MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[diehardfan]

Wildcat, play nice, despite our different loyalties we all pretty much like CalTech down here.

On the topic of travel, Illinois Wesleyan is scheduled to play at Occidental next season, so looking forward to meeting some of the fine Oxy posters.  My Titans could be starting 4 or 5 freshmen next year, so hoops may be rough....but  I will enjoy the weather!

The Titans could be starting four or five freshmen next year? So Ron Rose is gonna throw Gilmore, Gant, Morris, Chamernik, Bryant, etc., over the side of the boat? Has the team's radio colorman alerted them to this yet?

Greg, I guess that means that Bob won't be keeping Gilmore in our fantasy keeper league.

Bob, lets be honest, are you really looking forward to meeting Oxy posters? Or are you really just looking forward to catching some golf in December in 70 degree weather.

[Titan Q]

On the topic of travel, Illinois Wesleyan is scheduled to play at Occidental next season, so looking forward to meeting some of the fine Oxy posters.  My Titans could be starting 4 or 5 freshmen next year, so hoops may be rough....but  I will enjoy the weather!

The Titans could be starting four or five freshmen next year? So Ron Rose is gonna throw Gilmore, Gant, Morris, Chamernik, Bryant, etc., over the side of the boat? Has the team's radio colorman alerted them to this yet?

No one is heading overboard, but Ron Rose has a chance to put together a one of those special classes this year where several freshmen will have a legitimate shot at starting.  Still a long way to go there though.  This is that time of year where most future Division III All-Americans still think they are D1 players -- we'll know more in April. 

Either way, the IWU team Oxy gets next December will be very much in program rebuilding mode.  The Titans are staring at about 2-12 in the CCIW this year and will lose one of the best players in the nation.  Ugh.

And of course, April....golf will be part of that trip!

[Gilbert McFinnegan]

Looks like I missed a busy day yesterday, allow me to catch up...

I knew it would not take long for a Hall of Famer to step in and belittle our madness.  Is it an unwritten rule to start discussions that may involve a little lively debate in which some people may want to advocate for the conference/team they follow most closely?  I could see if we were at issue and just speaking nonsense, but it seems like most are sticking to the facts.  Maybe, I will learn once I hit my 5,000 post or so....if I do not get my account shut down first.  Go ahead....bring on the negative karma.....

Sticking to the facts is one thing, doing it into a derogatory manner that makes it very quickly digress into name calling is another thing. That's not sticking to the facts. A "sticking to the facts" post would not be emotionally charged. I can tell you have some latent animosity toward HOFers, so let me assure you that I am by far the most silly of them all. A HOFer stepchild if you will. However, as the resident female, I like to step in every so often and strongly encourage the testosterone to back off to a dull roar so that some serious, interesting debate can take place. Obviously I usually fail, but that doesn't keep me from trying. I'm stubborn like that.

Oh well, if nothing else, at least all the seagull analogies are making me laugh. 

DHF-
Thanks for the testosterone check...I got Entourage Season 1 and 2 for Christmas, so I have been a little outlandish in that regard.  I am not sure if I agree with you about my animosity towards HOFers being latent....I would argue that it is patent  .  If you are looking for reasoning, check out the history on the NWC board, or the quote below this one.

Heh, I take a few hours to do my job and all heck breaks loose as the UPS posters find even more HOFers to get under the skin of.

Pat-
Please at least get the stereotype right....It was not just "UPS" posters this go around.  WW posters definitely had a hand in this run at HOFers. (Based on past dealings, I am sure that this incriminates the entire conference. Correct?)

And for UPS coming down and wanting to play IWU....I think it had more to do with Westmont not wanting to play either UPS or IWU in the first round of their tourney.  I think their 1st round selection of their tourney this year is evidence enough.  UPS, I am sure, really didnt have a choice.

Below is the archive of the WJBC broadcast of the 12/29/05 IWU vs Puget Sound game at Westmont.  If you start the player at 40:55 you will find an interview we taped w/ former UPS coach Bridgeland and played at halftime.

