MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Sabretooth Tiger]

4.  How will Oxy respond to the whipping it took in Mississippi during the tournament.  Granted, Oxy was screwed by the Committee and yes, losing Betty realistically meant that they had little chance of doing anything in that game... but it is one thing to lose and another to get spanked in a way that had us all running for cover.   We simply can't have our representative perform like that or we'll be the DIII ghetto here in the SCIAC forever. 

Oxy graduated Betty and the bulk of their starting players.  This year's seniors bring a lot of bench time to the table.  I'd say my Tigers are an unknown quantity this year as both how the returning players will perform and what the recruiting class will yield (on the men's side).

[Browneagle64]

Yes they did graduate the POY and several key members of the team, however, let me just mention that with the return of players such as Whitman, Conti, pitcher and an incoming 6-7 or 6-8 freshmen, i will assure you that the tigers will be doing everything possible to defend the SCIAC crown.
I got another chance to step into the athletic gym at the rock yesterday and saw how these young men came together on a friday afternoon on their own to run their own practice and even hit the weight room as a unit. This sure tells you that the tigers will do everything possible to do well in their new chapter of SCIAC basketball.

[sciacguru]

I got another chance to step into the athletic gym at the rock yesterday and saw how these young men came together on a friday afternoon on their own to run their own practice and even hit the weight room as a unit. This sure tells you that the tigers will do everything possible to do well in their new chapter of SCIAC basketball.

Hmmmmmmmm......better be careful.................

Division III
NCAA bylaw 17.02.1.1 (g) - pg 122
On-court or on-field activities called by any member(s) of a team and confined primarily to members of that team that are considered prequisite for participation in that sport (e.g. captain's practices)

[NWCer]

All of our NWC schedules have been released and it looks like a few will be coming your way to play, Willamette, Whitworth, Pacific, Whitman, along with La Verne coming up here to play UPS.  How do you think they will go?  Who are the favorites in your league?

[Gray Fox]

From the SCIAC website.

Check out the All Conference basketball players for 1932/33 and 1933/34.  A San Diego State guy went on to fame and fortune.

  http://www.thesciac.org/sports/mbkb/history/Men-s_Basketball_All-Conference_Teams_1932_-_1989.pdf?dec=

[Gregory Sager]

From the SCIAC website.

Check out the All Conference basketball players for 1932/33 and 1933/34.  A San Diego State guy went on to fame and fortune.

  http://www.thesciac.org/sports/mbkb/history/Men-s_Basketball_All-Conference_Teams_1932_-_1989.pdf?dec=

Basketball players say the darndest things.

[DIIIghetto]

Rumor that Cal Lu has made the surprising decision to allow their athletes involved with theft allegations last spring to return.  Anyone have an update?

I say surprising because student-athletes at D1 campuses get kicked out for similar infractions.  Go to Cal Lu and fund your education by stealing?

It would shock me if a tight-knit community like they have at Cal Lu would do these young men the disservice of showing them that even at the DIII level they can bank on their athletic talents being prioritized over their character development.

I say this with the disclaimer that I don't know anything other than the rumor and look forward to someone informing me of the facts and setting me straight.

[AndOne]

Rumor that Cal Lu has made the surprising decision to allow their athletes involved with theft allegations last spring to return.  Anyone have an update?

I say surprising because student-athletes at D1 campuses get kicked out for similar infractions.  Go to Cal Lu and fund your education by stealing?

It would shock me if a tight-knit community like they have at Cal Lu would do these young men the disservice of showing them that even at the DIII level they can bank on their athletic talents being prioritized over their character development.

I say this with the disclaimer that I don't know anything other than the rumor and look forward to someone informing me of the facts and setting me straight.

CLU Athletics Mission Statement

California Lutheran University is a private, residential, liberal arts institution and is a member of the NCAA Division III and the SCIAC conference. As such, the integration of the academic and the athletic experience is regarded with utmost importance. The primary goal of CLU student-athletes is high academic achievement and graduation in a timely fashion. CLU Intercollegiate Athletics supports the mission of the University, which is to "...educate leaders for a global society who are strong in character and judgement, confident in their identity and vocation, and committed to service and justice."

