MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Hoopsallthetime]

There is NO WAY you can see if he got fouled from the tape.  The angle of the camera in the CMS gym is in the 2nd deck and the shot happened right in front of the PP bench.  So the camera is 30 feet away, with the entire PP bench standing.  And unless our friend Hoopsallthetime is a CMS assistant, he has only seen the web stream of the replay.  I have seen many a web stream, and last I checked CMS isn't broadcasting in HD.  Meanwhile the official who made the call is standing there 5 feet from the play.  The official saw a foul and called it.  He didn't make it up.  Contrary to your conspiracy theories, the officials don't care who wins.  They just call what they see.  Call me crazy. 

I am shocked to hear a CMS fan say that he does not believe that CMS got the benefit of the calls!  Meanwhile BballJunkie seemed to think CMS did have the game called their way.  Sounds to me like it was probably called pretty evenly.

The only certainties in life are death, taxes, and the losing team crying about the officials!

Hoopsallthetime...you are really doing a disservice to the regular CMS posters like Stag44 and CMSfan.  They cheer unabashedly for their team, show their support, but they don't come on here and slam officials and other teams student bodies.  No doubt the PP fans said some vulgar things, but if you think the CMS fans are any different you are completely delusional.  Its an intense college basketball rivalry.  With intoxicated college students.  There are some that say some crude things.  AT EVERY SCHOOL.  Take your sour grapes somewhere else.

I watched on the webcast and could hear almost all of the PP fans chants.  You are probably referring to these horribly offensive chats.

"CAL STATE CLAREMONT!"

And when the CMS fans chanted "SCOREBOARD!"  They were met with a rousing "WHATS YOUR REAL SCORE?" from the PP side.



Oh the vulgarity!

I'm done talking about the bad call. I clearly thought it was a bad call and that is my opinion. There is a better view to the foul, but you will never see it. I'm ready to move on....

As for me being a disservice to the CMS family, you are completely wrong. You don't know me...and personally you can keep your thoughts to yourself. I am as passionate as there is for the Stags and the coaching staff. Clearly i was disgusted with how the game ended, but in no means am I taking away anything from the PP players and coaching staff. Katz did a great job preparing his kids to play, and I would never want to take that away from him. I just hope that CMS gets another chance at PP, and the students enjoy the game from both sides while being classy. I personally don't like the official that I referenced, and probably shouldn't have opened my mouth about how bad he is as a official. it is what it is...
As for the chants...I did hear the chants you suggested above, and I clearly thought they were funny. But you probably can only catch about 1/3 of the chants on webcast because of the noise.But how about this for example,Cody M was on the free throw line and the kids clearly wanted to talk about his man parts. Was that appropriate? Does the words F*## or P$$$y have to be cried out every five seconds with children clearly present. Did you hear that on the webcast or just not want to talk about it. Either way it got out of hand and should be cleaned up moving forward. At least for the young kids who attend the game..give me that.

I dont agree with the CMS students behavior and if you look at some my earlier posts you will clearly see that I think everyone of both sides should clean it up. West coast bias...how about this...why don't you come sit with me at the game on Saturday (if CMS and PP play)or possibly next year behind the CMS bench and you tell me if you come away from the game only hearing "CalState Claremont or "whats your real score" because if that is all that was chanted I wouldn't be slamming the PP or CMS students who attended the game. Either way..I can guarantee you won't come away thinking a young child should be at the game...regardless of who is playing!

[WoostAr]

So how about this scenario:

Claremont wins the SCIAC tourney...assume their the only sciac team to get into the tourney.

Whitworth loses but gets pool c bid, giving the NWC 2 teams in.

So Whitworth and whatever other team play round 1.....what would happen to Claremont?  Bye?...hard to believe that.  4 team pod somewhere?

[BBallJunkie81]

Looking forward to Friday night.

I have to agree with Hooopsallthetime, CMS will easily defeat Redlands - the PP loss will refocus CMS and Redlands will pay the consequences.  At the beginning of the year I thought Redlands would match up best with CMS, but they are not playing their best ball.  No contest.

The much better game will be PP and Whittier.  I see PP having an emotional letdown after the big win and there is no way Whittier will shoot as poorly as it did the first two times these teams met.  Third time will be a charm for the Poets.

[etule]

Redlands has been up and down but when they get going they can put up some points! Dangerous!

I think CMS wins the tourney and goes to Spokane and beats who ever the NWC puts up. NWC better teams depend on the 3 ball way to much. CMS has the beef to give them fits usless they heat up!

[CMSfan]

how about this...why don't you come sit with me at the game on Saturday

I'll be there tonight, and tomorrow, too (hopefully). Everyone should come sit with me!

[dahlby]

Before the Chapman BHSU basketball game last night I spoke with the referee who called the critical foul on CMS in the PP/CMS game Wednesday night. He did a very thorough explanation of the call. It more than satisfied my curiosity. (And believe me, I am as critical of SCIAC referee's as the next guy).

Good luck to all four SCIAC teams...although I would enjoy a rematch between PP/CMS the most!

[CMSfan]

...although I would enjoy a rematch between PP/CMS the most!

You got your wish.

