MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[CrashDavisD3]

Chapman was named to the list of top universities in the nation by U.S. News & World Report and the Princeton Review, Chapman University enrolls more than 6,000 undergraduate, graduate and law student.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/orange-ca/chapman-university-1164

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/masters-west-uc-rank

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/compare/items+1131+1133+1164+1216+1342

[OxyBob]

Chapman was named to the list of top universities in the nation by U.S. News & World Report and the Princeton Review, Chapman University enrolls more than 6,000 undergraduate, graduate and law student.

To be accurate, according to U.S. News & World Report, Chapman ranked No. 9 among Master's Universities in the West:

Master's universities, such as Drake and Gonzaga, offer a full range of undergrad programs and some master's programs but few doctoral programs. These rankings are split into four regions: North, South, Midwest, and West.

This placed Chapman behind Redlands, which ranked No. 7 on the list (CLU is ranked No. 18). Redlands also ranked No. 7 on another USN&WR list: "A+ Options for B Students: Master's Universities West." By that standard I guess that makes Chapman a B+ option for C students.

OxyBob

[cmsme]

He may be mean, but he sure is funny.

Any insights into the CMS Concordia game? 
I looked at some of the Concordia players' profiles, and they were all planning to be professional basketball players after they graduated.
Does CMS have a chance?  ARe they healthy?

I saw Concordia is ranked #2 in the NAIA.  Is NAIA somewhere between Division 1 and Division 3?

[oldchap]

I saw Concordia is ranked #2 in the NAIA.  Is NAIA somewhere between Division 1 and Division 3?

NAIA Division I is as close as you can get to Division II basketball, although there are varying degrees of strenth. In Southern California, NAIA DI features the GSAC Conference, which is constituted mostly of private Colleges and Universities with a strong religious affiliation (Christian). The best teams in this Conference, typically Biola, Concordia, Fresno Pacific or Azusa Pacific could easily compete in NCAA DII or even in lower NCAA DI. The lower tier such as Hope International or San Diego Christian are just as good as the top tier of the DIII SCIAC teams.

In my opinion, CMS would have a real hard time to say the least against Concordia. So would most DIII teams, except maybe for teams ranked in the top 5 right now. If CMS wins, Concordia either played their bench or you guys are going undefeated in the SCIAC.

Look at it this way, it's great experience and Coach Scalmanini has it right in preparing the team by playing these guys. It's gutsy but I salute that. Last year, Chapman played an exhibition game against NCAA DI Sacramento State and it was a very memorable experience for the boys.

[David Collinge]

Is NAIA somewhere between Division 1 and Division 3?

There is a thread that tracks D3 performance against the NAIA schools as well as all other non-D3 schools, by classification.  You might want to visit it to get a sense of how we stack up against these other divisions. 
D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

And you could visit NAIA.org to get a sense of how NAIA differs from NCAA, conceptually.

[OxyBob]

Any insights into the CMS Concordia game? I looked at some of the Concordia players' profiles, and they were all planning to be professional basketball players after they graduated. Does CMS have a chance?  ARe they healthy?

I have followed the GSAC for over 30 years. It's an outstanding basketball conference. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that no SCIAC team has defeated Concordia, Biola, The Master's, or Azusa Pacific in the past 20 years and maybe longer. I believe the SCIAC has an overall winning record against Hope International, and SCIAC teams get an occasional win against Vanguard, Point Loma, Fresno Pacific, and Westmont.

It would be a fantastic win for CMS is they defeated Concordia, but don't hold your breath.

Last year, Chapman played an exhibition game against NCAA DI Sacramento State and it was a very memorable experience for the boys.

One memorable game vs. Sacramento State = Five unmemorable games vs. La Sierra

OxyBob

[Gray Fox]

UCLA beat Concordia 62-61 in an exhibition game this year.

[oldchap]

One memorable game vs. Sacramento State = Five unmemorable games vs. La Sierra

OxyBob

Continue to hate all you want. That's OK. Chapman last year went 8-0 against the SCIAC, including a win against the Conference Champion CMS AT Claremont,  AND beat Vanguard AT Vanguard by a margin of 13 points. They certainly don't have anything to be ashamed of.

[OxyBob]

Chapman last year went 8-0 against the SCIAC

Last year's over. Rather than posting here, wouldn't your time be better spent trying to scrounge up a few games for Chapman?

Here, I think these guys are looking for D-III opponents:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6738.msg1149857#msg1149857

Call Joe Pasternack at (504) 280-7024.

You're welcome.

OxyBob

[stag44]

With Regard to the CMS-Concordia game:

In my 4 years, this was by far and away the toughest team we played. The biggest issue and thier biggest strength is their Defense. In both games we played against them, they took it from our lead guard (Jason Toney one year, and Austin Soldner the other) at least 4 times in the backcourt with just superior guard quickness and lateral ability. They are usually 8-10 deep playing suffocating man to man defense. IF you can withstand thier intial pressure, though, there are layups available everywhere. But, they speed you up and force SO many turnovers.

