MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Oxy'03SalemPavers, March 10, 2005, 12:17:44 PM

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I believe Oxy hosts the 1st round game with the winner going to Whitworth

LogShow

Congrats to Oxy for being selected!

Shame on the NCAA for switching things around.

(509)Rat


LogShow

What happened to all the talk of not matching teams up from the same conference in the 1st round?  And I am a NWC guy but WW definately did not deserve a first round bye and then host the second round game.  Too bad for Oxy, really getting the short end of  the deal.

scandihoovian

I am sure that once the NC$$ got a chance to think about a little they figured out they could easily narrow it down from two flights to one - despite the fact that Oxy is the more deserving team in terms of a first round bye and hosting a second round game.

Browneagle64

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Hey Folks,

Oxy does play the Hens for the 1st round on thursday night at the Rock. This should be interesting considering the long travel that pomona has to take on a busy L.A. afternoon on the road. :P
On the other hand, the Whitworthpirates do have the night off.  

And btw, thanks to Ralph Turner for clarifying such big mistake. Hats off to you sir.
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LogShow

I posted this in the NWC board:

QuoteWell WW definately earned their spot in the NCAA but considering they weren't ever ranked in the regional rankings (maybe the last secret rankings) it is very suprising.  There are 5 total byes, if they were strictly given on merit, then WW wouldn't even been considered as one of the top 5 teams in country.  But since the NCAA doesn't make any money on this tournament and tries to cut corners, WW gets the bye then gets to host.  Also I am pretty sure that in the rules it states that two teams from the same conference shall not meet each other in the first round. 

I think that what would have made the most sense would have been to give Chapman the bid and let Oxy host, then it could have been a 4-team pod of WW, Chapman, Oxy, and Pomona.  With WW playing Pomona and Oxy playing Chapman.  That way only WW would have had to fly and the NCAA could have saved their money, and that way the bye could have been better used else where.

LogShow

Could there be some more 11th hour dealings and the NCAA make another change...like last year?

bbaddict

Quote from: LogShow on March 03, 2008, 01:52:05 PM
What happened to all the talk of not matching teams up from the same conference in the 1st round?  And I am a NWC guy but WW definately did not deserve a first round bye and then host the second round game.  Too bad for Oxy, really getting the short end of  the deal.

Cmon Logs!  You're just sour grapes because Whitworth beat UPS 3 times!!  UPS barely squeaked by WU to go up to Whitworth just to lose terribly!  What was with that!

How could Oxy deserve a bye when they lost to PP and Whittier.  Whitworth's conference losses were only to teams that tied for the top of the conference!  They won the conference fair & square and deserve the position.  Is it unlikely for NWC to get that?  Yes!  Undeserved?  Heck no!

So, go cheer for the UPS women against GFU.

If anyone in the SCIAC got ripped, it's Cal Lu!

LogShow

If you would have actually read my other posts (like the one right above your last post) instead of eagerly jumping to conclusions, then you would have known, that I didn't think any of the teams on the west coast should have gotten a bye.  But since you didn't I will repeat myself.  It should have been a 4 team pod including Chapman.


Also, teams are not just evaluated on their conference losses.  There in much more that goes into the process.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: LogShow on March 03, 2008, 02:11:49 PM
Could there be some more 11th hour dealings and the NCAA make another change...like last year?
I think it is always unfortunate when things get announced and then, BOOM!!, changed.  Even though I agree with the logic of the switch and it does benefit my team, it is an unnecessary occurence.  Both scenarios make sense, however, despite the regional rankings, Oxy did slip up and should be forced to pay for it if all things are equal.  WW has won their conf. outright and tourney outright.  That's 2 for 2.  Oxy, 1 of 2.
NWC fan

bbaddict

Oh, I've read your other posts, Logs, on this site and others.  From it I've determined that you're a closet SCIAC fan!  First, UPS then anyone SCIAC!  Am I right?

And you can ding my karma all you want!  Having lots of karma isn't worth giving up being right!

LogShow

Point well taken.  I just hate the "here you go...just kidding" routine of the NCAA.

tigersports

It's actually the fairer result, imho, as Oxy stumbled to the finish and Whitworth finished strong.  I surely hope that it was just a mistake in reading off the pairings and not some sinister thing like happened last year, but it's hard to get that stench out of the way.

bbaddict

Quote from: LogShow on March 03, 2008, 02:34:46 PM
Point well taken.  I just hate the "here you go...just kidding" routine of the NCAA.

I'm with you on that!  Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the mysterious selection process when they change things, whether it was an oversight or an actual change.

I just don't see why Whitworth or one of the SCIAC teams can't play someone from Texas or something, so they don't end up acing each other out in the early rounds!  Happens every year.