MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OxyBob]

jealous

One lousy playoff appearance in school history. Worst schedule in D-III. Adrift, alone, unwanted.

Joke.

OxyBob

[Hoopsallthetime]

CMS is always tough and tonight was no different. They are tough minded, aggressive, never give up and their defense is really hard to break. They played as good as they could possibly have and frankly the game could have gone either way. Conversely, I have seen the Panthers play much better this season, even against arguably better teams (Azusa Pacific comes to mind, despite the fact that they lost that game) but this could also be due in part to CMS's excellent defense.

Claremont got in foul trouble from the start of the game and finished with three players fouling out. Too much aggressivity, sometimes not well channeled, leading to not-so-smart fouls. That's what did it. That and shooting 44% from the charity stripe. Griffin Ramme also had one of his best games tonight.

Some may argue that it would have been a different game with Blees and Pinson in the Stags lineup. At this point, we can speculate all we want. The fact is, others in the CMS team stepped up big time. I can think of number 22 Patrick Lacey who was a real leader on the court and was really tough to guard tonight. So it's anybody's guess as to whether CMS would have won under different circumstances. At least, it's not obvious to me but of course CMS fans may see it differently.

The refs made bad calls both ways. The alleged controversial call they made at the end of the game didn't change much and that's assuming it was controversial. One could argue that Lin got flattened under the basket trying to rebound the ball. Had it not been called, it may have given CMS the chance to go into overtime, in the best of circumstances.

I briefly spoke with coach Scali at the end of the game and he praised this Chapman team, arguing that it is as good if not better than last year's. Some players like Brandon Lin have really stepped up this year and are making a huge difference.

I was at the game last night, and I am going to be the first to say that Chapman deserves to be a top 25 team. While I was not overly happy with the officiating at times, I believe Chapman has some great players that could take them deep into the tournment. Offensively, they do way to much one on one, which I believe keeps teams in the game.I also see several weakneses, especially on the defensive end that if they can correct, will make them an even deeper team later in the year. As for there dominance over the SCIAC, good for them.  (Who cares) You will always be that other team near Anaheim that plays mediocre teams. The SCIAC is down this year after losing a lot of great players last year, so you should be beating up on us! Let's see how Chapman does next year without Riley and Co. Players come and go...so let's see how you do next year! I wish we could have seen how the game would have been played out if the Stags were playing with a full deck of cards (blees and remy).

I do think that the game could have gone in CMS favor if one particular official was consistent throughout the game. The last 3 minutes of the game should have been decided by the players on the floor and not by the ego of a particular official making bale out calls to rescue bad shots by Chapman! The game was physical throughout the entire game, so you can't start making bale out calls when it get's down to crunch time. Let the kids decide who is going to win or lose, not the whistle!
Give it to Chapman for making there free throws as well. CMS was just UGLY from the charity stripe, and because of that deserved to lose. They played hard like Oldchap said above, but just couldn't finish like good teams should. Having Remy out of the lineup didn't help things either! Good luck to Chapman this year, and represent our area with pride...if anything a win against the Northwest!!!!

[oldchap]

Well, Oxybob. Here we are again. Finally you show up in your usual sour puss form.

I agree with everything you say:

One time appearance in the play off, true. But hundreds of D3 schools would be happy to make that claim.

Weak Strength of Schedule as usual, true. But Chapman is 11-1 today, has a perfect record against the SCIAC and all the D3 schools they played and would have wipped Oxy's butt, had they played them this year, with one hand tied behind their back.

Got killed by Whitworth in the playoffs last year, true. But it's Chapman who made the trip up North, not Oxy or CMS (Coach Scali was so sure he would beat Chapman in the first round, he had already booked the hotel in Spokane). And this year, Chapman has something to prove. They want to avenge last year's loss.

Fact of the matter is, Chapman has made the Top 25 two years in a row, has been to the round of 32 in the playoff last year and has a near perfect record against all SCIAC teams three years running. Except for injury or a serious accident, they will make the playoffs again this year. They aren't anywhere near the top 10 best teams in D3, I'll give you that, but there are more than 400 teams out there and Chapman is perfectly content to be the best D3 team in California and within the top 5% in D3, something that no team in the SCIAC has done for several years now. The other 95% (which includes your beloved Tigers) would be delighted to make that claim.

And you forget the people aspect too. Ramme and Riley are the hardest working student athletes I know, and some of the most intelligent too. They are proud of what they have accomplished and both will go down in Chapman's basketball history with flying colors. They will for sure be missed next year.

Joke's on you, Oxybob. Your sarcasms aren't gonna take down their spirit.

[CrashDavisD3]

Thanks Old Chap for making an excellent point...

[CrashDavisD3]

jealous

One lousy playoff appearance in school history. Worst schedule in D-III. Adrift, alone, unwanted.

Joke.

OxyBob

Unlike OxyBob views of Chapman, I wish all SCIAC teams success in 2011. I even would love to see Oxy win the SCIAC in 2011 and it would be nice for them to face Chapman in the playoffs if Chapman gets a bid. I really look forward for Chapman getting voted in the SCIAC in April 2011 so Chapman gets a opportunity to play all SCIAC teams in all sports in the future.