CMS 67, Redlands 65
Box: http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/mbkb/2011-12/files/UR-CMS2.HTM

Pomona 60, Whittier 53
Box: http://www.pe.pomona.edu/sports/mbkb/2011-12/boxscores/20120224_qcs7.xml

[stag44]

Well both CMS and PP took care of business at home last night and we get part 3 and the rubber match between the 6th street rivals.

Both teams are going to be physically and emotionally spent coming into this game. All the main cogs from both teams are going to be playing 30+ minutes for the 3rd time in 5 nights, and regardless of how young and fresh they are, subbing patterns are going to be very important to this game.

It will be very tough to top the drama and excitement from the last 2 games these 2 have played. I expect a very close game that will be extremely physical and emotional.

Expect PP to continue playing a sagging man to man defense on missed shots, but play 23 zone off deadballs and made baskets. This will be the KEY to the Stags winning this game. They have to capitalize on PP playing zone and force them into a man to man. They can do this 2 ways. First they have to attack the key. In both games the Stags were passively passing the ball around the perimeter, almost afraid of passing or penetrating into the key. With two of the top threats in the key (Blees and Maciera) they have to go and attack the Sagehens this way. Expect to see more emphasis on getting offensive paint touches from Blees and Maciera while also seeing Pinson Gaffney and Mivshek penetrate to the basket. This will force the zone to collapse and mutate opening up layups and 3s. Also the Stags have to knock down open shots. In the heat of this game they were airmailing shot after shots and rushing open shots. They are open and will be able to take shots as they please against the zone, they just have to step in confidently and make them!

An emerging story of the last 2 games in Kyle McAndrews. They guys has shone brightest the last 2 games. After his ice cold clutch FTs to win vs CMS, he went for 22 agains Whittier in the SCIAC semis, with 18 coming in the 2nd half. He seems to be playing at a very high level. Expect the Stags to key on him and Cohen and prevent them from getting open or easy looks. They should also attack those 2 on the defensive end as they are young and inexperienced on that side of the ball.

Blees should have a field day, and I think Gaffney will be great. Maciera should enjoy this environment and after his effort against Redlands will be looking to back up that effort with another good game. I honestly think though, the x-factor in this game is the CMS. If they can come in off the bench and knock down a couple of 3s and get the CMS crowd involved that will be huge for the Stags. They have struggled the last couple games with his range, but I expect them to play well in this environment!

if you're planning on going to the game, get there early. Seating at Ducey will be at a premium and fans will be rowdy. Regardless of the words they choose or not, the environment is going to be electric. Both fans, while probably still recovering from Tuesday night will be primed and ready for another game like this, especially with no class the next day!

I have no clue how the game will turn out and will not even predict a winner, though everyone knows my bias

Here's to a game that is decided by the players!

[CMSfan]

Stags Win!!!

60-54.  CMS had a 16 point lead with around 10 minutes to go but Pomona made a run thanks to some great shooting from Po Grant.  But CMS stayed cool and outplayed PP down the stretch.  Great game. Great season.

Box: http://www.cmsathletics.org/sports/mbkb/2011-12/files/PP-CMS2.HTM

[CMSfan]

I don't mean to rehash Tuesday's game or cast aspersions on the officiating crew.  It's a really tough job and I appreciate that so many refs are willing to do it and maintain professionalism despite the verbal abuse they take. But I just saw this from CMC's student newspaper and thought I'd share: http://cmcforum.com/sports-connection/02252012-watch-live-stags-v-sagehens-sciac-finals

[Gosox]

Congrats to CMS on a terrific season!   Best of Luck at the tourney...go represent boys!

[OxyBob]

I don't mean to rehash Tuesday's game or cast aspersions on the officiating crew. 

I'm done talking about the bad call.

the bald schmuck (official)

an (official) especially that "putz"

I personally don't like the official that I referenced, and probably shouldn't have opened my mouth about how bad he is as a official.

it just took one knucklehead to determine the game at the end.

As long as you're done talking about it and not casting aspersions.

But I just saw this from CMC's student newspaper and thought I'd share

Once a crybaby always a crybaby.

Good luck to Claremont against Whitworth in Spokane.

OxyBob

[Gosox]

And that is what I enjoy most about Oxy Bob...hahaha...sorry but that is funny....again, best of luck, go represent well boys!

[cmsme]

So happy that CMS won, and hope they continue on and represent the SCIAC well!
The P-P/C-M-S crowd was very involved, with a large number of people who couldn't get in. I wish I could have enjoyed it more.

Regarding rankings, I was very happy that CMS was ranked so highly this season.
But, in previous years when CMS  was never ranked, I wondered how much better the ranked teams were than CMS. Now that CMS has been ranked, I know! There is very little difference.

[(509)Rat]

Regarding rankings, I was very happy that CMS was ranked so highly this season.But, in previous years when CMS  was never ranked, I wondered how much better the ranked teams were than CMS. Now that CMS has been ranked, I know! There is very little difference.

So you expect to lose in the first round? I'm really confused. See, CMS teams in years past haven't done too well in the tournament. If this team isn't much better than those, you better hope that you don't get sent to Spokane. Because I can say that this Whitworth team is better than the last one you guys played, and currently, are playing better basketball than last year's team (although they aren't quite as talented).