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[Hugenerd]

OxyBob, I know this is your domain, but if you dont mind me pointing out something:  Did anyone see the boxscore for Caltech - Lawrence from a couple of nights ago?

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/mbkb/2008-09/stats/lu-cit.htm

I saw the most ridiculous scoring line for a single player ever.

20 Jon Mays............   11-11   0-0    0-0    1  0  1   3  22  1  0  0  1   4

Some how Jon Mays was able to go 11 for 11 from the field (scoring 22 points) and pick up 3 fouls in only 4 minutes of pt.  That is 5.5 points per minute.  He was on pace to score 220 points for the game, by himself.  That is insane.  I dont know how that is even physically possible, he only had 1 steal. His PER has to be through the roof.

[Mr. Ypsi]

OxyBob, I know this is your domain, but if you dont mind me pointing out something:  Did anyone see the boxscore for Caltech - Lawrence from a couple of nights ago?

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/mbkb/2008-09/stats/lu-cit.htm

I saw the most ridiculous scoring line for a single player ever.

20 Jon Mays............   11-11   0-0    0-0    1  0  1   3  22  1  0  0  1   4

Some how Jon Mays was able to go 11 for 11 for the field (scoring 22 points) and pick up 3 fouls in only 4 minutes of pt.  That is 5.5 points per minute.  He was on pace to score 220 points for the game, by himself.  That is insane.  I dont know how that is even physically possible, he only had 1 steal. His PER has to be through the roof.

That is a amazing, IF TRUE.  But (shock ) errors on score sheets are not unknown.

Not sure that even Vinnie (The Microwave) Johnson ever scored 22 points in 4 minutes.

[OxyBob]

Some how Jon Mays was able to go 11 for 11 for the field (scoring 22 points) and pick up 3 fouls in only 4 minutes of pt.  That is 5.5 points per minute. 

I wasn't at the game, and I have to admit that I didn't notice that he was credited with 22 points in only 4 minutes of playing time. Hard to believe that he made 11 baskets in 4 minutes. I'll see if I can find out what really happened.

Meanwhile...

Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Cal Lutheran 85, Lawrence 65

CLU: Andy Meier 28 pts (10-for-14 FGs, 8-for-10 FTs) and 12 rebs, Aaron Fisher 13 pts and 8 rebs, Greg Grimm 13, Kyle Knudsen 12, Aaron Van Klaveren 8 pts and 11 rebs
LU: Ryan Kroeger 23, John Dekker 10

Halftime: LU 37-32
Rebounds: CLU 40-27
Records: Cal Lutheran 5-1, Lawrence 6-3

In the first half, the game was tied 29-all at 4:05. Lawrence scored the next 8 to lead 37-29, but CLU got a FT by Andy Meier and a buzzer-beating layup by Greg Grimm and trailed 37-32 at halftime.

The Kingsmen scored the first 14 points of the second half, during which Lawrence head coach Joel DePagter was T'd up for taking issue with a call. After Ryan Kroeger made a couple of FTs for Lawrence, CLU scored 7 in a row and led 53-39 at 13:20. Back came Lawrence with a 12-0 run, capped by a 5-point play: John Dekker hit a 3-ball as Eric Strangis fouled Chris Page underneath the basket. Page made both FTs, and the Vikings only trailed 53-51. That was as close as Lawrence would get. Cal Lutheran went on a 13-1 run, during which DePagter got his second T and was ejected, and CLU led 66-52. Lawrence got no closer than 12 the rest of the way.

Andy Meier played another outstanding all-around game with 28 points and 12 rebounds. Aaron Van Klaveren is a beast. Aaron Fisher showed no ill effects from his knee injury sustained against Carthage. Nice win for the Kingsmen. Maybe they'll get a few votes in this week's Top 25, though I won't hold my breath.

Cal Lutheran is home to NAIA-2 Fisher College at 2:00 p.m. on Sunday.

OxyBob

[OxyBob]

Tonight's games:

La Verne (3-5) @ Cal State LA (3-4)
Claremont (7-1) @ Concordia (8-1)

The Leopards are up against D-II CSULA, while the Stags have a real tough assignment in Irvine against Concordia, which is ranked No. 4 in the latest NAIA Division I Top 25 Poll.

