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dahlby

There has been mention regarding Chapman's future intentions of what division they will  be a part of. in the future. Let it be known that Chapman intends to stay in Division D3. CU would like to play more games against the SCIAC, or possibly join the conference if asked, but in the meantime will do the best they can with the opportunities they are presented with for scheduling.


fhsutiger

Quote from: dahlby on January 14, 2010, 04:19:46 PM
There has been mention regarding Chapman's future intentions of what division they will  be a part of. in the future. Let it be known that Chapman intends to stay in Division D3. CU would like to play more games against the SCIAC, or possibly join the conference if asked, but in the meantime will do the best they can with the opportunities they are presented with for scheduling.

I don't know about you, but if I was an athlete on that team I would want to move up in Divison and secondly I would want to be in a conference. Wouldn't you want a chance to play in a conference championship and play better teams than La Sierra and West Coast Baptist among others.
The SCIAC isn't goin to happen, so forget that. Pray that you move up in Division or join a conference somewhere. That's your best bet!

dahlby

#3482
I am not implying that Chapman should or should not change divisions. I also am not in a position to speak for the athletes as to what our they would want from sports vs an education. Different students go to different schools for different reasons.

I made my comments only to clear the air and not to participate in that conversation.

tigersports

Quote from: fhsutiger on January 14, 2010, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: dahlby on January 14, 2010, 04:19:46 PM
There has been mention regarding Chapman's future intentions of what division they will  be a part of. in the future. Let it be known that Chapman intends to stay in Division D3. CU would like to play more games against the SCIAC, or possibly join the conference if asked, but in the meantime will do the best they can with the opportunities they are presented with for scheduling.

I don't know about you, but if I was an athlete on that team I would want to move up in Divison and secondly I would want to be in a conference. Wouldn't you want a chance to play in a conference championship and play better teams than La Sierra and West Coast Baptist among others.
The SCIAC isn't goin to happen, so forget that. Pray that you move up in Division or join a conference somewhere. That's your best bet!

If I had a choice between D-III an D-II and was serious about the school part, I would always opt for D-III.  While the competition in D-II is better, chances are you're playing a bunch of commuter schools -- the dreaded "directional schools" (NW Missouri St.), "States that aren't states" (Bemidji St.) and hyphenated school (Cal-State-Dominguez Hills").  Chapman WAS D-II when Walt Hazzard was there and it looks like they're better-suite to D-II.

Gregory Sager

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

OxyBob

Quote from: fhsutiger on January 14, 2010, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: dahlby on January 14, 2010, 04:19:46 PM
There has been mention regarding Chapman's future intentions of what division they will  be a part of. in the future. Let it be known that Chapman intends to stay in Division D3. CU would like to play more games against the SCIAC, or possibly join the conference if asked, but in the meantime will do the best they can with the opportunities they are presented with for scheduling.
I don't know about you, but if I was an athlete on that team I would want to move up in Divison and secondly I would want to be in a conference. Wouldn't you want a chance to play in a conference championship and play better teams than La Sierra and West Coast Baptist among others.

Chapman forward Justin Riley said in his blog:

QuoteAs most teams in America start conference play, we continue our independent non-conference battle against other Division III independents, NAIA, and NCCAA opponents. I couldn't wish more than to be in a conference and to experience that atmosphere, but that's not the case.

OxyBob

dahlby

As I mentioned in my previous post, I can't speak for what our CU student athletes would like, and I have no intention to do so. In his post Justin, a fine young student athlete, expressed what he would like. But, my post was in reference to previous posts expressing a view of what they THOUGHT Chapman was going to do. My intention was to correct that posting, which was to say that at this time Chapman has NO plans to move from D3. Other posters have expressed their personal opinion of what Chapman SHOULD do, in the posters opinion. That is fine, as we all are free to have an opinion. But, I was only correcting posts regarding what has been expressed and attributed to CU staff.
I hope this clears the air.

D O.C.

Quoteit looks like they're better-suite to D-II

Does that give them a better shot at the Suite Sixteen?

fhsutiger

Upcoming SCIAC Schedule for Saturday

All games scheduled for 7:30 p.m.

