona-Pitzer beating Whitworth in the Gateway City last night?

Sounds good to me.  It will help the SCIAC SOS and may help shut up the Chapman guys. 

[dahlby]

Gray Fox:

Actually anytime that a SCIAC team can win a game against a quality in region opponent it will help the weak schedule CU team with its SOS. So we should all hope that SCIAC teams keep winning all their non-conference games. Cheers!

[oldchap]

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens tonight (CLU vs. Chapman). My bet is Chapman gets beat, and everybody realizes that while Chapman is playing good right now, it is going to be an even field this year.

I guess you lost your bet. Chapman beat CLU 52 to 45. CLU never led. And despite rallying late in the game from a 19 point deficit to bring it into single digit, Cal Lu never really challenged Chapman. I suspect that the Cal Lu guards generally shoot better than this, because I saw several uncontested 3 pointers reaming in and out, so in some ways, Chapman got a break. However, in the end it's clear that Chapman has the best team they've ever had in a long long time and unless they rest on their laurels now, they should have one of their best seasons and hopefully earn themselves a spot in the playoff.

Update on the Lee Fulmer Tournament:

Cal Lu was handed another hard defeat by the University of Redlands in the game for the third place by a score of 95 to 68. I wasn't at the game, but it looks like CLU continued to be cold from 3 pt range, connecting on only 2 of 15. Overall, they shot 21 of 55 (38%). The big surprise and maybe the revelation of this tournament is an excellent University of Redlands, which after a tough overtime loss in OT by only 3 points against an excellent George Fox, comes back to punish another excellent CLU team by more than 20 points. It looks like the SCIAC  Conference is wide open this year!!

[TeeDub]

I can't believe there isn't more chatter about the Redlands thumping of Cal Lu...

[oldchap]

I can't believe there isn't more chatter about the Redlands thumping of Cal Lu...

On a side note, during the George Fox vs. Redlands game, which GFU won in overtime, one of the players from Redlands took what appears to have been an intentional elbow to the temple from number 40 on the GFU team. The Redlands player appears to have gone unconscious from the direct hit and immediately fell to the floor with a loud thump. The game was stopped for nearly 30 minutes, the fire department was called in, and the player was whisked away still unconscious, on a stretcher with oxygen and IV. It was quite an impressive sight. Since the incident occured away from the play, none of the three refs ever saw what happened, so the game was allowed to continue as-is. Later on, officials reviewed a video of the game and ruled that it was an intentional elbow, therefore number 40 was suspended for the finals against Chapman.

Note that number 40 is a 6-7 250 lbs Junior post player and starter and also the second best scorer and top rebounder of the GFU team. Even though I believe they would have eventually prevailed in the end, to be fair Chapman would have had a much harder time and the result would have been a lot closer, had number 40 played in the Finals. (Chapman won that game 73-45).

I'm not sure which player got hurt in the Redlands team, but despite this very emotional and frightful injury to one of their players, they still managed to win against CLU by a wide margin. This speaks volume about their character. Good job Redlands!

[Sabretooth Tiger]

A player who throws an intentional elbow, away from play, that knocks out an opposing player, requiring the kind of medical attention you just described be permanently banned . . . at a minimum.

[OxyBob]

Oxy 73, Holy Names 65

Finally got a chance to see Oxy play today against Holy Names University, an NAIA-2 team out of Oakland which plays in the California Pacific Conference with Menlo, Mills, Pacific Union, and others. Oxy started a couple of freshmen: Eric Leider is a 5'9" point guard from Las Vegas. He's a good ball handler and has a nice pull-up jumper. Deshun McCoy is a 6'4" forward out of Westchester High in Los Angeles, and was a standout member of WHS's Div. I California state high school championship team. McCoy was recruited by UCLA, which so far looks like they could have used him. Huston Conti is back at the 2 spot for the Tigers after spending a year abroad in France. First team all-SCIAC center Sean Anderson and second team all-SCIAC forward Jack Hanley rounded out Oxy's starting lineup.

As for the game, Oxy got off to a quick start and led 11-4 at 14:40, but HNU came back and led 28-23 before Oxy closed with an 8-2 run and led 31-30 at the half. In the second half Oxy led 43-37 and then went on a 13-4 run to open it up 56-43 at 9:10. The Tigers had a comfortable 15-point lead at 66-51 at 4:15, but Holy Names didn't give up, and closed to 68-65 with 28 seconds left. Leider and Conti put the game away for Oxy at the FT line, and the Tigers won their 5th straight.

For Oxy, Huston Conti led all scorers with 23, including 5-for-8 on 3-balls, plus 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Eric Leider had 19 points and 4 assists, and had 4 clutch FTs in the last 30 seconds to preserve the win. Sean Anderson had 12 points and 9 rebounds, Jack Hanley scored 10, and Deshun McCoy had 9. For Holy Names, Joshua Smith had 18 points and 10 rebounds, Johnas Street scored 12 points and had 6 rebounds, and David Scott had 10 points and 8 rebounds. The Hawks outrebounded Oxy 45-36, but the Tigers shot 48% from the floor compared to only 34% for HNU.

Oxy is 5-1. The Tigers have a very difficult task next Saturday when they travel to play at Cal State Fullerton.

I can't believe there isn't more chatter about the Redlands thumping of Cal Lu...

I thought CLU would dominate this season, but so far the Kingsmen are only 1-3. As for Redlands, they are putting up a lot of points so far, averaging 91 ppg. Traveling Freak Show, Jr.?

OxyBob

[TeeDub]

I can't believe there isn't more chatter about the Redlands thumping of Cal Lu...

On a side note, during the George Fox vs. Redlands game, which UR won in overtime, one of the players from Redlands took what appears to have been an intentional elbow to the temple from number 40 on the GFU team. The Redlands player appears to have gone unconscious from the direct hit and immediately fell to the floor with a loud thump. The game was stopped for nearly 30 minutes, the fire department was called in, and the player was whisked away still unconscious, on a stretcher with oxygen and IV. It was quite an impressive sight. Since the incident occured away from the play, none of the three refs ever saw what happened, so the game was allowed to continue as-is. Later on, officials reviewed a video of the game and ruled that it was an intentional elbow, therefore number 40 was suspended for the finals against Chapman.

Note that number 40 is a 6-7 250 lbs Junior post player and starter and also the second best scorer and top rebounder of the GFU team. Even though I believe they would have eventually prevailed in the end, to be fair Chapman would have had a much harder time and the result would have been a lot closer, had number 40 played in the Finals. (Chapman won that game 73-45).

I'm not sure which player got hurt in the Redlands team, but despite this very emotional and frightful injury to one of their players, they still managed to win against CLU by a wide margin. This speaks volume about their character. Good job Redlands!

Fact checking:

1.  UR lost in overtime, thus the match up between G. Fox and Chapman
2.  G. Fox coach reviewed the video and suspended the player, not the officials.