MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Hoops_lover]

Bigcat, welcome to the board and especially welcome your thoughts and opinions.  I loved your take on Chapman.  I agree with much of it: Hamasaki and Zavrsnick are a very talented set of guards and gotta give some credit to James (and Bokosky) to allow Hamasaki to move to a shooting guard.  They have their faults: James and Zavrsnick make errors at the most critical times and Hamasaki sometimes is not aggressive enough.  Bigcat, you are right, let the guards play especially James and Hamasaki because they will look to set up their teammates.  Zavrsnick and Jordan Young are not the best at creating their own shot, but as catch and shoot, they are deadly.  The Chapman offense, sticking a low post where a guard can drive to the bucket is taking away what the guards do best PENETRATE.  you have 35 seconds to shoot the ball and the driving lane is blocked by a Chapman post player most of the time.  If the post player doesn't get it, then he should move opposite/away maybe to the short corner or to the free throw line. 
I also agree the plays are robotic, but so are some other teams plays.  The problem with Chapman is the guys DO NOT know how to set a pick and the guys DO NOT know how to rub their man off of it.  THIS IS THE STAFF'S fault for not emphasizing this.  I think this team sets half-ass screens and cuts half-ass too.
Like Bigcat said and I've said in the past posts, their weakside/help defense is not good, although in the Oxy game, the guards took three charges.  Where are the bigs to protect the basket.  Maybe Chapman should try a zone...2-3 works for Syracuse or think about switching or maybe talking more???
Coaching.....I think what Bigcat meant by "high school girls teams" (could've used a better term) was hat Chapman now has to play 16 SCIAC games and find other teams to fill out the schedule.  Prior to joining the SCIAC it was reversed.  Bokosky now has to coach against SCIAC teams/coaches (8-8 last year) and lost his top assistant Wheatley when school started.  Is he up against it???  No adjustments were made against Oxy's press until the lead was cut down from 15 to 5 points.  If the coaches bother to look at tape or watch the pair of games Oxy played at chapman in December, they would have seen that you go right up the middle on Oxy and press is neutralized.
If Chapman could play with the energy that La Verne plays with, this team could be D# ranked and would give CMC, PP and Cal Lu a run for their money.  Again I agree that this is the coaching staff's fault for allowing this.  Last year's team had some issues and that was the staff's fault.  Is it happening again??
Tonight they play at Cal Lu. A loss here and Chapman is going to have to play near perfect basketball to qualify for the 4th spot. 

[OxyBob]

If Hamasaki or Zavrsnick had some more muscle on them they would be playing in a better league than the SCIAC

If (Fill in the blank SCIAC player) had (Fill in the blank missing skill) they would be playing in a better league than the SCIAC...But they don't. Hence they are in the SCIAC...

They must give a course in counterfactual reasoning at Chapman.

OxyBob

[Bigcat]

If Hamasaki or Zavrsnick had some more muscle on them they would be playing in a better league than the SCIAC

If (Fill in the blank SCIAC player) had (Fill in the blank missing skill) they would be playing in a better league than the SCIAC...But they don't. Hence they are in the SCIAC...

They must give a course in counterfactual reasoning at Chapman.

OxyBob

My point was that the two guys are very talented, however, could probably use some extra time in the weight room.

[Bigcat]

Like Bigcat said and I've said in the past posts, their weakside/help defense is not good, although in the Oxy game, the guards took three charges.  Where are the bigs to protect the basket.  Maybe Chapman should try a zone...2-3 works for Syracuse or think about switching or maybe talking more???

If you or anyone is going to be at the Cal Lu game tonight, I would love to get your take on it.
I think a 2-3 could work in some situations. The guards are quick enough to defend the perimeter, however, I don't think they could do it with a lineup that has Zavrsnick, Hamasaki, and James in it simply because of the size they would be giving up. I think it would definitely be worth a shot when a bigger guy like Jordan Young comes in off the bench.

I am a huge Coach K fan, and I think the makeup of this Chapman is similar to that of Duke this year (No OxyBob, I am not implying that Chapman is in any way, shape, or form on the same level as Duke). However, both these teams lack a true scoring big and are a little undersized, and rely on the athleticism and shooting ability of their guards to score. Duke brings their bigs all the way out to the perimeter and  then sets a high ball screen that allows Quinn Cook to attack the basket, and then surrounds him with shooters like Sulimon, Jabari Parker, and Rodney Hood, who can also attack of the catch. This causes opposing teams guards to play off the ball more to stop dribble penetration. That kind of spacing either frees up the paint or leaves shooters open. This makes them a nightmare to guard on offense. 

[OxyBob]

I think the makeup of this Chapman is similar to that of Duke this year 

I believe that is the first time in recorded human history that Chapman basketball and Duke basketball have been mentioned in the same sentence, although Jabari Parker could use some extra time in the weight room before he declares for the NBA draft.

OxyBob

[Bigcat]

I think the makeup of this Chapman is similar to that of Duke this year 

I believe that is the first time in recorded human history that Chapman basketball and Duke basketball have been mentioned in the same sentence, although Jabari Parker could use some extra time in the weight room before he declares for the NBA draft.

OxyBob

OxyBob do you ever make insightful comments on this board, or are you just on here to be a smartass?
 

[dahlby]

SCIAC action tonight at Cal Lu had Chapman overcoming an 11 point halftime CLU lead to pull out an 86-82 OT victory.
Other action saw ULV take Oxy 61-58
Whittier over Redlands 86-75
PP over Caltech 84-63

Looks like 6 teams vying for the final 2 playoff spots.