Pomona Pitzer @ Redlands
CMS @ Caltech
Occidental @ Cal Lutheran
LaVerne @ Whittier

Predictions:
Redlands def. PP by 6
CMS def. Caltech by 25
Cal Lutheran defeats Oxy by 3
Whittier def. LaVerne by 6

OxyBob

#3489
Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Oxy 72, Cal Lutheran 65

Oxy got a very satisfying road win at Cal Lutheran.

CLU got off to a quick start and led 10-0 after 2-1/2 minutes. Oxy steadily fought back and took the lead 22-21 on Deshun McCoy's jumper at 5:45. The Tigers took the lead for good at 28-25 on Eric Leider's 3-ball, and Oxy led 38-29 at the half.

In the second half, Oxy led 54-45 at 9:50. CLU cut it to 58-55, and Andy Meier's jumper made it 61-57, but Oxy scored the next 6 on 3 FTs followed by a huge dagger-to-the-heart 3-ball by Peter Gierlach, and Oxy led 67-57 with 2:15 to go. Kyle Knudsen canned a 3-pointer to cut the lead to 5, but Jack Hanley answered right back with a 3-ball, and Oxy got a well-earned road win.

For Oxy, Hanley had 19, Huston Conti had 15, Deshun McCoy continued to impress with 11 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks, and Sean Anderson scored 10. Great work off the bench by Dave Ostrow, Jake Copithorne, and especially 22 tough minutes by Peter Gierlach.

For CLU, Greg Grimm played an outstanding game with 19 points, Mr. Steady Kyle Knudsen had 17, Andy Meier scored 16 and had 8 rebounds, and Aaron Van Klaveren pulled down 16 rebounds including 7 offensive boards.

The Tigers shot 57% FGs in the first half and 49% for the game, and were 8-for-13 on 3-pointers. CLU outrebounded Oxy 33-30, but hurt themselves by making only 5-for-13 FTs in the second half, and 10-for-21 for the game.

Kudos also to the Oxy women's team, who not only won their game over CLU 72-69, but thoroughly neutralized the Kingsmen student section with some well-placed smack. One of the bare-chested CLU fans with a big "I" painted on his chest was unpolitely told to "do some push-ups," and after Aaron Van Klaveren clanged a FT, he was told by the Oxy girls, "Hey, they're FREE!"

With the win, Oxy is now 10-4, 2-1 SCIAC, while Cal Lutheran falls to 7-7, 1-2.

Saturday night's other SCIAC scores:

Claremont 77, Caltech 43
CMS: Chris Blees 19, Beau Heidrich 11
CIT: Mike Edwards 13, Alex Runkel 12

Whittier 81, La Verne 67
WC: DaMon Perry 21 pts and 11 rebs, Josh Deanne 20, Drew Menez 18, David Hayashi 12
ULV: Trevor Woodland 18, Austin Napolitano 15, John Leggett 12, Matt Heyd 10

Redlands 63, Pomona 60
UR: Pat Coffey 14
PP: Justin Sexton 15, Shawn Stephan 12, Adam Chaimowitz 11

Wednesday's schedule, all games 7:30 p.m.:

Redlands  (6-8, 2-1 SCIAC) @ Whittier (7-6, 1-2)
Pomona (6-8, 2-1) @ Cal Lutheran (7-7, 1-2)
La Verne (5-9, 1-2) @ Claremont (11-3, 3-0)
Caltech (0-14, 0-3) @ Oxy (10-4, 2-1)

OxyBob

stag44

Quote from: OxyBob on January 17, 2010, 01:23:46 AM
Wednesday's schedule, all games 7:30 p.m.:

Redlands  (6-8, 2-1 SCIAC) @ Whittier (7-6, 1-2)
Pomona (6-8, 2-1) @ Cal Lutheran (7-7, 1-2)
La Verne (5-9, 1-2) @ Claremont (11-3, 3-0)
Caltech (0-14, 0-3) @ Oxy (10-4, 2-1)

OxyBob

Predictions for tonight:

Whittier d. Redlands by 12 - Look for a high scoring game in the 70s or 80s with Whittier led by Menez and Perry, while Redlands counters with Coffey and Deitrich

Pomona d. Cal Lu by 4 - CLU has been the dissapointment of the SCIAC this year, returning everyone from last year as well as a healthy Andy Meier, but have struggled to put it together. Pomona is always tough and with the veteran trio of Sexton, Liss and Chaimowitz, they'll make the long drive to CLU and pull out a win.

