MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Howlinwolf]

My bad. Final was 72-63, not 71-62.

[scandihoovian]

I caught part of the first ever men's game in the new Gilbert center at CLU last night - nice turnout on hand for the opener against La Sierra (which I didn't realize is on their way to becoming an independent D3)

Kind of a typical season opener with the usual rough patches.  Once the Kingsmen settled in to playing the full regulation distance in a home game they pulled steadily ahead in the second half. 

Lots of new faces for CLU with a few solid returners, it will be fun to watch them come together as a team over the course of the season.

Glad the Tigers gave the Tommies a run, although it's too bad it couldn't be a true home game.

[sciacguru]

>>Looks like the Kingsmen had a quite a bit of roster turnover. Acerboni will have to step up and take over the lead.<<

The Kingsmen return 4 starters.  Acerboni, Inniss, Miller, and Bush.  Pedden came off the bench the first game...but started most of last year.

[scandihoovian]

>>Looks like the Kingsmen had a quite a bit of roster turnover. Acerboni will have to step up and take over the lead.<<

The Kingsmen return 4 starters.  Acerboni, Inniss, Miller, and Bush.  Pedden came off the bench the first game...but started most of last year.

Good point Guru - there are many new faces, but the Kingsmen do return those four starters, of whom Bush is the only senior.  Pedden looked good off the bench Saturday, and many of the freshmen look solid, especially Meier.  I'm looking forward to the start of conference play so we can see how they stack up against SCIAC competition.

[scandihoovian]

Bob-

Players named Lepiashinski only come along once every generation - they must be treasured for as long as possible 

Moreover, I bet the CLU SID is leaving that photo, taken in the old gym, up as long as possible to induce combat flashbacks amongst our conference foes 

[sciacguru]

>>there are many new faces, but the Kingsmen do return those four starters, of whom Bush is the only senior.<<

Interesting that CLU still has a picture of Sergei Lepiashinski prominently displayed on the basketball homepage.

OxyBob

Does Finn Rebasso still play for OXY??  He is still on the opening Athletic page.

[sciacguru]

sciacguru:

>>Does Finn Rebasso still play for OXY??  He is still on the opening Athletic page.<<

Are you referring to Finn Rebassoo, the only four-time first team all-SCIAC basketball player in league history? Did you mean Finn Rebassoo, the 2002-2003 SCIAC Player of the Year? That Finn Rebassoo?

OxyBob

I thought you might spell your own son's name correctly.....I was talking about Rebasso.............not Rebassoo....I dont know who that is.  And the guy on your link looks a lot like Song Cun (Who we all know was the real SCIAC MVP)....not Rebasso.  Next time have your presentation complete.

[Sagecat32]

This is the last hurrah for the freak show...

Between the end of the Smith era and the continued improvement at Cal Tech it doesn't seem like there'll be as many breathers on the Conference schedule as there used to be...

Us Redlands alums can't wait until the Gary Smith era comes to a close. Time for some new blood to lead the Dawgs. Shouldn't be long before a SCIAC hoops title comes to Redlands.

I don't post here very often, but I had to say something about the Redlands hoops situation.  I think its a sad indication of where division 3 athletics are heading when a man who has devoted 40 years of his life to the University of Redlands and the basketball program is being forced out because he hasn't won a conference championship in a while.  Gary Smith is a fantastic coach and an even better person.  He represents that University with the utmost class, and has for 40 years.  This is Division 3, not Division 1.  There are no sneaker deals or TV contracts if you win a SCIAC title.  Your ticket sales aren't going to go up with "new blood leading the Dawgs".  I can understand the frustration with the lack of conference success in recent seasons, but after all that Gary Smith has done for that school, he should be honored and thanked, not ridiculed and forced out.

[scandihoovian]

Did someone say on here that Smith is being forced out?  If so, I missed it...

I think this board has always been in agreement that Smith is a quality guy who has served Redlands well over a long period of time.  The criticism of Smith on this board stems from the fact that some posters (myself included) think the experiment with the system went on far too long, to the point where it's gotten gimmicky.

[DIIIghetto]

SageChick,

I have not heard anything about Coach Smith being forced out.  I think maybe you are reading into some posts here from folks who are Redlands supporters who are trying to look at the bright side of his retiring.  I would bet that with his legacy, the Redlands Admin let him go out exactly how and when he wanted to go out. 

I am not yet prepared to give my predictions and need to look a little more into the rumor of Kats bringing in a guy who some are already saying is the front runner in front of Betty for SCIAC MVP. 

[pomonaalum]

Apparently, Pomona has a transfer from NC State by the name of Chris McCoy.  Not sure if he was on scholarship or a walk-on at NCSt, but saw very little playing time there.  Originally from Trinity HS in Louisville, KY - one of the sports powers in that city (Brian Brohm's alma mater) 

McCoy scored 32 in his Sagehen debut, a win against Vanguard.

[tigersports]

McCoy scored 32 in his Sagehen debut, a win against Vanguard.

Ruh-roh!

--B. Newhall, K. Scalmanini

[pomonaalum]

Learning a little more about McCoy.  6'5 guard, invited to walk-on at NC St.  Appeared in 13 games over 2 seasons for the 'Pack, scored a total of 4 points.
Will get a chance to see him and the rest of the Pomona team play when take part in the Lopata Classic at Wash U in a couple weeks.

[TeeDub]

Responding to Sagecat32:

I'm sure Gary Smith is a fine coach and a good man, etc. etc. That's not what we're talking about.

The "Grinnell System" used by Redlands is a mockery of basketball. It's all smoke-and-mirrors used to create interest in a team that is not very good. The only reason Redlands gets any attention at all is because the Bulldogs are a novelty act. Sorry, but that's the truth.

The name of the game is winning, and Redlands hasn't won squat as the Traveling Freak Show. They haven't finished higher than 4th in the conference since the 1991-1992 season, and haven't won the conference since they were tri-champs in 1989-1990.

If you want to watch a team that plays up-tempo successfully, check out Puget Sound (though it'll be interesting to see how Justin Lunt does replacing Eric Bridgeland). Everything the Loggers do is done fast, and they make their opponents play at their pace. They constantly press, but they don't just give up the lay-up like Redlands does. It's tough to score on Puget Sound, again unlike Redlands. Also, unlike Redlands, the Loggers win. If they played each other, UPS would destroy Redlands.

Coach Smith's act wore out long ago. As Paul Simon said, "He's a one trick pony, one trick is all that horse can do." Personally I look forward to a new coach at Redlands, and a new direction for the team.

OxyBob

OB,

Nice research, nice points...but I do find it interesting that the SCIAC purists are not also critical of some of the more traditional styles.  For example, over the past three years Redlands does have a unenviable record of 16-26 in conference play and 37-37 overall, while Whittier is 16-26 and 37-38 and Laverne is 19-23 and 39-35 over that same period.

I get that you don't like the SYSTEM style (especially after it took your team out of contention for a conference title last year), but recognize that other traditional styles have struggled just as well.

[TeeDub]

McCoy scored 32 in his Sagehen debut, a win against Vanguard.

Ruh-roh!

--B. Newhall, K. Scalmanini

This has to be one of my favorite posts ever!