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Gromek

OxyBob  nice job on the vidio/broadcast  of the Claremont game.    The name of the Claremont player you were thinking of was Patrick Lacy.

cmsme

I enjoyed the Oxy - CMS game and the commentary. I don't even mind paying the money but am hoping there is some way to download and save this game.
Oxy Bob--you said there was a difficult matchup between Pomona and Whittier. Who is that? And does CMS have the same advantage in that matchup against Whittier?
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dahlby

#4622
If Cal Lu and Redlands were to tie for the fourth playoff spot, what is the criteria for determing who goes to the playoffs? I think Redlands has the tie- breaker over Oxy. Just curious. Although Redlands should hand CIT handily.

DIIIFan15

If Pomona-Pitzer AND Whittier both have the same SCIAC record (either both win or lose Tuesday),
AND Cal Lutheran defeats Occidental,
AND Caltech defeats Redlands, THEN
#1 CMS, #2 P-P, #3 WC, #4 CLU

Explanation of tiebreaker if "crazy" scenario unfolds in reality:
Redlands 7-7 AND Cal Lutheran 7-7; (OXY is out at 6-8 since in this scenario they would lose to CLU)
UR and CLU split the head-to-head meetings (first tiebreaker)
Both went 0-2 vs. CMS (second tiebreaker)
CLU went 1-1 vs. P-P, UR went 0-2 vs P-P (third tiebreaker)

Side note: Pomona-Pitzer has to be the #2 seed for this to happen. If Whittier is the #2 seed, Redlands has the tiebreaker since the Bulldogs have a win over the Poets this season and the Kingsmen do not.

dahlby


OxyBob

Quote from: Gromek on February 19, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
OxyBob  nice job on the vidio/broadcast  of the Claremont game.    The name of the Claremont player you were thinking of was Patrick Lacy.

Yes, Patrick Lacey. It's sometimes difficult for me to remember all of the players who used 7 or 8 years of "eligibility" at Claremont. After the game I asked Coach Scali if he planned to being back Craig Borengasser and BJ Jameson.

Quote from: cmsme on February 19, 2012, 12:58:29 AM
I enjoyed the Oxy - CMS game and the commentary. I don't even mind paying the money but am hoping there is some way to download and save this game.

You paid to listen to me? You were robbed.

Quote from: BBallJunkie81 on February 16, 2012, 01:08:36 PM
Oxy fighting for their lives...can they pull off the huge upset?  Played well against Pomona; if McCoy, Hanley, Montoya, Liebowitz play well, they can beat anybody in this league.  CMS could be caught looking ahead towards their 6th street rivals on Tuesday.

The Tigers were game and hung in there. Claremont came out flat but once they got going they were just too deep and too talented for Oxy. In the second half Oxy trimmed CMS's lead from 13 to 5 with 1:20 left, but Claremont prevailed 55-47.

No. 1 seed Claremont (23-1, 12-1 SCIAC) will play No. 4 seed Redlands (12-12, 7-6) in the SCIAC tournament. (Any speculation about UR losing at home to Caltech is nonsense.)

Pomona (14-9, 9-4) pounded Whittier (17-7, 9-4), 79-58, serving notice on the Poets and the Stags that Coach Kat & Co. will not be pushovers in the conference tournament. Pomona has a lot to play for this Tuesday against CMS in the Temple of Doom with the No. 2 seed in the SCIAC tournament at stake. Whittier has a home game against La Verne.

Cal Lutheran (10-13, 6-7) and Oxy (10-13, 6-7) wrap up their seasons Tuesday night.

OxyBob

stag44

#4626
Congrats to Coach Scali and CMS for winning 4 straight SCIAC regular season championships. Been quite a magical run for the Stags. Here's to making some noise on the national scene now!!

Also interesting time to look at my All-SCIAC picks:

MVP - Chris Blees

1st Team
Van Klaveran - CLU
Menez - Whittier
Gaffney - CMS
Maciera - CMS
Easterman - Whittier

2nd Team
Woodland - ULV
Colston - UR
Cohen - PP
Hanley - Oxy
Preer - Whittier


Exciting week for the SCIAC with some seeding to be sorted out between PP and Whittier. Will be interesting to see how things shake out with Tuesday as well. Does Scali go full bore vs PP or give some of his main guys a bit more rest as they hope to be playing 3 games during the week? Does PP really care where they end up playing Whittier, given their 2 thorough beatings of the Poets. Redlands will probably give their starters some rest as they prepare go to CMS in the first round game.



Gray Fox

Quote from: stag44 on February 20, 2012, 08:45:57 AM
Congrats to Coach Scali and CMS for winning 4 straight SCIAC regular season championships. Been quite a magical run for the Stags. Here's to making some noise on the national scene now!!

Also interesting time to look at All-SCIAC picks:

MVP - Chris Blees

1st Team
Van Klaveran - CLU
Menez - Whittier
Gaffney - CMS
Maciera - CMS
Easterman - Whittier

2nd Team
Woodland - ULV
Colston - UR
Cohen - PP
Hanley - Oxy
Preer - Whittier

The picks are not out yet.  Please don't make us think these are official. >:(
Fierce When Roused

stag44

Quote from: Gray Fox on February 20, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
The picks are not out yet.  Please don't make us think these are official. >:(

apologies - just my thoughts on what they would be!