CMS d. La Verne by 9 - The most impressive part of the Stags since Christmas has been their Defense. They have held opponents to under 53ppg in their last 6 games. With thier D clicking like the Stags of old and their explosive offense where Blees, Toney, Faught, Bagby, Lacey can all go for 20 on any night, look for them to throttle La Verne. La Verne is paced by Austin Napolitano and Trevor Woodland as well as PG Leggat. They have played well at points (challenging Chapman twice) and also played poorly (losing to La Sierra!). The key for the Stags will be to take them out of the game early and not let them stay close into the second half.

Oxy d. CalTech by 29 - CalTech looks to have a competitive second half against a SCIAC team, but wont happen here. They are led by Ryan Elmquist and Mike Edwards who take and account for a bulk of their offense. Oxy is led by Conti, Anderson, and McCoy. Should be a game that Newhall can look for another body on the bench to help out their cause.

tigersports

Is this board broken?  Where is everyone?  (Crickets)

Gray Fox

Quote from: tigersports on January 20, 2010, 08:53:52 PM
Is this board broken?  Where is everyone?  (Crickets)
Why read?  Your excellent discussion and broadcast last week during the CMS/Oxy game covered everything we talk about here.  OB even had many good things to say about Chapman.   I'm hoping for a repeat performance this week. :)
Fierce When Roused

CMSfan

#3493
Eyewitness report from Claremont

CMS 76, La Verne 61

Box Score: http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/winter/mbkb/2009-10/stats/ULV-CMS.HTM

In a game marred by atrocious officiating, CMS bounced back from a 9 point halftime deficit to win by 15.  Blees led the way with 24, and 5 other Stags contributed 7-9 points each.  John Leggett led La Verne with 20.

CMS looked out of sync throughout the first half, and La Verne managed to claw their way to a halftime lead with good shooting and aggressive defense.  Once the second half began though, it was clear that the Stags are the superior team.  La Verne was outmatched, and once CMS took the lead and regained momentum, they never looked back.

Other thoughts:

  • Joey Anderson's (CMS #42) defense is beautiful to watch.
  • From watching this game, I never would have guessed Austin Napolitano is La Verne's leading scorer
  • CMS has a lot of options on offense.  As I've mentioned before, this is a very deep team.
  • Bad calls are part of basketball, especially in the SCIAC, but it's really painful to watch the wrong official (ie the one who isn't in position) make the wrong call over and over and over again.  And it's worse when the coaches try to pull them aside to discuss, yet they just put up a hand and walk away.  It's like that kid in high school who picked his nose and never showered and everyone made fun of.  Then, when you try to be nice to him at the lunch tables, he just yells and you and makes a scene.  Alas.

OxyBob

Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Pomona 68, Cal Lutheran 66

Adam Chiamowitz's 3-pointer at the buzzer gave Pomona the win at Cal Lutheran.

In the first half, Pomona led 24-15 at 6:50, but CLU outscored the Sagehens 20-10, including 3 straight 3-balls by Jayvaughn Nettles, and the Kingsmen led 35-34 at the half.

In the second half, Pomona led 52-45 at 12:50, but back came CLU again with 2 more 3-pointers by Nettles, and Kyle Knudsen's layup gave Cal Lutheran a 64-58 lead at 5:20. CLU led 66-65 after Pomona's Donald Okpalugo made a layup at 2:50, and that's how it stayed until the end. CLU's Gregg Grimm missed the front-end of a 1-and-1 with 13 seconds left, and PP's Justin Sexton got the rebound. David Liss brought the ball upcourt for Pomona but got tangled up with the CLU defenders, and a held ball was called with the possession arrow pointing Pomona's way with 1.8 seconds left. After discussion the refs changed the clock back to 2.5 seconds to go. Sexton brought the ball in to Shawn Stephan, who got it to Chiamowitz in the corner, and his high, arching rainbow swished through as the buzzer sounded.

For Pomona, Chiamowitz finished with 18 points, Sexton had 20, and David Liss scored 11. For CLU, Grimm had 21, Nettles had 15 on 5-for-6 3-balls, and Kyle Knudsen had 10.

Pomona is 7-8, 3-1 SCIAC, Cal Lutheran is 7-8, 1-3.

OxyBob