MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[oldchap]

Stag44,

Very nice write up!! I of course disagree on the following statement: 

In a close game in the 2nd half, I have to give the edge to the Stags.

However, your analysis of the game, the players, the mood and the excitement is superb. You clearly know your stuff.

Elmhurst was 1-13 and last in the CCIW this season. Another stiff Chapman played.

OxyBob

OxyBob, I know you're fuming about Chapman getting into the tournament. I tell you what: had Oxy played Chapman instead of all those Junior Varsity teams, a couple of things might have happened. If Oxy had won, that probably would have knocked Chapman out of contention. Either way, it would have helped Oxy for their strength of schedule and might (I say might) have given them a shot at Pool C.

Food for thought.... especially for next year.

[Pat Coleman]

I don't think one more loss would have kept Chapman out of the tournament.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yes, and another totally unfair shot by OB.  The previous five years, Elmhurst won 94 games, and challenged for the title each year in the CCIW.  Hardly a 'stiff' at the time the game was scheduled.

[OxyBob]

Yes, and another totally unfair shot by OB.  The previous five years, Elmhurst won 94 games, and challenged for the title each year in the CCIW.  Hardly a 'stiff' at the time the game was scheduled.

Elmhurst was 1-13 in the CCIW. The only conference game it won was against 2-12 Millikin, another CCIW stiff. I'm surprised you're not in here making the usual lame excuses for CCIW losses on the West Coast by attributing Elmhurst's loss to Chapman on a plane ride, or bad refereeing, or foul trouble, or any of the myriad of other dumb reasons you usually come up with to explain away a loss.

OxyBob

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yes, and another totally unfair shot by OB.  The previous five years, Elmhurst won 94 games, and challenged for the title each year in the CCIW.  Hardly a 'stiff' at the time the game was scheduled.

Elmhurst was 1-13 in the CCIW. The only conference game it won was against 2-12 Millikin, another CCIW stiff. I'm surprised you're not in here making the usual lame excuses for CCIW losses on the West Coast by attributing Elmhurst's loss to Chapman on a plane ride, or bad refereeing, or foul trouble, or any of the myriad of other dumb reasons you usually come up with to explain away a loss.

OxyBob

And yet another completely unfair (and pointless) post by OB.

Elmhurst turned out to be a stiff; they were hardly a stiff when scheduled - which is exactly what I posted, if your reading comprehension could rise to 2nd grade level.

[CalCat]

Interesting that you mention Knudsen as potential POY, but not Justin Sexton.  Sexton was 3rd in the league in scoring, and 1st in rebounding, 3rd in assists,  and ranked somewhere in the top 15 in every other category.  Knudsen was the most talented player in the league, Blees was the best player on the best team, but Justin Sexton was the POY

Glad to see someone bring up Justin Sexton as POY.  I saw several games with Blees, Knudsen, and Sexton many head to head and came away impressed with Sexton each time.  Not flashy just got it done...If we were playing fantasy SCIAC with this years players and I had first pick it would be Justin taking nothing away from Blees or Knudsen.

[D O.C.]

 Eyewitness report from Orange.....

The co-oeds next to me said not to miss the underwear run this year!

[oldchap]

 Eyewitness from the Hutton Center:

Chapman 58 Claremont 47

[dahlby]

Great game, closer than final score. Stats @ :
chapmanathletics.com

Met the Oxy and CMS announcers tonight. Seemed like real nice guys.
Too bad I could not listen to either one of them. Always nice to get different views and opinions on the game, especially one this close.

Around 2,000 at the game and both student sections stood and cheered the whole game. Unbelievable
excitement the entire game. Crowd was loud but very well behaved.

[D O.C.]

Having never seen either of the teams play before.....

I watched CMS closely for the first 6 minutes and I could pick out the SCIAC MVP just by watching his TEAM moves. Too bad there was not a game plan that they went to him right away.  CMS waited until the second half to let him have the ball and try to make something happen. He'd shot a couple air balls (maybe trying to draw a foul?) by then and it just did not work.

