MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[dahlby]

Stag44,

With a strong early season schedule like thay have, CMS should be more that ready for SCIAC action. APU and Concordia, my, my, my......tough!

[Gray Fox]

CLU has posted.

  http://www.clusports.com/mens_basketball/schedule/

[dahlby]

Based on the schedules that I have seen so far, CMS will have the toughest schedule in the area for early season contests. Hats off to the Stags for scheduling the way they did.

[stag44]

Based on the schedules that I have seen so far, CMS will have the toughest schedule in the area for early season contests. Hats off to the Stags for scheduling the way they did.

Fully agree - I think it was a conscious effort by the coaching staff to expose them to serious talent through the preseason.

As we have seen in the past, SOS matters alot when coming to regional rankings and a possible home bid. Granted you have to win to even make SOS a factor, but I think that the Stags give themselves a GREAT chance to host this year if they can come out of the non-conference with 1 or 2 D3 losses. The games to APU and Concordia to start are just going to be brutal. Hopefully we'll be able to catch them still trying to get their stride, but given that NAIAs start practice well before NCAA, the Stags could be the one showing the lack of cohesiveness at the outset.

I'm very excited that they scheduled Whitworth as well. That should be a wonderful game!

[Pat Coleman]

Based on the schedules that I have seen so far, CMS will have the toughest schedule in the area for early season contests. Hats off to the Stags for scheduling the way they did.

Fully agree - I think it was a conscious effort by the coaching staff to expose them to serious talent through the preseason.

That's nice and all but scrimmages can only go so far. It's the non-conference season that will really have that kind of effect.

[dahlby]

Pat,

Call those early season games what you want, but good teams develop quickly when playing against other tough teams. And Stag44's comment regarding SOS is well taken. I will take CMS's early season schedule any day, over playing weak teams, especially when you consider the SOS of the SCIAC as a conference. No doubt they will be ready for conference action after these games.

Hats off to their coach for his scheduling ability. I for one look forward to the early season rematch against Chapman.

[Gregory Sager]

Based on the schedules that I have seen so far, CMS will have the toughest schedule in the area for early season contests. Hats off to the Stags for scheduling the way they did.

Fully agree - I think it was a conscious effort by the coaching staff to expose them to serious talent through the preseason.

Regular season, not preseason.

Pedantry never takes a summer vacation.

[dahlby]

Gregory,

Are you the Pedant for the board?

I thought of you when I last posted, in fact I came up with early season contests because I didn't want the lecture that you just gave Stag44.

My 1997 Webster's Dictionary defines a Pedant as, among other things, " a formal uninspired teacher".

I know that doesn't apply to you.

[cmsme]

That's nice and all but scrimmages can only go so far. It's the non-conference season that will really have that kind of effect.


Hello.  On the CMS schedule, which games are scrimmages and which are non-conference?  What is the difference? 

Is the Loopata Classic worth flying out to see?

[dahlby]

Lopata (Note spelling) web site lists:
CMS @ 21-7 last year
Franklin and Marshall @ 25-7 last year
Washington University @29-2 last year
Tsinghua University (The only school I found  by this name was in China)

Sure looks like an interesting field to me. Washington U is always tough.

Book flights early to save$.

[Pat Coleman]

That's nice and all but scrimmages can only go so far. It's the non-conference season that will really have that kind of effect.


Hello.  On the CMS schedule, which games are scrimmages and which are non-conference?  What is the difference? 

I was making the annual point that "preseason" is not the proper terms for games that take place before the conference schedule.

The only preseason games are scrimmages and exhibitions. Everything else is part of the season, for they all count in the standings.

[Gregory Sager]

Gregory,

Are you the Pedant for the board?

I thought of you when I last posted, in fact I came up with early season contests because I didn't want the lecture that you just gave Stag44.

My 1997 Webster's Dictionary defines a Pedant as, among other things, " a formal uninspired teacher".

I know that doesn't apply to you.

Just indulging in a little self-deprecating humor. The point that Pat made in the previous post is one that I'm notorious for making in various rooms.

"Early-season contests" is certainly a legitimate way to describe those games, although "non-conference games" is the usual catch-all, inasmuch as the vast majority of non-conference games for teams that are members of conferences are played in November and December, while the vast majority of conference games are played in January and February. Of course, since Chapman is an independent, "early-season games" and "late-season games" are as good a description of the November/December and January/February groupings as any.

[stag44]

Based on the schedules that I have seen so far, CMS will have the toughest schedule in the area for early season contests. Hats off to the Stags for scheduling the way they did.

Fully agree - I think it was a conscious effort by the coaching staff to expose them to serious talent through the preseason.

Regular season, not preseason.

Pedantry never takes a summer vacation.

My apologies.. I always make the same mistake time and again. While at CMS we always referred to the non-conference and preseason interchangibly. The reason for this was that the SCIAC was/is primarily a one bid team, and prior to the conference tourney, it really just came down to who had the best record in the 14 SCIAC conference games. I think that was the mentality of some coaches in the SCIAC, who would schedule the NAIA's to prepare the players for the SCIAC, as opposed to getting D3 teams.

I will do my best to refer to them as Non-conference! They will have a tough preseason as well if things are as they were with scrimmages against NAIAs and possibly D2s.

That's nice and all but scrimmages can only go so far. It's the non-conference season that will really have that kind of effect.


Hello.  On the CMS schedule, which games are scrimmages and which are non-conference?  What is the difference? 

Is the Loopata Classic worth flying out to see?

I fully think that the Lopata is a worthwhile weekend tournament to see. As a player, there was a bit of a shock and awe factor going into the Wash U Fieldhouse, which is an awesome facility. Also the games are high quality and with 3 tournament teams from 2010, as well as a very highly rated school from China, its a fun event.

Can't say enough good things about the Lopata and their hospitality!

[OxyBob]

My apologies.. I always make the same mistake time and again.

And everyone always knows exactly what you mean when you say preseason, time and again. Mistakes are in the eye of the persnickety.

OxyBob

[dahlby]

Gregory,

When I look at Chapman's schedule, I tally the games as those that "count" and those that "don't count". In a sense, Chapman's conference games are all of those that "count". I also look at the games that "count against them" even if they win.

Stag44,

I am sure that having attended CMS, you had studies much deeper than how to classify an "early season" contest. Don't sweat the small stuff.
Keep indulging in the academic offerings that you learned while attending an institution of higher learning such as CMS.