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stag44

Pomona 47 - CMS 36

Ugly offensive performance from the Stags. They were thoroughly outplayed and especially outhustled on the boards, giving up countless offensive rebounds to PP. Tough game to listen to, as it was 10-10 with 9 minutes to go in the 1st half. PP then went on a 11-3 run to end the half, leading 21-13 at the break. In the second half it was more of the same. Stags threatened cutting it to 6 with about 8 minutes to go, but could not get over the hump. In a furious rally at the end, the Stags cut it to 4 with 1:40 to go with the ball, but were unable to convert and from there it turned into a FT parade.

Almost good that the Stags got this L.. Scali will have something that he can show the Stags- showing they aren't as good as they may have thought.. Similar type of game occurred last year @PP where the Stags lost convincingly, and from there went 11-1 to close the regular season, only losing to CLU in SCIAC. The Stags have got to keep their emotions in check and maintain control of both the composure and ball. Too many turnovers and FAR too many forced shots. They have to come together after this L and realize that individually they wont beat many teams, but rather need to play as a team, pass-pass, over dribbling and forcing the issue with the bounce.

Regardless, some good came from it. Stags did show that even when they weren't scoring, they defended admirably, only giving up 47 pts. If you had told me before the game that PP only scores 47 points I would have said thats a Stag rout. Regardless, they have some good things to build on, and a whole lot to improve on.. Look for a more physical rebounding effort from the Stags on Saturday and better offensive continuity as well.

Also, give PP some credit. They frustrated the Stags with their packed in man and zone d's, causing the Stags to run into 3 and 4 defenders on every dribble drive. Would have been nice to see some sit downs from the stags to pass out to open shooters. PP controlled the game and their emotions, seemingly hitting every big shot and grabbing a big o-board when they needed to stem any momentum. The stags really could not muster up any sort of run or momentum, in large part to PPs will and execution. The rematch will be a BLOODBATH at Ducey Gym, with SERIOUS title implications.

in other scores:

Redlands 71 Oxy 70 - Looked like it was close all throughout.

CLU 65 - ULV 51  - CLU gets back in the W column convincingly

ULV 73 - CalTech 46.

So this is how the current SCIAC standings look:

CMS 5-1
P-P  5-1
UR   5-1
Oxy 4-2
ULV 2-4
CLU 2-4
WC  1-5
CIT  0-6

The top three are in a serious tie as CMS d Redlands, Redlands d PP and PP d CMS. I cant remember the tiebreaker on this, but there was a similar situation last year for CLU Whittier and PP to determine the 2-4 seeds in the tournament, and it came down to PP and CLU having to Coin toss because they had identical tiebreakers.


CMSfan

stag44 posted while I was typing...but I'll go ahead and post anyway...

Eyewitness report from Claremont

PP 47, CMS 36

Box Score: Not available yet

The SCIAC race tightened up quite a bit as PP took down the Stags in a defensive battle.

Other than a brief run in the second half, CMS never really got much going offensively.  PP led 23-13 at the half.  CMS cut the lead to 4 with a minute to go, but PP made their foul shots down the stretch to win comfortably.

If I had to identify the biggest factor in PP's win, it would probably be offensive rebounding.  They dominated CMS on the boards and got some easy buckets down low, buckets that CMS didn't get (or didn't convert).  Liss and Sexton both hit some big shots, and probably led the way in scoring for PP, although I wouldn't say anyone shot the ball particularly well on either side.  Blees and Toney led the way for the Stags, though Toney really struggled for the first 25 minutes or so.  It didn't seem like CMS ever really figured out how to beat PP's zone.  Poor shooting and some uncharacteristic turnovers didn't help.

I imagine Scali and the boys are looking forward to taking another crack at PP on the other side of 6th Street.  The crowd from both teams was relatively well-behaved (and even a little subdued at times) tonight; if CMS and PP are vying for the top of the conference in a few weeks, I'm guessing it will be a slightly more intense environment at Ducey Gym.

OxyBob

#3527
Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Cal Lutheran 65, Whittier 51

CLU got a much-needed win over Whittier. Great job by the CLU defenders on Drew Menez, who came into the game averaging 21.6 ppg. CLU held Menez to 8 points and made sure he never got in any sort of rhythm.

Cal Lutheran led at the half 34-24, and built the lead to 49-32 at 14:10. Whittier really amped up its defensive pressure and cut the lead to 49-42, but a 9-1 spurt by the Kingsmen made it 58-43 at 5:50 and that was all she wrote.

