MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[bearcatsfan3]

Gentlemen, as a Willamette fan, I am obviously not on Blackhawks level as a UPS advocate...however, I am interested in hearing if any teams in your league play the type of style UPS does, and how you think either of your two schools matchup against the full court pressure UPS dishes out...

Oxy's game against Whitworth was a one-point decision as well wasn't it? And Lance Pecht, the NWC's POY from Whitworth, apparently played through that game with an injury...now, I am not saying that win by the Tigers wasn't impressive, but Whitworth and UPS are two different animals (style of play, personnel, etc) and in TACOMA, UPS is very, very good (seems their pressure amps up about 5 levels, and their shooting is much better, as is for most teams at home)...

As for CMS, the only real comparisons any of us NWCers have is their losses the past two years to GFox, Pacific and at home to Willamette...none of those teams made the post season (Fox finishing 4th, Pacific 7th in the NWC this year, and Willamette 5th a year ago)...has their personnel from the Willamette loss changed that much? I have no idea, but I do know that WU team lost at UPS by 25, and the Fox/Pacific duos that beat them this year lost by a combined 27...

Not knocking your teams, just looking at the only real comparisons we have between the teams...looking on this site, it looks like the two leagues battled fairly closely this year, NWC coming out on top 6 wins to 4...

[bearcatsfan3]

OB,

"I believe that is known as home court advantage"

and I belive I said "which is true for most teams at home", especially ones that have lost 1 time in their gym in the past 3 years.

"Oxy and CMS are two different animals. Not knocking your team of course."

By this, do you mean they are as completely opposite in that one is a relentless, full court attack, three point shooting, individual one-on-on isolation team vs. another that is deliberate in running a number of half court sets for a 7-8 man rotation...because if so, Oxy/CMS would be very similar to the differences between Whitworth/UPS...if not, maybe you were just taking a swipe at my team for some unknown reason...BTW, not once did I claim WU's destruction of two of your worst teams was worth talking about...

If you read through my post, you'd realize I was looking for a comparison between Redlands style and UPS, and some talk about how each of your representatives in the tournament did against each...or some thoughts about how whether one or the other was best suited for a trip to Tacoma for the "old college try."  (I would guess you would say CMS, as Oxy gave up some ungodly numbers to Redlands and Mazarei(sp?))

Maybe my friend BHawks tainted the SCIAC folks approach to dealing with us NWCers...we're not all as "enthusiastic" as he is...some of us would enjoy a breakdown of two teams we haven't seen...

[Stags4Life]

Enough of this "they" beat "them" and they beat them.  Those debates have been  going on for years and they never predict that much.  Team playing style, health, home court, momentum, and team play mean alot more than "we" beat "them" and "they" lost to "them." So lets just wait till Saturday and then you can make your argument that UPS is dominant over the SCIAC or that the SCIAC is alot better than everyone thinks.

Answering someone's question, CMS is a very different team from last year's Willamette loss squad, returning 2 starters from that team and also their rotation and bench is completely different than it was during the Pacific and George Fox losses.  Also, those losses occurred very earlier in the season before this CMS team had found its offensive identity and its defensive cohesiveness and intensity.  They are a far better team than they were then, which is probably the case for most teams, but most especially for CMS if you loook at their early season performance and then their wins over two top NAIA teams and then into SCIAC play. 

Let's hope for a great game on Saturday.

--Stags4Life

[Sagecat32]

For the record:

Cal Tech lost in overtime to Whittier.
Whittier beat Pomona-Pitzer.
Pomona-Pitzer beat Whitworth.
Whitworth beat UPS.
UPS beat UC Riverside.
UC Riverside beat Univeristy of Pacific.
UOP beat Texas A&M.
Texas A&M beat Nebraska.
Nebraska beat Marquette.
Marquette beat Georgetown.
Georgetown beat #1 Duke.

And thats why they play the games...

[Loggerville]

For the record:

Cal Tech lost in overtime to Whittier.
Whittier beat Pomona-Pitzer.
Pomona-Pitzer beat Whitworth.
Whitworth beat UPS.
UPS beat UC Riverside.
UC Riverside beat Univeristy of Pacific.
UOP beat Texas A&M.
Texas A&M beat Nebraska.
Nebraska beat Marquette.
Marquette beat Georgetown.
Georgetown beat #1 Duke.