Oxybob, I know that CMS beat Concordia sometime in Bob Donlan's career. Its a story that I've heard from multiple people in the Stag family about. Apparently Donlan absolutely took over the game in the second half, scoring somewhere close to 30 points in the game and bring the stags back from over 10 down in the second half AT concordia for the win. Scali, always mentions that the next year they came into Ducey and whooped us by 40+.
http://www.cuieagles.com/f/Mens_Basketball_History%7CGame-By-Game_History/2001-02.php


I also know that in the 04-05 year we ended up only losing to Concordia by 3 or 4. That game, from what the players tell me, was all about Josh Zazulia. He was injured his entire career at CMS, but i guess displayed what made him all-state in CA during HS in that game.

I know that in a scrimmage this year vs Cal Poly Pomona (D2, National runner-ups last year), CMS lost by 5. It will be an absolutely MASSIVE upset for the Stags to pull this off. The game plan will be simple though: dont lose the ball and control tempo. If they can keep the game in the 60s, they have a chance.

This was always an extremely difficult game because Exams week just finishes, so there are limited practices and preparation for this game, and to be quite honest you're just mentally drained from the week.

As for the Stags health, it will probably be a gametime decision. I do have to say though, Shane Davis has more than held his own in place of J-tone. I couldnt be happier for a guy like Shane- always came to play everyday in practice and trained extremely hard in the offseason, and now its paying off. Losing Bagby moved Faught into the starting lineup, and provided minutes for Beau Heidrich as well as Alex Smith and Bryant Oberg, all filling in extremely well.

I look for a good game between the two, and another big time game from Blees. The STAGS HAVE to be patient and get to the Rim agains the Eagles. If they can build foul count, slow the game with stops in action, and stay under 18 TOs, it should remain competitive.

Looks like the SCIAC will be a one-bid conference this year, and the winter break is when the contenders REALLY get better!

[OxyBob]

Oxybob, I know that CMS beat Concordia sometime in Bob Donlan's career. Its a story that I've heard from multiple people in the Stag family about. Apparently Donlan absolutely took over the game in the second half, scoring somewhere close to 30 points in the game and bring the stags back from over 10 down in the second half AT concordia for the win. Scali, always mentions that the next year they came into Ducey and whooped us by 40+.

I stand corrected. CMS has had some success against Concordia:

08-09  Concordia 95 CMS 74
06-07  Concordia 77 CMS 56
04-05  Concordia 80 CMS 74
02-03  Concordia 97 CMS 49
01-02  CMS 90 Concordia 85
00-01  Concordia 66 CMS 63
99-00  CMS 76 Concordia 68
98-99  CMS 78 Concordia 63
97-98  Concordia 64 CMS 53
96-97  Concordia 87 CMS 67

Good luck to the Stags against the Eagles in the Temple of Doom this Saturday.

OxyBob

[OxyBob]

Eyewitness report from Pasadena:

North Park 75 Caltech 41 Final

Good game for the first 14 minutes. It was tied 19-19 but North Park scored 13 straight to lead 32-19, and it was 35-25 at the break. The Vikings led 44-30 at 17:40, and then went on a 16-2 run over the next 7 minutes and it was 60-32 and game over. North Park ended the game with a 13-2 spurt to make the final 75-41.

For CIT, Ryan Elmquist scored 16 and Mike Edwards had 10. For North Park, Shaun Collins had 14, Emmanuel Crosby had 12 points and 10 rebounds, Nick Williams scored 13, and Nick Hoekstra had 10.

Caltech is 0-6 and plays Pacific at Cal Lutheran this Saturday at 1:00 p.m. North Park is 5-4 and plays at Whittier on Saturday at 8:00 p.m.

OxyBob

[Sabretooth Tiger]

And Oxy plays Div. I SMU on Saturday at 2:00 p.m. in Rush Gym . . . come one, come all.

Here is the preview:

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2009-10/news/121609mbb_SMU_Preview

[OxyBob]

And Oxy plays Div. I SMU on Saturday at 2:00 p.m. in Rush Gym . . . come one, come all.

Thanks for the heads up:

It gets no easier for Oxy next week, as SMU, coached by former UNC standout Matt Doherty, will be in Rush Gymnasium on Dec. 19 at 2:00 p.m.

I saw SMU play their first game of the season.  It has been a few years since I've been to one of their games.  They are bigger and stronger than what I remember, but at least they won't be the threat with the three point shots that CSUF was.

SMU has Myles Luttman, a 6'11" junior transfer from San Diego City College, Tomasz Kwiatkowski, a 7'1" junior from Poland, Papa Dia, a 6'9" junior from Senegal, Mouhammad Faye, a 6'9" senior from Senegal by way of Georgia Tech, and Robert Nyakundi, a 6'8" redshirt sophomore from Arlington, to go along with a couple of 6'4" and 6'5" guards. It'll be a challenge for Oxy, to say the least.

OxyBob

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Like the purpose of that post was to fill you in . . . 

Merely a reminder to those who don't have the Oxy hoops schedule indelibly ingrained.  You seem awfully cranky lately . . . more so than normal . . . must be that law practice thing?