MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sciacguru]

Remember, too, since you seem to not realize this: Mazarei and Taylor/Betty were never in competition with each other. Frontcourt and backcourt are voted on separately. Where one is in relation to the others is not a reflection of their comparative value. There are more good frontcourt players in the West Region this year than backcourt players.

You are absolutely right......I didnt realize this......................

.....then how does Mazarei get ahead of Curtiss, the leading scorer for an ELITE 8 team at the guard position??

[WestCoastWhiner]

OxyBob, to the extent there are any results on the All-Region teams that don't make sense we only have to look at our SIDs.  Someone at Redlands was working hard on that guy's behalf.  Then again, maybe his dropping 57 on the Tigers at the Rock was enough to get that guy the 1st team all-region votes.   Either the guy is just that good or Oxy's guards defend that poorly.    

After watching the Oxy - PLU game I too wonder how Betty could have made it over McVey.  Betty had an unbelieveable 1st half against him but then McVey simply owned Betty in the second half.  Betty got in some foul trouble but it was clear that with the game on the line, which of those guys made the mental decision to step up.  McVey would have gotten my vote.   If Betty makes a decision to put the effort in that McVey does on the glass, he will be a 1st team all-america next year.

The beauty of this year is that everyone in the SCIAC got to see what I have been talking about for years on this thread: Salem is not a far-fetched dream.  Oxy beats Amherst, Final 4 team.  Oxy loses close one at PLU, who was within a couple of minutes and a few missed jumpers away from the Final Four.

A couple of more players for some of our teams and we can have several teams capable of making deep runs.  

[RFB]

No doubt about being a hater. Must be the 57 points Mazarai dropped on Oxy at Ghetto Rock.

[Pat Coleman]

.....then how does Mazarei get ahead of Curtiss, the leading scorer for an ELITE 8 team at the guard position??

Probably does have something to do with what the previous posters are saying.

[sciacguru]

And the SID's are great judges of talent.  They dont even watch the games.  They are to busy with their nose in the computer during the games, imputting stats from what their spotter is saying.  They are basing everything on what the stat sheet says, and not what impact that player has on the game or for his team.  Like I said, you take Amir off Redlands...they are still a 6th place team.  You take Curtiss off UPS (since we need to stick with guards) they dont win conference, dont make playoffs and they certainly dont go to the ELITE 8, because he did so much more than just score....that guy was the heart and soul of that UPS squad......something that doesnt show up in a stat sheet.

And I dont care what is said about positions....if you are an MVP of a conference, and the best player on a conf. champion, and is as versatile (leading the team in scoring/rebounding) as Taylor is....that guy should be 1st team all-region....not someone that played on a 6th place SCIAC team.

I guess the 1st team all-region guard position should be reserved every year for the leading scorer of the Redlands system.

[RFB]

Whiners

[sciacguru]

Amir was a huge difference maker.....

Redlands 5-9 in SCIAC.....9-15 overall

Jordan Carlson for D3 player of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RFB]

hater+whiner= sciacguru

[sciacguru]

Amir making 1st team all-West Region
        -funny

hater+whiner= sciacguru

        -clever

Redlands not making it out of 6th place for the last 7 years
        -priceless

p.s. How is the Bulldog FB program doing?

[RFB]

Hey, I agree about Redlands hoops. Redlands will be down until Coach Smith hangs it up. I just think it is funny how much you're bitching about Mazarei making first team.

Redlands football is in good hands, trust me. I played there in the 90's when we owned the conference. They will be back on top real soon.

[Liger Hoops]

I played there in the 90's when we owned the conference. They will be back on top real soon.

Congrats on being that guy who always talks about his old program and how good they were when he played ... I can't wait to do the same 


Kudos to Betty and Taylor for making All-Region in a traditional system. Of course Mazarai lit up the Tigers and other teams but first team is a stretch. I wouldn't have been so shocked if Taylor or Betty (I'm sure 95% of this board would say Taylor) was on the 1st team and Mazarai dropped to the 2nd or 3rd team. Regardless, it's nice to see 3 players from the SCIAC get honored.

[RFB]

Sorry man, just stating the facts about Redlands football. It's nice to know a down year at Redlands is 5-4 and the rest of the conference and it's fans think the program is in shambles. But the reality is Redlands has as many SCIAC conference titles as Oxy does since 2000. Redlands will be back.

[tigersports]

Whiner, you are right on about McVey.  He would've been MVP of SCIAC.  His play in half 2 was THE reason UPS won that game.  Put backs, tough inside hoops, etc., was critical to that win.  Oxy brought their game that night and could (not necessarily should) have won it.  The turning point was being up 73-72, turning the ball over 3 straight times and being behind 78-73.  It was Kiki's missed layup against Dr. D all over again.

You're also right about the program.  They are not far away and CMS would've represented just as well up there.  League has to keep up the 'mo.

RFB, don't know if you're new to the board, but let's raise the level of discourse to something that grads and fans of these fine institutions are accustomed.  The "Ghetto" comment was, at best, extremely ill-informed, especially given that there are probably five African-American, non-Oxy students within a three mile radius of campus.

[diehardfan]

The "Ghetto" comment was, at best, extremely ill-informed, especially given that there are probably five African-American, non-Oxy students within a three mile radius of campus.

Normally I would have thrilled that there was finally a post on this board, but... What is up with associating the ghetto with African Americans? Aside from the fact that it is historically inaccurate, it's also, well, very prejudiced to assume all poor people who would live in city slums are black.

[sciacguru]

but let's raise the level of discourse to something that grads and fans of these fine institutions are accustomed. 

diehard....I am right there with you.  But I liked this part of the quote better.

I guess Oxy fans are used to those levels of discourse.

That may drop the karma points down a bit!