MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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WoostAr

I understand the travel expense issue - but there's a bigger problem with SCIAC scheudling.  CMS (for example) scheduled UCSC as it's only non-league, d3 regional opponent this year -- they filled the rest of their non-conference schedule with GSAC schools and a trip to Maine (believe it or not, that's out of region).  That's a waste of the non-conference schedule and travel.

If a team is going to spend the money to travel, travel to the right spots (the NorthWest, Minnesota, or Wisconsin).  Teams can play two regional opponents in one weekend. I acknowledge their trips could have been fully funded or some such thing, but have to be aware of the effect on regional rankings.

All of this while MIT was out here for one game earlier this year which easily could have been two (they're out of region but they're d3 and were in the top 25 at the time -- would have been a nice boost to strength of schedule)...pretty sure they would have played another SCIAC team.

The SCIAC scheduling will never be as good or as easy as some of the conferences in the midwest, but it could definitely be better without spending a whole lot more money.




Also...while CMS did play a school from Minnesota last year (St. Thomas) in the playoffs, they definitely played in Wisconsin (Whitewater).  http://cmsathletics.org/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120227yuqg1y


Pat Coleman

Quote from: WoostAr on February 28, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
I understand the travel expense issue - but there's a bigger problem with SCIAC scheudling.  CMS (for example) scheduled UCSC as it's only non-league, d3 regional opponent this year -- they filled the rest of their non-conference schedule with GSAC schools and a trip to Maine (believe it or not, that's out of region).  That's a waste of the non-conference schedule and travel.

If a team is going to spend the money to travel, travel to the right spots (the NorthWest, Minnesota, or Wisconsin).  Teams can play two regional opponents in one weekend.

Or Texas, or Illinois.
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Hoya86

CMS went to Boston not Maine.  Went to Texas next year.  Planning NW next year.  Only played 2 GSAC games this year; play level was comparable.

Question.  Wondering why CMS had 24 regular season games.  Did adding 9th conference team and the late season bye nights cause any other gaps in teams schedules....they need to figure that out.

Hoya86

My bad...it was 3 from GSAC for CMS..forgot Masters game at Pomona.

OxyBob

Quote from: Hoya86 on February 28, 2013, 09:17:28 PM
Only played 2 GSAC games this year

Quote from: Hoya86 on February 28, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
My bad...it was 3 from GSAC for CMS

Plus Point Loma, which left the GSAC along with Azusa Pacific and Fresno Pacific in 2011 for the NCAA D-II PacWest Conference.

OxyBob

WoostAr

Quote from: Hoya86 on February 28, 2013, 09:17:28 PM
Question.  Wondering why CMS had 24 regular season games.  Did adding 9th conference team and the late season bye nights cause any other gaps in teams schedules....they need to figure that out.

They sure do.  I was wondering that same thing at the beginning of the season...haven't checked all SCIAC teams, but Caltech, La Verne and Oxy got in their 25.



For comparison sake, La Verne had a pretty good schedule ...Aside from the Afghanistan National Team, they played all NCAA teams (granted, some were not d3) with a decent portion of those games being regional: Puget Sound, Willamette, UW Platteville, Pacific and UCSC...and they threw in a game against a nationally ranked MIT for kicks.  Unfortunately, they only won one of those games, but at least the played games that count.

so I guess I'm agreeing with Rat's point.....it is possible to schedule effectively even though the SCIAC has travel concerns.



In other news, all conference selections are out:  http://www.thesciac.org/sports/mbkb/2012-13/releases/20130301jw2ime

OxyBob

Quote from: WoostAr on March 01, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
In other news, all conference selections are out

QuoteThe SCIAC is proud to the Men's Basketball All-Conference Awards:

Athlete of the Year – Josiah Brensdale, Sr., University of Redlands

Josiah Brensdal.



Quote
First Team:

Cody Mivshek, Sr., Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Jake Vieth, Sr.,  University of La Verne
Jake Klewer, Jr., Pomona-Pitzer College
Tristan Kirk, Sr., University of Redlands
Alex Rudd, Jr., University Redlands
Tyree Landrum, Jr., Whittier College

Second Team:

Corey Quintana, Fr., California Lutheran University
Michael Edwards, Sr., Caltech
Jack Grodahl, So., Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Alex Wolpe, Sr., University of La Verne
Kyle McAndrews, So., Pomona-Pitzer Colleges
Willie Mebane, Sr., Whittier College

They got those names right.

Congratulations to all chosen.

OxyBob

dahlby

Very, very credible showing by Redland's Bulldogs as they fall to Whitworth 75-69 in first round action in Spokane tonight.

(509)Rat

30 minutes of light out shooting by the Bulldogs gave them a 10 point lead in the 2nd half. Whitworth guards stepped up late and Redlands went cold. That was the difference. Congrats to Redlands though, best showing in Spokane by a SCIAC team since Whitworth has been a d3 playoff regular. A couple more 3's go down and Redlands fans have something to rub in my face!

OxyBob

Quote from: dahlby on March 02, 2013, 11:47:04 PM
Very, very credible showing by Redland's Bulldogs 

Quote from: (509)Rat on March 02, 2013, 11:58:12 PM
best showing in Spokane by a SCIAC team since Whitworth has been a d3 playoff regular

Nice spin. Another loss by the SCIAC in the first round. The SCIAC hasn't won a first round game against anyone but itself since 2004.

OxyBob

cmsme

Too true Oxy Bob.   But Redlands almost beat Whitworth--and in a very difficult gym. So even if no one else gives the SCIAC any attention, I am proud that our unranked SCIAC team almost took down the #6 ranked team.  :) to the Bulldogs.

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OxyBob

Quote from: cmsme on March 03, 2013, 09:37:57 AM
But Redlands almost beat Whitworth

Big deal. Did they win?

Note to SCIAC: Play somebody and beat somebody.

Further note to SCIAC: You still have POY Josiah Brensdal's name spelled wrong in the men's all-conference awards. And you still have POY Makenzie Brandon listed as a junior rather than a senior in the women's all-conference awards.

Really, though, what can you expect from a conference which is located in the Sunset Blvd Mailboxes Postal Center:

                   
      Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
7119 W. Sunset Boulevard #258, Los Angeles, California 90046
             Phone 626-993-6807 • Fax 323-544-2233

OxyBob

RFB

Quote from: OxyBob on March 04, 2013, 01:42:03 PM
Quote from: cmsme on March 03, 2013, 09:37:57 AM
But Redlands almost beat Whitworth

Big deal. Did they win?

Note to SCIAC: Play somebody and beat somebody.

Further note to SCIAC: You still have POY Josiah Brensdal's name spelled wrong in the men's all-conference awards. And you still have POY Makenzie Brandon listed as a junior rather than a senior in the women's all-conference awards.

Really, though, what can you expect from a conference which is located in the Sunset Blvd Mailboxes Postal Center:

                   
      Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
7119 W. Sunset Boulevard #258, Los Angeles, California 90046
             Phone 626-993-6807 • Fax 323-544-2233

OxyBob

And that folks is what we call a "shot across the bow". I agree completely with you OB. While I'm happy Redlands is finally building a basketball program under Coach Ducey, it's time for the SCIAC to step up and win some games in the post-season, in basketball and football.

Gray Fox

Only OxyBob would have outed the SCIAC headquarters.

Edd (Kooky) Burns handles the car while they check the mail.

That address isn't near any of the schools.
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