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/archive.php?user=wjbc&event_id=9425


"We heard that they were in the tournament...[Westmont assistant coach] was kind enough to let us in under the stipulation that we'd be able to play Wesleyan in the first round.  We're very excited to have a chance to play another Top 10 team...it's a real good gauge for where we're at."

Titan Q-
Thanks for handling this one.  I never got to tell you congratulations on the season IWU had last year.  Despite the semi-final loss, I still think that IWU had a strong argument for being the best team in the nation last year.  It had to be tough to see that senior class/half of the team go.


SCIAC Board-

Even though the "Blind Sea Gulls," as OB so eloquently labeled us, have infiltrated your board, feel free to travel to the NWC board anytime.  Travel costs are much less and it does not rain on the internet.

[diehardfan]

DHF-
Thanks for the testosterone check...I got Entourage Season 1 and 2 for Christmas, so I have been a little outlandish in that regard.  I am not sure if I agree with you about my animosity towards HOFers being latent....I would argue that it is patent  .  If you are looking for reasoning, check out the history on the NWC board, or the quote below this one.

K+ for your impressive choice of the least commonly used form of the word patent.

I've never heard of Entourage either... are these seriously all TV shows? Am I really that out of the loop?  Oh well, I guess that's what I get for making things like the outdoors and d3sports my primary sources of entertainment.

[TeeDub]

Either way, the IWU team Oxy gets next December will be very much in program rebuilding mode.  The Titans are staring at about 2-12 in the CCIW this year and will lose one of the best players in the nation.  Ugh.

I think 4 of the 5 Oxy starters this year are seniors, so it looks like Oxy may also wear the "rebuilding" title as well.

[Sagecat32]

As a sidebar to the "discussion" going on in here.  I thought the SCIAC'ers would find this info to be interesting.

Here is the breakdown on the NWC and SCIAC in terms of Operating Expenses:

SCIAC:
$44,028-Oxy
$36,175-Claremont
$23,975-Redlands
$22,000-Chapman
$16,262-Cal Lu
$14,507-LaVerne
$14,431-Pamona
$10,400-Whittier

How is Coach Kat ever supposed to win the SCIAC with only $14,431?  Someone should call that AD over at P-P and tell him that if he ever wants to build a SCIAC power then he needs to get Coach Kat some more money...

[tigersports]

Oxy-TFS tonight at www.oxybroadcast.com. 

[bucs77]

oxybob,
    or anyone who knows..... is there any sign or rumor of redlands ever giving up the system in coming years?  They often have talented players and I would think after such a long dry spell as far as playoffs, they (the athletic dept. / the coach)  would think twice about this whole idea.  I haven't looked it up, but has it ever worked? And byt worked I mean did they once get to the final 4 doing this and now believe in it?

I think it kind of cheats the players.

[pineconefan]

Bucs, there was discussion awhile back on this board about the Redlands coach retiring after this season, so it is likely the last year of the system. 

Also, cheats which players?  It allows a higher percentage of players on the roster to at least see some action per game, so that can be argued both ways.

[bucs77]

that is a good point pinecone,

My cheats the players comment was in thinking about 2 things:  First the guys who are averaging those ridiculous stats are always gonna have people take their career stats differently because they play in that system.  second I meant that the system which redlands uses will never work in a national tournament or against the best teams in the country.  I will agree that they beat some teams they shouldn't, but then lose to teams they should beat as well.

[Ralph Turner]

Oxy-Redlands tied at 88 with 4:12 left.

Good webcast for Oxy!

[D O.C.]

Gary Glitter a capella?........
What fun!

I just started catching up on the b ball board and found the Redlands-Occidental game is tied at 80 with 4 minutes left on 1/24/07.
Now I can listen AND go back and enjoy the seagull cracker crack of a couple of days ago.

[D O.C.]

Banked 3 pointer by the throw 'em up M man in crimson and grey and Bulldogs up by 7 with 2 minutes to play.

[Ralph Turner]

Redlands looks like it will pick up the win.  101-96 with 41.5 secs left.

Oxy would be in a 3-way tie with Redlands and Cal Lu

[D O.C.]

Lookit Ralph! Up late...always the fan.
1 point now, Ralph.