For CLU, Andy Meier played all 40 minutes, had a game-high and season-high 23 points on 11-for-17 FGs, and looked like the old Andy Meier opponents have come to dread. Meier also had 8 rebounds, an assist and 2 steals. Kyle Knudsen also scored 12 for CLU, and Aaron Fisher played a strong game off the bench with 9 points and 8 rebounds. CLU shot 48% and outrebounded WC 39-33.

For Whittier, DaMon Perry had 13 but no one else was in double figures for the Poets. WC only shot 32.8% for the game.

Cal Lutheran is 8-9, 2-4 SCIAC. The Kingsmen are at Claremont (13-4, 5-1) on Saturday. Whittier drops to 7-9, 1-5, and is home to Caltech (0-16, 0-7) on Saturday.

Quote from: stag44 on January 28, 2010, 12:30:09 AM
Redlands 71 Oxy 70 - Looked like it was close all throughout.

Justin Sobczyk's jumper with 9 seconds to go gave Redlands the win. Peter Geirlach's desperation 3-ball at the buzzer missed for Oxy. That's the second year in a row that Oxy's lost in UR's bandbox in the last 10 seconds.

Oxy is 12-5, 4-2, and Redlands is 9-8, 5-1. This Saturday Oxy is home to Pomona (9-8, 5-1) while Redlands hosts La Verne (6-11, 2-4).

Quote from: oldchap on January 27, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
What is the point of playing USD when even their bench can beat you with one hand tied behind their back?

Wrong yet again. In the 2007 game against USD, Oxy lost 71-62, and San Diego still had 2 starters in at the end of the game. This season against Fullerton, Oxy's starters beat CSUF's bench 40-39 in the second half.

OxyBob

fhsutiger

Eyewitness Report from Pomona:

I'm not going to go into the game to much, due to Stag44 and CMSme giving you such a detailed report. The Game did come down to Pomona's ability to pick up offensive rebound after offensive rebound. I don't think I have seen the Stags give up that many second opportunities as they did last night.

On the offensive end, the stags just couldn't put the ball in the basket. The majority of the missed opportunities were crib shots, that the stags usually convert. It just wasn't their night offensively. I have to give Pomona credit for last nights performance. They were off from 3 point, and scored majority of there baskets within 8 feet of the basket. When was the last night you could say Pomona beat CMS without drilling a thousand 3's. Congrats on the win Pomona, but remember you still have to come across the street where Stag44 says you are going to meet a "blood bath" and very hungry stag team.

The one mystery I do have about the game last night, is who is in charge of allowing a dumb Pomona football assistant to run their announcing. I don't think anyone can match his ability to give you play by play during the game from the announcing seat.  He even went so far to yell out "Press" during the game. I don't think I have ever seen that before. Watch out Stags, the announcer is giving away your tactics. Besides announcing EVERY REBOUND, EVERY SCORE, EVERY ASSIST, and constantly telling the kids to keep it clean, I could barely stand to watch the game.
Here is my idea for the Assistant Coach! (Announcer)
--No one is there to listen to you talk. Do the line-ups, announce who scores, get the pomona kids fired up a little bit, then shut your mouth. Maybe you should spend a little more time working on your football team (who needs the help) than worrying about who's listening to you.  Sorry I had to get that off my chest!!!

Stags Welcome Cal Lu on Saturday. I look forward to hearing the broadcast as our very own alumni Tejas Gala I hear will be announcing from the booth. Should be interesting! Go Stags!

OxyBob

#3529
Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 10:38:52 AM
Besides announcing EVERY REBOUND, EVERY SCORE, EVERY ASSIST, and constantly telling the kids to keep it clean, I could barely stand to watch the game.

Obviously he's a frustrated Chick Hearn poser.

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OxyBob

Quote from: CMSfan on January 28, 2010, 12:34:49 AM
If I had to identify the biggest factor in PP's win, it would probably be offensive rebounding.  They dominated CMS on the boards and got some easy buckets down low, buckets that CMS didn't get (or didn't convert).

According to the box score, Claremont had 13 offensive rebounds and Pomona had 11. Claremont had 25 defensive rebounds and Pomona had 38. Did Justin Sexton really have 25 rebounds? Holy cow!

OxyBob

fhsutiger

Obviously they don't know how to record offensive rebounds, because I for sure that they had more than 11. As for Sexton... it wouldn't suprise me if he had 25 rebounds. He had is hands on everything last night. They probably gave him a rebound for every time he touched the ball, even if he didn't come down with the rebound. He was amazing last night!

