MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DIIIghetto]

I would think that the loss by Wooster to Cal Baptist helps CMS in the national relevance debate.  It reminds the rest of the country, GS excluded, about how tough the GSAC is.  Cal Baptist easily could finish 3 or 4 in that conference.  I don't want to make too much out of it because each game is different but Oxy and CMS have played teams well who have either beaten or lost to Cal Baptist by the same margin Wooster did.  That doesn't matter for much, only to say that SCIAC teams at the top can give GSAC teams competitive games, much like Wooster did.  I'm not quite sure how PP played Biola close and got absolutely destroyed by Wooster at home, unless Biola is down - which would be surprising.  Reports I got were that PP was seriously outmatched from the opening tip and went down huge immediately.  Hard to understand that happening on the home floor of Kats, even if nobody but parents were in the crowd.   

WL alum.  Hope your squad is bringing out the dance squad to Cal tech.  That would certainly quadruple attendance from the Beaver students, even during break.  Sounds like you guys have a good team.  Should be a good game.  Oxy is still a big question mark for the conference this season.  The Cal tech tournament will serve as a significant measuring stick for the Tigers.  Those of us who saw Oxy play your conference rival a couple of years ago in the tourney have had a lingering question: has your guard recovered from his broken ankle by Song? We were worried about that guy and want him to know that he is in good company -  Song is breaking ankles playing professionally in Germany. 

Having said that, enjoy your trip out to LA.  Tell the boys to pack some t-shirts.   

[WLCALUM83]

I take it you're referring to the 2003 matchup in which Oxy knocked off Aurora 80-61. Wisconsin Lutheran and Aurora weren't in the same conference until just this season. This poster would hope the injured player you referred to is doing OK. (We're talking some 3 1/2 years after the fact--it would have had to have been one heck of a blow or series of blows for the player not to have recovered by now). 

[Gregory Sager]

I would think that the loss by Wooster to Cal Baptist helps CMS in the national relevance debate.  It reminds the rest of the country, GS excluded, about how tough the GSAC is.

Exactly.

Those of us who saw Oxy play your conference rival a couple of years ago in the tourney have had a lingering question: has your guard recovered from his broken ankle by Song? We were worried about that guy and want him to know that he is in good company

Wow. Talk about a reach. 

[Browneagle64]

If all fingers point to a good match up tonight between the tigers and Wisconsin Lutheran, i sure hope that we all learn that Oxy is for real. Although, it sounds like there might be some doubt, the boys in Orange and black will do everything possible to leave all doubts on the hardwood floor. Not only that i am sure the tigers are coming in confident after playing against a decent Defense that Chapman had been using against other good teams. In saying that, I hope that for those of you who are attending the game at Cal Tech will witness an up and coming tiger team will beat a lot of SCIAc teams this year. Look for Betty, witman, kostic, Fry, pitcher and alexander to be the force of the team during the Cal Tech Tourney. 

[DIIIghetto]

GS, you are right....a reach, but the single most entertaining play I have seen in over 500 D3 games.  Helped that the gym was overflow crowd and Song is 5'7".
Hopefully, someone in the sciac will bring more "moments". 

[Browneagle64]

Bob,

The excitement did get to me. Really thought the game would be this week. Thanks for clearing that up.

[WLCALUM83]

Whatever was ailing in Oxy's game must have been cured. Final:  Oxy 90, Wisconsin Lutheran 63. (This poster's eating crow again). 

[WLCALUM83]

Heck, Caltech may  beat WLC if the Warriors haven't gotten over Oxy's royal shellacking. 

[Pat Coleman]

Ugh -- are you serious about the PA?

[callufan]

I have been associated with California Lutheran University in one repsect or another for over 20 years and have really enjoyed attending all athletic events at CLU.  I also have enjoyed reading the many posts here on D3hoops.  The forum is great, allowing fans to post intelligent responses, and show their enthusiasm for the true student athlete at the Division III level.  I usually bypass the negative comments that are posted by over zealous fans that either have a lack of knowledge or are just too emotional toward thier respective teams.  But I must respond to the latest post(s).

OxyBob......I have truly enjoyed reading all your posts in regards to SCIAC basketball and informing us fans on all the happenings that go along with those teams.  I too, attended the Thrivent tournament at CLU, and was a bit taken back by the PA's unique style (or lack there of).  But like you normally do.....I did a little research to find out why this was happening.

After speaking with the administrator on duty (Asst AD), the regular announcer was out of town due to the Christmas break.....as he is a student.  The young man who was announcing, also an undergraduate student, was asked to be the replacement on very short notice.  Due to his lack of experience (this was his first time), the Asst AD asked that he keep it simple until he felt more comfortable with the common responses.

Tonight he did a stellar job for both games.  I left after just a few minutes of the championship game between Bethany and Willamette....but his announcing for the CLU/MSOE game was very good and professional.

Oxybob..you seem to be a very passionate poster, but in turn, seem to be very critical as well.  I am sorry that CLU did not offer the perfect setting for you to watch a basketball game.  I do know that the young men and women that are working the events are trying their absolute best, and would very much like to emulate the most professional atmosphere possible.  I just wish you would have done your normal research before lambasting the young man.

Best of luck to all the SCIAC teams.  Happy New Year to all.

[Pat Coleman]

As a former athletic administrator, I would not have put someone behind the mic and told them to do so little. It only takes about five minutes of instruction to train someone to do the bare minimum. Like it or not, the PA announcer is the voice of your athletic department during those games and that is what people take away from the event.

Research isn't necessary, just observation. After a couple of minutes of warmup it should not have been too much to ask for the PA announcer to find a name on a sheet and announce it. Otherwise, yes, what's the point of restating the obvious -- the number of the person who scored is plain to anyone watching.

OxyBob may be outspoken, but he's correct here.

[sciacguru]

Otherwise, yes, what's the point of restating the obvious.......

Kind of like signing your handle at the end of every post, when its already posted in the upper left corner.

[WLCALUM83]

MSOE had an 8-2 record going into that weekend tournament. If that squad wasn't on provisional status in NathCon, it would be right up there with Aurora and all the other leaders. The Raiders very well should have made the NCAA tournament last season. They did beat LMC 2005-06 NCAA tournament rep WLC twice last season.

This poster's .04.


Final just in:  WLC 117, Cal Tech 57. 

[OxyFan21]

Just wanted to verify the Oxy score...

Oxy 78
Williams 65

is what I heard...is that correct?

[Pat Coleman]

It would not surprise me -- Williams doesn't appear to be up to its usual caliber this year and a decent team should handle them on familiar territory.