[OxyBob]

Eyewitness report from La Verne:

La Verne 61, Oxy 58

Oxy let a road win get away. The Tigers led 51-37 with less than 8 minutes left, and led 58-52 with 2:25 to go, but the Leopards outscored Oxy 9-0 to end the game. A win would have given Oxy a 2-game sweep and the tiebreaker with ULV.

For Oxy, Kris Montoya and Ty Cobb each scored 13, and Juwan Rice and Spencer Levy each had 11. For La Verne, Ronn See scored 15, Weston Newell had 13, and Khaneal Mason scored 10.

Oxy is idle this Saturday, and has a must-win home game against CLU on Jan. 29.

OxyBob do you ever make insightful comments on this board, or are you just on here to be a smartass? 

Funny coming from a guy who bags on the Chapman coach and calls him names, bags on the Chapman players, and says that the team has no heart and pride. How insightful.

OxyBob

[Pat Coleman]

Eyewitness report from La Verne:

La Verne 61, Oxy 58

Oxy let a road win get away. The Tigers led 51-37 with less than 8 minutes left, and led 58-52 with 2:25 to go, but the Leopards outscored Oxy 9-0 to end the game. A win would have given Oxy a 2-game sweep and the tiebreaker with ULV.

For Oxy, Kris Montoya and Ty Cobb each scored 13, and Juwan Rice and Spencer Levy each had 11. For La Verne, Ronn See scored 15, Weston Newell had 13, and Khaneal Mason scored 10.

Oxy is idle this Saturday, and has a must-win home game against CLU on Jan. 29.

OxyBob do you ever make insightful comments on this board, or are you just on here to be a smartass? 

Funny coming from a guy who bags on the Chapman coach and calls him names, bags on the Chapman players, and says that the team has no heart and pride. How insightful.

OxyBob

Funny but not so off the mark of late ...

[OxyBob]

OxyBob do you ever make insightful comments on this board, or are you just on here to be a smartass? 

Funny coming from a guy who bags on the Chapman coach and calls him names, bags on the Chapman players, and says that the team has no heart and pride. How insightful.

Funny but not so off the mark of late ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl4SRVXgGiI

OxyBob

[dahlby]

OK...gotta give you some love for that one. Plus K for you!!!!!

[Hoops_lover]

OxyBob, I now understand why you do not acknowledge Chapman into SCIAC  .  I don't have a problem with it and don't you agree that we are better people when we understand each other?  Loved the YouTube link....Sammy Davis Jr. one of the greatest entertainers EVER!
Saw most of the game last night, there were at lot of fouls called; 32 on Chapman and 22 on Cal Lu.  Give some credit to Powdrill for attacking the bucket BUT the refs were anticipating fouls when the Chapman players definitely established verticality.  Contact is going to be made, but if there's no advantage/disadvantage a no call is the best call.
To be succinct, Cal Lu could have blown Chapman out of the gym in the first half, but they did not shoot well from the floor and Hamasaki was in foul trouble.  Guts to Bokosky (and smarts to Hamasaki for playing aggressive but not committing another foul) to put him back in the game which seemed to energize the team.  The second half play of James, Zavrsnick, Joyce, Justin Young and the Dragovich brothers, especially the younger bro Davis, chopped a 12 point Cal Lu lead down to 1 with about 4 1/2 minutes to go and that's when Hamasaki took over.  He scored 16 on jumpers and acrobatic lay-ups and a bunch of free throws.  More importantly, He fouled Cal Lu's Arik Smith out the game in overtime which left Powdrill as the only consistent scoring threat.  BTW: Nick Dragovich along with help side defense in the 2nd half limited Powdrill to one bucket.  In the other two OT losses, Chapman could not make free throws to seal the win....this time they did.  They almost gave it away when Zavrsnick, inbounding the ball on the Cal Lu side of the court and up two points, threw it away and Chapman had TWO TIMEOUTS left. 

[elfinley]

Being that many of you that are not in practices everyday with any of these teams you may be being unfair?

Big Cat calling Bokosky an ass? What coach in the SCIAC does not intense with his players. You compared Chapman to Duke? You do know that your beloved coach K drops as many F bombs as any other coach in America. Does that make him and many other college coaches an ass as well?

As for the guards, they are just undersized, that's all. Granted they are smaller than most guards in the SCIAC, but that is not a reflection and their time spent in the weight room. James and Zavrsnick look like they have spent some time in the weight room, SCIAC is just bigger.

Now, CU has their share of issues just like every other team in the SCIAC, but Big Cat for you to say the things you say make you sounds like your'e pissed because your son could not make their team. Too be undersized, inconsistent post play, and defensive help side problems, along with injuries they had to deal with(Both Youngs, Atwater, a promising freshman post Fidelibus, and the daily beatings those undersized guards take), considering they are 4-4 in the race for a postseason spot after a overtime win at Cal LU(Their 3rd overtime game in a week and a half), those players and Bokosky are doing alright.

[OxyBob]

one of the greatest entertainers EVER!

Thank you. Nice to know I am appreciated by someone around here.

OxyBob

[Gray Fox]

OxyBob do you ever make insightful comments on this board, or are you just on here to be a smartass?

YES

FYI;  He is a great color man when he has had a chance on SCIAC broadcasts.