MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[diehardfan]

I think down in SoCAL you guys have been watching too many laguna beach re-runs.   

I actually didn't even know that was a television show... or is it?  I've heard it's a place, but I've certainly never been there. We roll it conservative at Wheaton.

I don't even know if I can take your claim to talking to the athletic departments seriously, but if so, the actual Oxy basketball program is allocated more? Or just the athletic program in general?

[bucs77]

You can take it as a fact.  And it is the basketball program specifically.  It is not secret information held by only a few.  It is public information if someone wants to find out. 

[Pat Coleman]

Heh, I take a few hours to do my job and all heck breaks loose as the UPS posters find even more HOFers to get under the skin of.

[diehardfan]

Heh, I take a few hours to do my job and all heck breaks loose as the UPS posters find even more HOFers to get under the skin of.

Naah, it takes a lot more than that to get under my skin. I am less sensitive than the boys are.

[sciacguru]

Holy Cow...I go out of town for a few days and I have to catch up on 8 pages of posts!!!!!!  Looks like the Kingsmen battled for a half, but you have to knock down FT's to beat any good team, especially like Oxy, who doesnt turn the ball over.  But starting 4 seniors and one junior vs 2 freshmen, 1 soph., and 2 juniors is a huge advantage.

And for UPS coming down and wanting to play IWU....I think it had more to do with Westmont not wanting to play either UPS or IWU in the first round of their tourney.  I think their 1st round selection of their tourney this year is evidence enough.  UPS, I am sure, really didnt have a choice.

[Browneagle64]

Hey, Buc77 you crack me up when you mentioned that "Hmmmm.....   I just did my research and talked with members of both OXY and Whitworth's athletic dept.  UH OH! oxy has a bigger budget".
If so who did you talk to? I really do want to now where that secret fund is so that we can send our BBall team out of state easily. Maybe with all our money we can charter first class seats on American Airlines and have limos and tons of faithful fans pick the boys up at the gate.
In all seriousness though, The FB team can just get out of state with their own money. Since the team has about 50+ members, our coaching staff finds ways; such as throwning a big golf tourney, putting on high school summer football camps and high school track meets that all FB must work as officals, order to get 1/2 of our money for our budget. Unfortunately, the basketball team has to settle with the same budget that the Oxy mens tennis team gets through out the year.

[Pat Coleman]

From 2005-06:
Occidental MBB budget: $44,028
Whitworth MBB budget: $58,667

These numbers are reported to the federal government each year as part of Title IX.

[littleboymaker]

Given the quality of the NW/SCIAC interaction, I'll add a couple "so what's your point" comments.

I believe CLU goes to Mauii every other year around Thankgiving and usually plays NW League team.  They played Whitworth and Lewis and Clark last November.  That has to be a reasonable chunk of $'s.

As to testorsterone, with 5 natural sons, 5 additional sones, 4 grandsons and ONE GRANDAUGHTER, it's hard to get away from.

OxyBob, if I was smarter, I would have bought you a donut at the Whittier game.

Littleboymaker

[Pat Coleman]

Hmmmm.....   I just did my research and talked with members of both OXY and Whitworth's athletic dept.  UH OH! oxy has a bigger budget.

Spare us your made-up crap. The numbers don't lie.

[diehardfan]

From 2005-06:
Occidental MBB budget: $44,028
Whitworth MBB budget: $58,667

These numbers are reported to the federal government each year as part of Title IX.

Nice... where do those numbers come from? Is it available by PDF from a website? I'd love to look at those at some point in a national sense.

Pay no attention to the geographically-challenged bucs77, who thinks Laguna Beach is Los Angeles

I must admit to lumping all the "beach" towns in the LA area together. But I have an adversion to the entire LA area in general (minus Koreatown food, mmmm... and the Getty which I go to all the time). Thus, most of my free time is spent in San Diego, a fact that my lungs and eyes generally thank me for. I did think Newport Beach was fairly pretty though.

As to testorsterone, with 5 natural sons, 5 additional sons, 4 grandsons and ONE GRANDAUGHTER, it's hard to get away from.

10 sons? Nice, you can get a little hoops 5-on-5 action with that many kids. That would make family get togethers fun. Maybe I should get on that.

[Titan Q]

And for UPS coming down and wanting to play IWU....I think it had more to do with Westmont not wanting to play either UPS or IWU in the first round of their tourney.  I think their 1st round selection of their tourney this year is evidence enough.  UPS, I am sure, really didnt have a choice.

Below is the archive of the WJBC broadcast of the 12/29/05 IWU vs Puget Sound game at Westmont.  If you start the player at 40:55 you will find an interview we taped w/ former UPS coach Bridgeland and played at halftime.

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/archive.php?user=wjbc&event_id=9425


"We heard that they were in the tournament...[Westmont assistant coach] was kind enough to let us in under the stipulation that we'd be able to play Wesleyan in the first round.  We're very excited to have a chance to play another Top 10 team...it's a real good gauge for where we're at."

[bucs77]

Before Pat gets all fat and happy over his research maybe he should know that those numbers are what each team spent in total, not what they are given by the school at the beginning of the year

Get your facts straight

[Sabretooth Tiger]

From 2005-06:
Occidental MBB budget: $44,028
Whitworth MBB budget: $58,667

These numbers are reported to the federal government each year as part of Title IX.

Excellent research, thanks Pat.

[Pat Coleman]

When I worked in athletics I knew that if I DIDN'T spend my allotment, it was going back in the general operating fund. It wasn't like I was going to be able to bank it for the next school year.

If anything, you might overspend your budget rather than drastically underspend it. Certainly you would not underspend it enough to turn a $14,000 shortfall into what you claim it to be.

[bucs77]

what does that have to do with who is given more money to start the year.  That was the topic, that was the question, and if you want to do some real research call each athletic dept. as an interested parent/alumni/donor and ask.  They will tell you.  Like i said it is not secret info.