OxyBob

[scandihoovian]

The Kingsmen scored the first 14 points of the second half, during which Lawrence head coach Joel DePagter was T'd up for taking issue with a call. After Ryan Kroeger made a couple of FTs for Lawrence, CLU scored 7 in a row and led 53-39 at 13:20. Back came Lawrence with a 12-0 run, capped by a 5-point play: John Dekker hit a 3-ball as Eric Strangis fouled Chris Page underneath the basket. Page made both FTs, and the Vikings only trailed 53-51. That was as close as Lawrence would get. Cal Lutheran went on a 13-1 run, during which DePagter got his second T and was ejected, and CLU led 66-52. Lawrence got no closer than 12 the rest of the way.

Andy Meier played another outstanding all-around game with 28 points and 12 rebounds. Aaron Van Klaveren is a beast. Aaron Fisher showed no ill effects from his knee injury sustained against Carthage. Nice win for the Kingsmen. Maybe they'll get a few votes in this week's Top 25, though I won't hold my breath.

The Kingsmen played well last night, but like Bob, I am skeptical about their chances of earning top 25 votes.  After all, why should we expect a team that's loaded with Juniors and Seniors, and coming off a 22-3 season, to beat a lowly SCIAC team that returns only three players (Meier, Knudsen, & Fisher) who played significant minutes last year. 

After all, Lawrence surely took an airplane to get out here, and by the time the second half started it was 10:15 PM in Wisconsin.  That's awfully late to be playing basketball...

[OxyBob]

After all, Lawrence surely took an airplane to get out here, and by the time the second half started it was 10:15 PM in Wisconsin.  That's awfully late to be playing basketball...

Not to mention that the Vikings were probably still all worn out from playing Caltech two nights earlier.

OxyBob

[Gray Fox]

Justin Goltz, Oxy's outstanding QB and SCIAC Player of the Year, has joined the roster. The Tigers can use his muscle up front.
OxyBob

I hope this doesn't hurt his chance at an Arena Football League career.

[Hugenerd]

OxyBob, I know this is your domain, but if you dont mind me pointing out something:  Did anyone see the boxscore for Caltech - Lawrence from a couple of nights ago?

http://www.gocaltech.com/sports/mbkb/2008-09/stats/lu-cit.htm

I saw the most ridiculous scoring line for a single player ever.

20 Jon Mays............   11-11   0-0    0-0    1  0  1   3  22  1  0  0  1   4

Some how Jon Mays was able to go 11 for 11 from the field (scoring 22 points) and pick up 3 fouls in only 4 minutes of pt.  That is 5.5 points per minute.  He was on pace to score 220 points for the game, by himself.  That is insane.  I dont know how that is even physically possible, he only had 1 steal. His PER has to be through the roof.

From what I hear the boxscores from the last few games have been incorrect.

[OxyBob]

Last night's scores:

Concordia 95, Claremont 74

CMS: Austin Soldner and Jason Toney 20 pts each, Chris Blees 12
CUI: Cameron Gliddon 20, Phil Friesen 13, Eric Beal 12, Chris Minardo 11

Halftime: CUI 42-25
Rebounds: CUI 35-23
Records: Claremont 7-2, Concordia 9-1

Concordia, ranked No. 4 in NAIA-1, was too much for the Stags. After Jason Toney's layup brought CMS within 2 at 20-18, CUI went on a 16-1 run and led 36-19. The Eagles blew the game open in the first 4 minutes of the second half with a 21-8 run. For Claremont, Austin Soldner had 20 pts, 5 rebs, 4 assists and 3 steals; and Jason Toney scored 20 and had 2 assists and 6 steals. CMS is off until Dec. 30 when they host another GSAC team, Point Loma Nazarene.

Cal State LA 77, La Verne 66

ULV: Kyle Luhnow 15, Pierre Baker 14, Matt Heyd 11
CSULA: Chris Fields and Chris Mark 17 pts each, Dwayne Jones 15, Artis Gant 13

Halftime: CSULA 33-23
Rebounds: CSULA 40-29
Records: La Verne 3-6, CSULA 4-4

CSULA built a comfortable double-digit second half lead and beat La Verne. For the Leopards, Kyle Luhnow had 15 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assists and 3 steals. La Verne will host Tufts on Jan. 2 and UC Santa Cruz on Jan. 3 in the SCIAC Classic Tournament, which also features Cal Lutheran.