CMS has a good weight program it seems because it appeared their strategy was to knock Chapman around hoping they were out of shape after their lay off. The strongest player on the court was Chapman's Jared Kaiser. He took every bump, push, and whack passed out and gave back his own.

There was one player who has (like me) the quick-twitch muscle to get up and up and that was Chapman's Justin Riley – bad knee and all. He and Blees guarded each other and it was fun to watch Riley get low to off-set the muscle of Blees and then go high above him for a rebound (a couple above the rim) or block a shot.

The refs let the guys bang and – unlike my reply to stag44 – did not try to guide the game. Hats off.

Having never seen Whitworth play I have zero prediction of Saturday.

[FunkFootball]

Remember Me? Haha.

Was at the game. As others stated much closer than the final score.

I mean this in no bad way because I'll be the first to say I did little to no scouting on CMS but...

It was a coaches duel. Tonight Chapman were the better coached squad.

[stag44]

Hats off to Chapman, looks like they just played a better game tonight. I wasn't able to watch, but looking at the box it seems like they made the plays down the stretch and Ramme was key. Tough for the Stags to get the win if Toney and Blees go a combined 6-25. Great game plan by the Panthers to slow them and big play from Ramme and Wood. 

Congrats the Stags on another SCIAC title, first Back2Back for the school in over 20 years and since PP did it in 04 and 05. Big time year for Blees as well, who should get another All-Region mention, and hopefully an All American mention (a bit of a reach). Not sure when the last back to back POY was, but my guess is Todd Thomas for the Stags? (any one know??). I think that they are the early favorites for next year as well. With PP and CLU losing everyone, it looks like a battle between CMS and Oxy (sounds like 05-06 again oxybob?  ) for the title.

WestCoastBias - many thanks for the fist pumps and what not. I do agree that I was not an offensive play at all. Never saw it as my role or needed to be in that position. I love D and played it with all my heart, but deferred the O to all the other guys. As for making overstatement and what not- what fun would the forum be without all that! 

FHSUtiger - I guess I did spend alot of my time on the floor. Always more fun down there than above the rim anyways.

OxyBob - We did beat WW earlier in the year. And we didn't play them even for the entire game. Better?

As for Joey Anderson - I truly think that he will develop into a better overall offensive player. He has the tools and athleticism to really be a big time scorer. If he spends the time to improve and gain confidence in his jumpshot as well as watch film and understand gaps and Stag offense, as well as stay hungry on the board he'll be a big time performer. I agree that McCoy probably has the highest upside in the SCIAC. As for Sexton and POY, he could have been mentioned as well, but I just dont think that teams gameplanned as much for him as they did for Blees and Knudsen.


Hopefully we can see a good game up at Spokane. To be quite honest, I'm not sure that Chapman will be able to do much. I would have said the same for CMS. Whitworth is just too potent on O for either team. I really haven't seen much weakness on the offensive end for them since Mid-December. They have 6+ guys who have gone for 17+ points this year, and 3 who have gone for 30+ (Riley, Montgomery, and Beal). They shoot the 3 at an alarmingly high rate, and in high volume as well. Also, enough can't be said about travelling for the Southern California teams. We don't do it often, and when we do, we're usually not playing at a high level. The idea of staying in hotels and all that is different for most guys and throws you off.

I think Chapman will keep it close for about 25 minutes, but there will be one 15-0 or 16-4 burst that will do them in. Good luck to the Panthers up in Spokane.

[OxyBob]

Hats off to Chapman, looks like they just played a better game tonight.

Indeed. Congratulations to Chapman and good luck against the Whitworthpirates. I highly recommend the Whitworth radio broadcast with Bob Castle, one of the best around.

http://www.whitworth.edu/Athletics/Radio.htm

OxyBob

[CMSfan]

Couldn't make it to the game, unfortunately, but I listened online.  Congrats to Chapman.  Good luck against Whitworth.

Looking forward to next fall.  I agree that CMS and Oxy have the strongest returning squads.

[pineconefan]

The Whitworth radio call is also part of the Whitworth video feed.  I've taken advantage of that good option myself.  Need a high speed connection.

http://www.whitworth.edu/Athletics/Teams/Basketball/livefeed.htm