Oxy is a great school with great traditions with great student - athletes and very nice campus. I also love OxyBob's passion that he has.

[Hoopsallthetime]

jealous

One lousy playoff appearance in school history. Worst schedule in D-III. Adrift, alone, unwanted.

Joke.

OxyBob

Unlike OxyBob views of Chapman, I wish all SCIAC teams success in 2011. I even would love to see Oxy win the SCIAC in 2011 and it would be nice for them to face Chapman in the playoffs if Chapman gets a bid. I really look forward for Chapman getting voted in the SCIAC in April 2011 so Chapman gets a opportunity to play all SCIAC teams in all sports in the future.

Oxy is a great school with great traditions with great student - athletes and very nice campus. I also love OxyBob's passion that he has.

Wow..I almost feel the love on the last post! I think you and OXYBOB should hug it out and swap old stories together. Bob are you up for sitting around a fire next to your best friends from Chapman and explaining to them why they WON'T be invited into the SCIAC next year! I think that would be a great new years party! Who's with me?

[elfinley]

Hey, I'm a Chapman alum, and a big supporter of CU athletics. But lets face it: Chapman WILL NOT get into the SCIAC EVER!

Chapman has applied since the move to D3 and the SCIAC have been denied, there is no reason to think they would change their minds now.

Chapman would need 6 of the 8 teams to vote them in and I have heard from friends within the conference the CMS, OXY, and Pomona will vote no, and there maybe another school on the fence. Why? That is a question for those schools to answer... Hopefully in the future when the question of scheduling comes up, they are directed to the schools that would not let Chapman be apart of the SCIAC. It would be nice to hear legitmate reasons as to why CU in the SCIAC would be bad rather than hateful banter.

As for the game Wednesday night, it was a fun game to watch as both teams battled from the tip. CMSStag is correct, there was a referee that was awful for both teams and made some really bad calls throughout the night. There is still the issue of 2 points that Chapman may have been screwed out of that is still in question. Regardless, it was a great game and i would be shocked if CMS didn't win the SCIAC this year. Clearly they are an odds on favorite.

People, let's be good to each other on here. There may be conference(SCIAC) with a team on the outside looking in(Chapman), but we are all socal D3 basketball and anyone's success out here is good for all of us. Your opinions are yours and that is cool, but lets all go on other sections of these boards and defend and support what we all obviously love: Southern California Division 3 Basketball

[Gray Fox]

Chapman would need 6 of the 8 teams to vote them in and I have heard from friends within the conference the CMS, OXY, and Pomona will vote no, and there maybe another school on the fence. Why?

CalTech will approve them?

[Gromek]

OLD  chap

You took a cheap shot at Claremont,  the Chapman, Claremont game played at Chapmen was played on
March 4 2010.  The next scheduled NCAA game was to played at Whitworth on March 6.   Not to have plane
and room reservations planned ahead would be thoughtless.   Think before taking cheap shots. 

[oldchap]

OLD  chap

You took a cheap shot at Claremont,  the Chapman, Claremont game played at Chapmen was played on
March 4 2010.  The next scheduled NCAA game was to played at Whitworth on March 6.   Not to have plane
and room reservations planned ahead would be thoughtless.   Think before taking cheap shots. 

You are right and I apologize. I got carried away in my excitement to defend the colors of my school. Besides, I have nothing but the utmost respect for coach Scalmanini who knows how to motivate his players and always seems to make the absolute best of what he has to work with. His record speaks for itself. And off the court, he is a true gentleman.

In the spirit of peace and good humor, I would like to wish all of my friends in the SCIAC, including Oxybob (what would I do without you, come basketball season...) and the Chapman family a Happy New Year! May 2011 bring to you and your family good health, happiness and prosperity.

Cheers!!

[Gray Fox]

Oxy basketball drew 14,200 fans yesterday at San Diego State. 

Hint to UCLA:  You will need a team with a good draw when you open the remodeled Pauley Pavilion in the 2012-2013 season.

[Gromek]

Old chap

Thanks for the classy reply.  Best to you and your team this new year.

[Ralph Turner]

I realize how hard it is for Chapman to fill its schedule as an independent, but Pool B is looking very good for Chapman in every sport in which it competes.  The rest of the competition from Pool B is average to weak, for the most part.  (I think that Chapman may knock out Maryville for a Pool B in men's basketball.)

The only sports where Pool B might be a challenge for Chapman might be baseball, M&W soccer and men's and women's golf.  If Chapman can go undefeated in football (when they get that good), then they will compete for the Pool B bid in that sport.

[cmsme]

Does anyone know if the CMS vs Wisconsin Lutheran game will have live stats, or anything?

[cmsme]

ps--my prediction for today's game is that CMS will win.  And they will win the next 5 games (agt least).  I think they took a big hit when Chris Blees got hurt, and they have forgotten what it feels like to win.  They just need to get on a roll.