MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Redlands by one with 9.1 secs and redlands at the line, shooting 2.  107-106.

Redlands wins, 109-106.

[D O.C.]

That banked 3 pointer was the difference.

Yes, I know every point from the tip-off counts.

[Ralph Turner]

Lookit Ralph! Up late...always the fan.
1 point now, Ralph.

That was a good broadcast.  I wish that I had put the rosters up on the computer so I could follow the swings of the scores better, but the broadcast was good!

[David Collinge]

La Verne edges Cal Tech 58-55.   

[sciac_is_fun]

Looks like they had a crazy game in thousand oaks tonight.  CLU over Pomona, 68-66.  Pomona leads for the entire second half, CLU ties it on their 15th and final 3-pointer with 2 minutes to go, and wins on a Zach Miller bucket with :29.  Knowles misses a jumper with :03. 

Frosh Kyle Knudsen for CLU: 7-10 3pt FG, 25 Pts.

[sciac_is_fun]

for more on that CLU-Pomona game:
http://www.clusports.com/stats/mens_basketball/2006_2007/0124P-P.HTM

[Gregory Sager]

Are you saying that Coe et alia imported snowbird refs for their So Cal sojourn?  They must have a pretty big travel budget for such an extravagence!

Lake Forest coach Chris Conger, who arranged the tournament via long-distance phone calls, also secured local refs for the four games. Since all four teams were from the heartland and all of the refs were from SoCal, there was no home cooking involved for anybody.

[Browneagle64]

Congrats to the Dawgs for pulling out a W and what sounds like another close game. It also sounds like the show did its job when time was ticking and pressure started to build up.

I hope that the boys in Orange and Black rebound from such a close game and from a loss to a revial that you never want to lose to. I hope that this loss adds new fuel to the tigers as they get ready for other teams who want to take them down. In all, i am sure Coach Newhall land Co. will get tigers back on top of the SCIAC soon.

[diehardfan]

(if I may be allowed to whine at this point)

No whining... it makes you sound like a seagull. Just kidding!

Congratulations to Redlands, who until further notice I will refer to as Redlands or UOR or Bulldogs.

Nice. I was going to say something about how that wasn't allowed anymore. But I guess I don't have to.

It was great to get a chance to chat with Jordis Rocks, and always a pleasure to see tigersports. I looked for diehardfan, but there was nary a Wheaton t-shirt in sight.

You were there? Odd. So was I. I wasn't wearing a Wheaton shirt, I was wearing work clothes, you know, cause I came straight from work....

I was going to wait around to meet you Jordis, but it just didn't seem practical given the fact that it was a worknight and I had my 1.5 hr drive ahead of me. I promise I'll do it at some @ Redlands game at some point this season.

[diehardfan]

That was definitely the most enjoyable game I've seen since coming to SoCal. I've seen games between quality teams, the CMS @ Oxy playoff game last year and the Oxy vs St. Thomas game in the fall, but a combination of great crowd support, the back and forth score, the underdog coming out with the win on the away court and some crazy amazing shots and passes, made that one of the best basketball games I've seen in ages. So thanks to the Oxy and Redlands fans and teams for making it that.

I have never been one of those people that hate the frenzied systemesqe teams, though I do like the styles Redlands and Puget Sound play a great deal more than the Grinnell version... it's a lot smarter and more effective and less weird looking, IMHO. Last night was just a case of the system working as it was designed to. A great team goes down to a team that had some serious height disadvantages.... etc. Mazarei is Ridiculous!!! (yes, with a capital R). He would be a good player on many, many teams and get the national accolades he deserved that he may not get at the end of this season just because of the stigma of "system teams have inflated stats. There was the "Hey, lets swish this one while falling down just to look extra cool" shots. Half of the treys Redlands made were NOwhere near the 3-pt line. They weren't even near the NBA 3-pt line. They were closer to half court shots. It was like the Redlands guys consciously thought, "Hmm, why bother trying to get closer to the basket when I know perfectly well that I can swish an uncontested 3-pt shot from half court with my eyes closed." The only time I've ever seen a team do that before is Hanover, a team that has about as opposite a philosophy of Redlands as possible, and has games that are usually more like the 50's-60's. It was fun to watch 3-4 years ago in them, and even more fun to watch a team that shoots so many treys do it. The way that Redlands players drive to the basket and kick it back to teammates for uncontested threes was really... well, beautiful. Redlands is a pretty good passing team. For coaches that don't want to do a systemesque game, and just want their players to be able to do that kickback play effectively, last night's tape might be a good teaching tool.

I'm really curious to see where this puts Oxy in next week's poll. I can see a precipitous drop, or voters might give give them the benefit of the doubt, since Redlands has only lost to one (I believe) DIII team all year.

[scandihoovian]

Just wanted to chime in and credit Redlands for their strong start to conference play.  This is clearly a different bunch of Bulldogs from recent years when they would pull out an unexpected win or two and otherwise be a nonfactor in the conference race.  I am looking forward to seeing them play up at CLU in February.  If CLU can beat CMS at home there's a good chance Oxy, Redlands, and CLU will all be 6-1 at the turn.

Sounds like the CLU-PP game had plenty of excitement, I'm disappointed I missed it.  Nice comeback win for the Kingsmen, looks like Knudsen was hot from the perimeter.  Amazing stat of the game though has to be the 13 total fouls called in the entire game on both teams combined.

Finally - I was really hoping that CalTech could end the streak against ULV.  Maybe they'll fare better in the rematch.  For now though I must suspend cheering for the Beavers for one game, then I'll be back at it....

[Redlands Rick]

Oxy Bob:

I don't hink you provided too much poster board material. Rather, I think that a far more deciding factor was that your Oxy coaches simply don't study enough tape of other UR defeats, combined with the fact that they don't have their players conditioned to the level that they need to be in order to play effectively against "the system."  And your low FT percentage also hurt you (and certainly helped our Dogs).

RR

[Gray Fox]

RR,
Free throws were mentioned in prior Redlands games.  I went to the SCIAC website to see how every team compared by season average to the UR game.  Maybe all that running hurts the free throw percentage.  But the posted stats are still over a week behind, so I didn't pursue it. 

PS - I went to some games here in Dallas over the weekend.  Some of the teams had stats posted almost immediately. 

[Redlands Rick]

GF:

In watching these games out here, it just seems to me that many D3 coaches at this end of the world have not demanded that their players be conditioned to the level they need to be...simple, but true...and that, especially late in games, affects players' execution whose conditioning is not where it needs to be. 

Nor does it seem that a lot of SCIAC coaches do a lot of homework in an attempt to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing players, and then look to take away those players' strengths and exploit their weaknesses, but simply believe that "their system" will win out over the other guys' "system."

RR

[TeeDub]

Oxy Bob:

I don't hink you provided too much poster board material. Rather, I think that a far more deciding factor was that your Oxy coaches simply don't study enough tape of other UR defeats, combined with the fact that they don't have their players conditioned to the level that they need to be in order to play effectively against "the system."  And your low FT percentage also hurt you (and certainly helped our Dogs).

RR

"Not-so-Redlands" Rick

You have a very strange way of showing support for 'your' team.  You have spent your last four or five posts commenting on the reasons Redlands' opponents lost rather than why Redlands has won.  It makes me question how much of a Redlands guy you are...