DIIIFan15

I'm hard pressed to think that Pomona-Pitzer would only get one second team All-SCIAC selection after finishing either second or third in the regular season standings. Klukas and Cohen have similar numbers but Klukas has started every SCIAC game while Cohen has come off the bench in all. I could see Klukas first team and Cohen second, or even flipped depending on Coach Kat's take.

stag44

Final game today in SCIAC regular season play:

PP @ CMS
Should be a fun atmosphere at Ducey tonight for this game. While on the surface it looks like nothing besides a rivalry game and Senior night for the Stags, there is alot of other underlying effects of this game. Most importantly, a win here will strengthen their opportunity for an at-large bid, while a loss could in fact cripple any chances they have for an at-large. Based on what all the rankings are saying and my gut feeling, the Stags only way at an at large would be to finish 25-2, losing in the SCIAC championship game. In any case, they want to have momentum going into the playoffs and be ready to face Redlands off a win.

For PP, this game has alot more impact. Win, and they host Whittier in the SCIAC semis, lose they no longer control their fate. Given the beatdown they just put on Whittier at home, the would be more than happy to play them again at Raines in under a week. This will also give them some confidence if the 2 end up meeting in the SCIAC championship.

This is eerily similar to 2009/2010 when the Stags hosted PP on senior night with nothing to really play for. They were not in contention for an at-large bid, and realistically just had to get themselves ready to host the SCIAC tourney. In that game, PP came into Ducey and beat the Stags by 14.

I expect Blees to remind his team of this game, and that in the larger scheme of things, each win is extremely important on a national level. Also if they are able to win out and get to 26-1, they possibly put themselves in a situation to host a NCAA game. They would need some help with a Whitworth loss as well. In any case finishing the season at 26-1 provides them the best chance at hosting a game or possibly venturing elsewhere away from Spokane.

Either way, this will be an fun game to watch and will be tightly contested. After the instant classic they had a month ago, I'm sure this will not disappoint. PP is coming off their most convincing win over Whittier, while CMS knocked off Oxy.

I like Blees, Maciera and Anderson to lead their team on their Senior Night and finish atop the record books with the 02 and 06 Stags as Scali's 13-1 teams.

CMS wins 63-57

ULV @ Whittier
Whittier needs this game to still have a shot at hosting their SCIAC semi game with PP. They lose and they go back to Raines where they lost by 20+ a week ago. They win and PP loses, they host.

ULV has really disappointed this year. With all the talent they had to finish only above Caltech is a shame. I'm not sure how they will come out and play with this being their last game. I expect some spirited efforts from Woodland and Napolitano, but Whittier should be playing with a real purpose.

Whittier wins and gets to host PP, 88-76

Caltech @ Redlands
This is a great matchup for Redlands. They should get to rest some of their main guys for CMS on Friday, and as long as they take care of business, they will be in as the 4 seed in the SCIAC tourney.

If Caltech pulls of the upset like the did in the last SCIAC game last year, then a CLU win, and PP 2seed will knock them out. I put the probability of all these occurring at around .001%.

Redlands will win this game easily, hopefully rest their main guys and look to take down CMS on Friday night.

Redlands wins 73-51

CLU @ Oxy
Both teams have playing immensely better in the 2nd half of conference, but Oxy is completely out and CLU has to have each game work out in their favor to sneak in.

In a coin toss, I have Oxy winning this game at home in a physical low scoring affair 55-51

Given these results, Friday's matchups will look like this:
Redlands (#4 seed) @ CMS (#1 seed)
PP (#3 seed) @ Whittier (#2 seed)

oldchap

Are the Chapman players eligible for any of the All-SCIAC teams? If no, then are they still eligible as Independent? If no, this would leave them in limbo this year. I'm just curious.I really don't know what the rules are.

dahlby

Although eligible for SCIAC Athlete of the Week, they are not considered for any All-SCIAC teams. Next year they will be.

OxyBob

Quote from: stag44 on February 21, 2012, 10:55:50 AM
I put the probability of all these occurring at around .001%.

Good odds. Redlands beat Caltech by 33 in Braun. Look for Jack Colston to go off big in his last game in Currier.

Pomona has a lot more to lose than Claremont. Playing Whittier in Rains is a lot better than playing the Poets in the GAC. I'll take the Sagehens to beat CMS.

OxyBob

BBallJunkie81

It has been a fun season.  Regular season finales tonight:

PP @ CMS

Best game of the night.  After a relatively weak second half of league play, PP made a statement against Whittier Saturday night.  CMS would love to rest some of its starters but I don't think they want to lose to a potential championship game opponent.  Also, as pointed out by Stag44, CMS puts an at-large bid at risk with a loss to PP and another loss in the playoffs.  The first time these clubs met, it went down to the wire with Pinson scoring on a buzzer beater (0.5 seconds).  For PP to have a chance, they will have to shoot well but CMS will make it tough as they will get out on shooters: Gaffaney on Cohen and Blees on Klukas.  The difference could be the improving play of Okpalugo.  Okpalugo, if playing with confidence, has the strength and size to pose problems in the key.  If PP develops a paint presence, watch out!   I am going to go with the upset.

PP 72 CMS 65


ULV @ Whittier

Whittier would much rather play PP in Whittier.  The only way that happens is if PP loses and Whittier wins.  In addition, Whittier is just too strong.... I will be surprised if this is close.

Whittier 94  ULV 71


CLU @ Oxy

Both of these clubs are playing much better at the end than the beginning of the season.  Both could upset anybody south of CMS.  CLU still has a prayer, but highly unlikely.  This will be a hard fought game, but I believe a bit too much Oxy at the end.

Oxy 64  CLU 57


Caltech @ UR

UR wins easily and earns the 4th seed.

UR 79  Caltech 49