MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OxyBob]

Eyewitness report from Eagle Rock:

SMU 77 Oxy 49 Final

D-I Southern Methodist made a stop in LA on their way to a tournament in Hawaii and took on Oxy in Rush Gymnasium. Never let it be said that Oxy didn't lead in the game, as the Tigers were up 6-2 at 14:40. SMU only led 17-14 at 7:55, but the Mustangs turned up their press and smothering defensive pressure and a 19-4 run made it 36-18 at 1:50, and Mike Walker's long 3-ball gave SMU a 43-22 halftime lead. Oxy played SMU even for the first 8-1/2 minutes of the second half and trailed 52-32, but the Tigers got stuck on 32 and 13 SMU points later it was 65-32. Huston Conti's 3-pointer finally broke the dry spell, and Oxy was able to outscore SMU 14-12 the rest of the way to make the final score 77-49.

For Oxy, Sean Anderson held his ground with SMU's big men, and led all scorers with 16 points plus 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Jake Copithorne played an outstanding game off the bench subbing for Anderson with 7 points and 6 rebounds, and boxed out nicely against SMU's much taller front court players. Deshun McCoy had 7 points and 5 rebounds. Jack Hanley had 6 points, a couple of rebounds and 6 assists. Oxy hurt themselves offensively with some poor 3-point shooting, hitting only 3-for-16, and for the game Oxy only shot 35% FGs on 20-for-57. For SMU, Rodney Clinkscales came off the bench red hot and really hurt the Tigers with 15 points in 12 minutes, including 4-for-5 on 3-balls.

Oxy is now 5-3. Next up for the Tigers is a game @ La Sierra on Dec. 30, and Oxy plays Ripon on New Year's Eve @ Concordia-Irvine, before coming home to play Emerson on Jan. 4.

OxyBob

[OxyBob]

Saturday scoreboard:

UC Santa Cruz 67, Cal Lutheran 65
Concordia-Irvine 76, Claremont 55
Albion 58, La Verne 48
North Park 89, Whittier 80
Pacific 80, Caltech 43

Redlands was idle. Chapman could not have played today because Pomona played La Sierra.

OxyBob

[pineconefan]

Who won the UCSC-CLU game?  The SCIAC and D3hoops.com sites show CLU won by two.  But I've heard other reports, including Bob's, that UCSC won.

[OxyBob]

Who won the UCSC-CLU game?

The Slugs won...

http://www.clusports.com/stats/mens_basketball/2009_2010/ucsc-clu.htm

After a second half that featured 10 lead changes and was tied on five separate occasions the Cal Lutheran men's basketball team fell 67-65 against UC Santa Cruz at home on Saturday afternoon. The Banana Slugs scored the game-winning basket with 1:29 left in the game.

UCSC's Brent Jacobs dunked the ball after an offensive rebound to break the tie at the 1:29 mark. Out of a timeout CLU set up Aaron Fisher who could not connect. After a stop on the defensive end the Kingsmen ran a play for Kyle Knudsen in three-point range but missed.

OxyBob

[TeeDub]

Saturday scoreboard:

UC Santa Cruz 67, Cal Lutheran 65
Concordia-Irvine 76, Claremont 55
Albion 58, La Verne 48
North Park 89, Whittier 80
Pacific 80, Caltech 43

Wow...not a good day for the SCIAC!

[OxyBob]

Saturday scoreboard:

UC Santa Cruz 67, Cal Lutheran 65

Wow...not a good day for the SCIAC!

CLU bounced back today and beat Pacific 71-62.

CLU: Kyle Knudsen 38 pts (14-for-18 FGs, 6-for-8 3s, 4-for-6 FTs), Aaron Van Klaveren 12 pts and 11 rebs
Pacific: Jonathan Jury 18, LeMar Anglin 13, Ross Bartlett 11
Halftime: Pacific 34-30
Rebounds: 27-27
Records: CLU 4-4, Pacific 4-5

OxyBob

[oldchap]

Redlands was idle. Chapman could not have played today because Pomona played La Sierra.

OxyBob

These two teams weren't idle tonight. Chapman got the better of Redlands by a score of 76 to 57. Chapman is now 9-1, having lost to Claremont only by one point, and seriously eyeing a post-season bid.

I don't even have to say a peep about OxyBob's jabs, Chapman's record speaks for itself....

Wow...not a good day for the SCIAC!

I guess not!

[OxyBob]

I don't even have to say a peep about OxyBob's jabs

That'll be the day. You can't ignore me. My will is too strong. Of course, you could always go back to the "West Region Independent Schedule" board and listen to the reverberating echo.

Good luck down the road during that upcoming tough stretch against Caltech, West Coast Baptist, La Sierra, UDallas, La Sierra (again), Southwestern, Southwestern (again) and La Sierra (again).

Chapman's schedule speaks for itself.

By the way, Hoops Unlimited is always looking for teams for their 5-on-5 men's league.

OxyBob

[oldchap]

Good luck down the road during that upcoming tough stretch against Caltech, West Coast Baptist, La Sierra, UDallas, La Sierra (again), Southwestern, Southwestern (again) and La Sierra (again).

Chapman's schedule speaks for itself.

OxyBob

I wouldn't throw this rock if I were you!! So far, with wins against West Coast Baptist (twice), American Sports University and La Sierra, the record of your friends at Occidental looks mighty impressive. By the way, they have another tough matchup at La Sierra coming up (again!), right before New Year's Eve. After this one, your boys might not be able to stay up till midnight on the 31st...