And thats why they play the games...

that might be the best damn post I've seen today!  Great work SageCat32, point is well taken.  Aside from talk of who played who and who won over what team that looks nothing like it did early in the season, can some tell me if there is to be a web cast of the game Thursday night?  Good luck to both squads.

[sciacguru]

Dang Sagecat..you beat me to the punch!!  Great Post!!
Just needed to add that "My Dad can beat up your Dad!"

Good luck to SCIAC at UPS!!

[OxyFan21]

Loggerville,

I don't think (almost certain) that there will  be a video webcast of the game.

You can, however, listen to www.oxybroadcast.com or it could be linked through this site as well.

 

[TeeDub]

If you read through my post, you'd realize I was looking for a comparison between Redlands style and UPS, and some talk about how each of your representatives in the tournament did against each...or some thoughts about how whether one or the other was best suited for a trip to Tacoma for the "old college try."  (I would guess you would say CMS, as Oxy gave up some ungodly numbers to Redlands and Mazarei(sp?))

If you are comparing your UPS to Redlands, then the SCIAC rep is in better shape than I thought....

[OXY Oswald]

For the record:

Cal Tech lost in overtime to Whittier.
Whittier beat Pomona-Pitzer.
Pomona-Pitzer beat Whitworth.
Whitworth beat UPS.
UPS beat UC Riverside.
UC Riverside beat Univeristy of Pacific.
UOP beat Texas A&M.
Texas A&M beat Nebraska.
Nebraska beat Marquette.
Marquette beat Georgetown.
Georgetown beat #1 Duke.

And thats why they play the games...

I love the post! Gave me a good laugh.

[Stags4Life]

For the record:

Cal Tech lost in overtime to Whittier.
Whittier beat Pomona-Pitzer.
Pomona-Pitzer beat Whitworth.
Whitworth beat UPS.
UPS beat UC Riverside.
UC Riverside beat Univeristy of Pacific.
UOP beat Texas A&M.
Texas A&M beat Nebraska.
Nebraska beat Marquette.
Marquette beat Georgetown.
Georgetown beat #1 Duke.

And thats why they play the games...

Great Stuff Sagecat32!  That is actually the point I tried to get across with my explanation, but those results smash the point across. Thanks.

--Stags4Life

[tigersports]

I wish I could find my link from my letter to the editor at the World Champion (you Healy fans will know of what I speak) in '03 that had Oxy number 1 based on their win over Fullteron.  Great post. 

Yes, we will broadcast the game at www.oxybroadcast.com. 

[Loggerville]

If you are comparing your UPS to Redlands, then the SCIAC rep is in better shape than I thought....

pretty sure bcf3 wasn't comparing Redlands to UPS....very different styles from what I understand of what Redlands is running.  The Loggers will defend hard, play 94 feet, and run the shot clock when the situation calls for it.

Thanks for the updates on the web radio cast to those that provided them.

[fosheezie]

Okay, let me clear up a couple of issues....Yes, it is I The Fosheezie...alright I stole it from those NFL guys from THE Ohio St. University.  But it sounds like some authority since I still get a negative 1 karma from Patricia and G-Spot .

As for GD, Ricky Vaughn, we go way back, I am very, very close to the Cal Lu coaching staff. Not as close as those imbreeders up in Tacoma,  but its all for fun, cuz I know they check out what you SKIZAC Psychos write.  "Throw em da heater Ricky"

Much love for my boyz WCW and blackhawks, but I must change my prediction.  I am changing sides and actually rooting for the Tigers.  I just think they have a better shot and knockin' off those cocky Wood Spankers up in Tacoma.  So let's feed em a big fat s***burger, whether CMS or Oxy and build some cred for the SSSSSCIZAK!   

[tigersports]

RRRIIIIIGGGHHHHTTTTT!

[OxyFan21]

Pat,
I have a question...if things fall right (for my perspective, anyways) for the Tigers and they manage to get out of the 1st weekend, and a bunch of other things go right, could there possibly be a regional @ Illinois Weslyan or perhaps UW-Whitewater?  I mean, I would think those two schools would meet whatever criteria the NCAA has for Regionals?

I had a dream last night that I was gassing up my car to head to one of those two places...It could be just a dream, but I'm just wondering.