Participants in athletics have no unique privileges as it relates to academics, financial aid, or living arrangements. Our students participate as amateurs, engaging in sport for its education, physical, mental, and social benefits. CLU holds the health and welfare of its student-athletes regarding all facets of college life as an important aspect in their college experience. For them, participation in sport is an avocation.

CLU supports student-athletes in their efforts to reach high levels of performance by providing outstanding training, coaching, and appropriate competitive opportunities within our region. Both men's and women's programs are provided equitable resources and emphasis. Exceptional teams and individuals are awarded the opportunity to represent CLU through postseason play.

Participants, spectators, and members of the California Lutheran University are expected to always treat opponents, officials, spectators, and visitors with the utmost courtesy, hospitality, and good sportsmanship.

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It appears allowing them to play would also make a sham and mockery of their Athletics Mission Statement.      

[Gray Fox]

This is just a quick heads-up to let you know that
Quantum Hoops will be playing for at least one week at
the Laemmle "One Colorado" theater in Pasadena
starting on November 2-8.

There will be another reminder email as the date draws
near but if you could pass this info on to anybody who
might be interested we would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you for your continued support!



www.quantumhoops.com

[The Roop]

Not that I've mentioned it to anyone before. But the all-time series stands at Beloit 1, Occidental 0. 

[scandihoovian]

I as well, have only heard bits and pieces about the Cal Lu situation, here's what I can add:

Pedden left school, Meier and Hagen are still in school.  I am not sure if they have been cleared to participate in Varsity Basketball this season.

Their legal situations have been fully resolved.

In order to stay in school they were required to take a number of steps to atone for their actions, include a series of public and private apologies.

I am not sure what I think about the whole thing - but I sure hope that this turns into a positive "tipping point" for the young men involved.

[DIIIghetto]

Hoov, if you have the scoop accurately, that is an embarrassment to Cal Lu and our entire conference.   It also does a huge disservice to those young men.  Break the law, get preferential treatment at our 'athlete friendly' school.  Atone for your crime through athletics.   

This is a sad day for Cal Lu, forever to be known as Ca LuPenal or California Penal Lutheran. 

Maybe the SCIAC needs to rethink Cal Lu's conference participation ("fundamental principle of the conference being to encourage the highest ideals of amateur sports in an environment of high academic standards").   Not sure how upperclassmen breaking into the cars of fellow students fits into that principle. 

[scandihoovian]

Hoov, if you have the scoop accurately, that is an embarrassment to Cal Lu and our entire conference.   It also does a huge disservice to those young men.  Break the law, get preferential treatment at our 'athlete friendly' school.  Atone for your crime through athletics.   

Ghetto-
I am also outraged by the acts that were committed.  However, I don't know enough about the specifics to say whether it's a huge embarrassment, and I don't think there's anything in my post that indicates that this is a case of atonement through athletics.  Or, for that matter, that these two are receiving preferential treatment because they are athletes.  My understanding is that the two who stayed in school went through a number of very demanding steps in order to keep their student status.  If I'm not mistaken those steps included a public forum in which they had to basically face the entire campus community and answer their questions and concerns.  It sounds to me like the powers that be at CLU weighed all of the facts and decided that this was the most appropriate way to handle the situation.  So in that regard I agree with Bob.

I will also say that Coach Rider has a long and established record of representing CLU with class, and therefore I'll give him the benefit of the doubt if he decides to allow Meier and Hagen to return to the team.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Oxy's 2007-2008 schedule is up...

http://www.oxy.edu/x12385.xml

The Tigers get the season started on Nov. 4 with an exhibition game against D-I University of San Diego of the West Coast Conference. Non-conference D-III foes include SUNYAC tournament champ Plattsburgh State, University of Southern Maine, Mt. St. Mary's College, St. Scholastica, and Illinois Wesleyan (which will guarantee a post or two from Mr. Ypsi).

The top four teams from the regular season SCIAC standings will participate in the conference tournament on Feb. 29 - Mar. 1.

OxyBob

Wouldn't want to forget and disappoint you later!

Hmmm ... SoCal in late December - VERY tempting!  Unfortunately, that's the only part of the bball season where I'm guaranteed to be near Bloomington every year (and they're always somewhere warm! )

[scandihoovian]

CLU's schedule is up as well.

It's nice to see teams like Stevens Point on the schedule.