[Gray Fox]

Congratulations to tigersports!  He was quoted today on the front page of the LA Times sports section about his frustration with all the Angels' personnel changes to date.

I am in complete agreement with him.

[NY24]

What 3-5 colleges are most like Oxy in terms of bball skill level in the west?

[Gray Fox]

What 3-5 colleges are most like Oxy in terms of bball skill level in the west?

I think this poster is a potential recruit based on his posts elsewhere.  So give him an honest answer.

[stag44]

What 3-5 colleges are most like Oxy in terms of bball skill level in the west?

In the SCIAC, the conference where Oxy plays, there are arguably a top 4 schools that seem to compete for the title most years: Oxy, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, Pomona-Pitzer and Cal Lutheran.

Each play very controlled games predicated on ball movement and solid defense. All the Coaches at these 4 schools have been around for 10+ years at their respective schools. Going back the last 6 years, the NCAA bids from the SCIAC have gone solely to these schools.

Along with these, there is Chapman. They are and independent school that would compete for the SCIAC title if they were a part of the conferences. Again, a long tenured coach in a program centered around suffocating defense and controlled offense.

For a more free-flowing style of play in Souther California you have the likes of Redlands, La Verne and Whittier. For the most part recently, those schools have struggled to crack the top-tier of league (Whittier finished 2nd last year and Redlands finished 2nd in 06-07)
They are far more offensive minded teams with talent, but not necessarily the best coaching.

All these schools are pretty good options, and depending on what you are looking for education-wise they all provide solid degrees. To be quite honest, I think alot of it comes down to campus visits and meeting the team. While D-3 is competitive and the best choice I made looking back, at the end of the day your experience is defined more by the players you play with and the relationships built with teammates and your overall liking of the college you attend.

Hope this helps!

[oldchap]

What 3-5 colleges are most like Oxy in terms of bball skill level in the west?

Stag44's answer is pretty complete, but let me chime in if I may.

First, in my opinion (and this is only an opinion), the style of play at Pomona-Pitzer is more free flowing than what Stag44 described. Coach Kat has his players move in and out of their respective positions and you can see a 3 or even a 4 with good ball handling bring the ball up the court as well as non guards take long range jumpers. He also believes in pushing the ball up the court quickly, even if it results in a non set play. Generally, they are an excellent three-point shooting team, but of course as you know "you live at the three point line but you also die there".

As for Claremont, the coach generally looks for "tough minded" players. He will favor a player who fights for every ball, isn't afraid to throw himself on the floor to try and grab a loose ball, as opposed to a more "finesse" player, even if the latter has better skills.

Finally, and I know a little more about this one, Coach Bo at Chapman believes in extreme discipline. He wants every play to be run through a half court offense, unless the players have an obvious breakaway. Each player is given stringent rules about when and where they can shoot on the floor, so that every shot is either high percentage or an uncontested jumper. Finally, he is obsessed with defense. He will give more minutes to a good defender with average shooting abilities rather than the other way around.

[fhsutiger]

What 3-5 colleges are most like Oxy in terms of bball skill level in the west?

Stag44's answer is pretty complete, but let me chime in if I may.

First, in my opinion (and this is only an opinion), the style of play at Pomona-Pitzer is more free flowing than what Stag44 described. Coach Kat has his players move in and out of their respective positions and you can see a 3 or even a 4 with good ball handling bring the ball up the court as well as non guards take long range jumpers. He also believes in pushing the ball up the court quickly, even if it results in a non set play. Generally, they are an excellent three-point shooting team, but of course as you know "you live at the three point line but you also die there".

As for Claremont, the coach generally looks for "tough minded" players. He will favor a player who fights for every ball, isn't afraid to throw himself on the floor to try and grab a loose ball, as opposed to a more "finesse" player, even if the latter has better skills.

Finally, and I know a little more about this one, Coach Bo at Chapman believes in extreme discipline. He wants every play to be run through a half court offense, unless the players have an obvious breakaway. Each player is given stringent rules about when and where they can shoot on the floor, so that every shot is either high percentage or an uncontested jumper. Finally, he is obsessed with defense. He will give more minutes to a good defender with average shooting abilities rather than the other way around.

I will start off by saying your best bet is to find a school where you know you can succeed not only on the basketball court, but you can succeed after basketball is over. I believe the Claremont Colleges, and being Bias of course, I think CMS is your best bet. Not only will you have a coach who will push you on the basketball court mentally and physically, but will also prepare you for your future. I have known Coach Scalmanini for a couple of years now, and there is nobody around who will help you prepare for life after basketball. I have talked to many Alumni and they have told me that Coach Scalmanini was the best thing that ever happened to them. They all had JOBS before they graduated, and through his ability to push you off the court as well as on the court, you are prepared to go into the working world.

As for the basketball aspect of CMS, old chap is right in a lot of ways. Coach Scalmanini generally looks for tough minded players, but he also enjoys players who have a love for the game and a will to succeed. Stag teams usually are very tough on the defensive side of the court and usually rank high in Div. III in overall defense every year. Believe me when I say that every team in the SCIAC hates playing the Stags because they know they will get beat up on the defensive end and will have to play defense on the other end. I also have to throw this in as well. The stags have finished in the top 4 the last couple of years that I can remember finishing first 2 out of the last 4. We have WON the SCIAC Championship and SCIAC tournament out-right last year. You couldn't pick a better place to play and go to school than CMC, and you won't find a better human being and coach then Coach Scalmanini.

Good luck on your search!