Speaking of Cal Lutheran, the Kingsmen are at home this afternoon at 2:00 p.m. against NAIA-2 Fisher College, which also plays at Oxy tomorrow at 3:00 p.m.

OxyBob

[OxyBob]

Speaking of Cal Lutheran, the Kingsmen are at home this afternoon at 2:00 p.m. against NAIA-2 Fisher College, which also plays at Oxy tomorrow at 3:00 p.m.

Cal Lutheran 63, Fisher 54

CLU: Andy Meier 20 pts and 15 rebs, Kyle Knudsen 20
FC: Brandon Hamilton 12 pts and 10 rebs, Louis Williams 13

Halftime: Tied 35-35
Rebounds: FC 41-37
Records: Cal Lutheran 6-1, Fisher 6-8

Fisher led 44-42 with 12 minutes left, but the Kingsmen outscored the Falcons 18-4 and went on to notch their 6th win.

OxyBob

[Gray Fox]

Oxy 73  Fisher 70

Eyewitness report from Eagle Rock.  There is a good write up on the Oxy site, so I will just make a couple of comments.

Oxy is not near the team I saw in Mississippi two years ago.

How does a game get scheduled for 3pm on a Monday before Christmas?  But it allowed me to work it in around Christmas shopping.

Oxy lost their glue when Meier fouled out with five and a half minutes to go.  His fourth foul was quiet and the fifth was a surprise right after that.   Nobody seemed to know.  A couple of minutes later a Fisher player got his fifth and they had to interrupt a freethrow to take him out.

The technical on Fisher at 70 all was a backbreaker.  Oxy got three points from the freethrows and held on.

Goltz was a big help, but it is obvious he has spent his off seasons throwing footballs through swinging tires rather than shooting standing still foul shots.

There were only about fifty fans out in the rain.  Half of the SCIAC teams and Chapman had scouts there.

I looked for OxyBob and didn't see him in his reserved seat.  When I yelled out his name, I was met by a chorus of boos.

[OxyBob]

I looked for OxyBob and didn't see him in his reserved seat.  When I yelled out his name, I was met by a chorus of boos.

You'd think the Oxy head coach and AD would be a bit more discreet in public.

OxyBob

[Howlinwolf]

OB was there. He was doing his best Johnny Cash impression and wasn't visible against the backdrop of the new, black bleachers.

Speaking of new, there are a few fresh faces/contributors to the Oxy line-up compared to just a month ago. Goltz may lack a feather-like touch from the foul line but he's an inside force. Strong on the boards. Sam Kesten can drain the three. And another football expatriate, Jordan Washington, is a speedy addition to the backcourt.

The loss of seven seniors, including SCIAC Player of the Year,  and a few would-be returners translate to a rebuilding year in Eagle Rock. Rebasso, Betty, Whitman -- there are no longer any go-to forces in the current iteration of this squad, as has been custom. 

I encourage you to take in some SCIAC out-of-conference tussles over the next few weeks.  January 2 is a highlight - see how the SCIAC fares against NESCAC competition as P-P squares off against  # 7 Amherst and the Jumbos of Tufts tangle with the Leopards of LaVerne.  And Oxy tests its mettle against another MA standout, UMass/Dartmouth, which is ranked at #23. 

Have a happy hoops holiday!

[OxyBob]

The latest D3hoops Top 25 Poll is out for the week ending Dec. 21. Last week in the "Others Receiving Votes" category, Claremont had 38 points but lost the other night to Concordia, a top-notch NAIA-1 school, so the Stags dropped to only 10. Also this week Lawrence received 6 votes and Carthage received 3. Cal Lutheran, which is 6-1 and handily defeated both Lawrence and Carthage, doesn't appear in the poll.

What a joke.

OxyBob

[Pat Coleman]

Lawrence received 6 points in the new poll and Carthage received 3. Cal Lutheran, which is 6-1 and handily defeated both Lawrence and Carthage, doesn't appear in the poll.

What a joke.

OxyBob

I'm not going to lose sleep over Cal Lutheran if the SCIAC voter wasn't even impressed enough to include them.