CMSfan

Quote from: OxyBob on January 28, 2010, 11:22:26 AM
According to the box score, Claremont had 13 offensive rebounds and Pomona had 11.
I find those numbers surprising, but even if they're accurate, the fact remains that PP managed to get far more easy second chance baskets than CMS.  I will say that CMS did have some put back opportunities, but missed most, if not all, of them.


Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 10:38:52 AM
Do the line-ups, announce who scores, get the pomona kids fired up a little bit, then shut your mouth.
My thoughts exactly.  That guy was a joke.  I'm sure I found him even more annoying because our guys were losing, but I can't ever remember an "announcer" doing play by play in the middle of the action.

pineconefan

Willamette had a PA guy a couple years ago who was nearly as cheesy.

He was leading cheers from the mic - "Dee - fence, Dee - fence" and "Let's go Bearcats, let's go".  He must've thought he was trying out for the Trailblazers' job.
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fhsutiger

Just tell me this....ANYONE.....

Has anyone ever been to a game where the announcer yells out!

"Press"

while the opposing team is trying to pressure full court. I about lost my breath when I heard that. He even said this, which made the official come over to correct him, which he never corrected himself. On a normal foul call, he says this.....

"Flagrant foul on number 33, I believe he is out of the game"

I was almost in Tears!!!!!

OxyBob

Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 01:43:16 PM
I was almost in Tears!!!!!

From laughing or crying?

I can't believe Kat, Doc and PJ would approve of that nonsense. Aside from it being really, really bush, it seems to me that kind of stuff might constitute inciting undesirable crowd reaction and be subject to a technical foul.

OxyBob

fhsutiger

Quote from: OxyBob on January 28, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 01:43:16 PM
I was almost in Tears!!!!!

From laughing or crying?

I can't believe Kat, Doc and PJ would approve of that nonsense. Aside from it being really, really bush, it seems to me that kind of stuff might constitute inciting undesirable crowd reaction and be subject to a technical foul.

OxyBob

I'm guessing since I know the 3 of them very well as well, that they just didn't realize it as much as the fans did. As you know the CMS-PP rivalry game is very loud, and you get lost in the game. I'm sure if they knew what was going on, it probably would have been stopped. I'm guessing he was a little more animated for this game, and probably doesn't do this on a consistent basis. Let's hope!

It's not like the kids need any help for this game, hell the bottles of water (Shhhh...don't tell the powers to be.... its not water) that is being drank during the game is enough to keep the kids active. LOL

BUBeaverFan

Excuse me for crashing the board with a football story.  I thought the announcer story from earlier posts was interesting and reminded me of this:

At Bluffton University (OH) and Alma College (MI) football game a number of years ago at Alma.  When Bluffton was on offense the public address announcer would do play by play, such as "Hemmert fakes the handoff, scrambling to his left, its a screen, its a screen, its a screen to the flanker", as loud as he could.  This went on for every Bluffton offensive play the whole game.  He was of course silent when Alma had the ball.  The looks on the faces of the Bluffton football team was priceless.  The coaching staff was stunned and the officials just kind of shrugged their shoulders.

OxyBob

Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
It's not like the kids need any help for this game, hell the bottles of water (Shhhh...don't tell the powers to be.... its not water) that is being drank during the game is enough to keep the kids active.

Are you implying that college students were drinking during the game? That's almost as shocking as Captain Renault discovering that gambling was going on at Rick's.

OxyBob

fhsutiger

Quote from: OxyBob on January 28, 2010, 05:11:35 PM
Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
It's not like the kids need any help for this game, hell the bottles of water (Shhhh...don't tell the powers to be.... its not water) that is being drank during the game is enough to keep the kids active.

Are you implying that college students were drinking during the game? That's almost as shocking as Captain Renault discovering that gambling was going on at Rick's.

OxyBob

Well lets just say my favorite announcer spent the first minute after the National Anthem to explain to the kids that everyone knew what was in the water bottles. He spent the two minutes showing how smart he really was. I wish he would have stopped talking after the starting lineups!

Pat Coleman

Quote from: fhsutiger on January 28, 2010, 10:38:52 AM
I don't think anyone can match his ability to give you play by play during the game from the announcing seat. 

Sounds like my experience at a Pomona-Pitzer football game. Professionalism ... well, it was lacking there too.
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