D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

hopefan · January 21, 2020, 05:19:14 AM

Games of 1/20/20

St. Elizabeth 72, Pratt (USCAA) 52
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 83, Maine Maritime 71
SUNY Delhi 86, Albany Pharmacy (USCAA) 68

hopefan · January 22, 2020, 08:03:11 PM

Game of 1/21/20

Fredonia 62, Penn State Shenango (USCAA) 53

hopefan · January 23, 2020, 01:19:34 PM

Game of 1/22/20

Baruch 74, Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 55

hopefan · January 24, 2020, 07:47:53 AM

Games of 1/23/20

UC Santa Cruz 68, Cal Miramar (Other) 65
Maranatha Baptist 82, Moody Bible (NCCAA-D2) 54

hopefan · January 26, 2020, 06:54:34 AM

Games of 1/25/20

Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2) 92, Concordia (Wis.) 55
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2) 67, Concordia-Chicago 66
Valley Forge 119, King's College NY (USCAA) 87
John Jay 66, Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 59

hopefan · January 27, 2020, 06:21:30 AM

Games of 1/26/20

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 77, Maine-Presque Isle 74
Princeton (NCAA-D1) 87, Rutgers-Camden 41

hopefan · January 29, 2020, 04:15:32 AM

Games of 1/28/20

CCNY 79, Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 70
Maranatha Baptist 90, Emmaus (NCCAA-D2) 60
Maine-Presque Isle 126, Unity (USCAA) 63
Minnesota-Morris 94, Trinity Bible (N.D.) (NCCAA-D2) 76

hopefan · January 30, 2020, 10:28:59 AM

Games of 1/29/20

Finlandia played (and lost to) Bay CC.... I'm not including that game as I believe games against 2 year schools are not included by the NCAA in D3 teams records.

Gregory Sager · January 30, 2020, 10:54:45 AM

That is correct.

Baldini · January 30, 2020, 11:22:37 AM

Agree with all of that, but what is odd is that Finlandia seems to count them as official games on their website. Since they stopped playing a round robin schedule with the UMAC ('16-'17 season) they have scheduled Bay CC and Gogebic CC and list them in their records and stats as counting games.

Gregory Sager · January 30, 2020, 11:46:41 AM

Finlandia can do whatever it likes with its records and stats, but the NCAA will not recognize those games. They will count towards the 25-game ceiling for player participation in the regular season, but the results, stats, and any records set will not be counted by D3. And d3hoops.com won't recognize them as legit games, either.

Baldini · January 30, 2020, 12:26:10 PM

Finlandia was 0-21 last season according to their website and d3hoop.com's listing of schedule results with 3 of those games being against Bay CC and Gogebic CC. I went to NCAA's website and they list Finlandia at 0-18 last season with no record of those games being played, which is just confirming what we all thought was the case. It is also a given that the games are not used for SOS purposes or used for any other metrics, but if d3hoops.com is listing the results and showing Finlandia as 0-21, are they not than recognizing the games as official games? Not trying to be a pain here, but why does d3hoops.com list the games in the official results?

Gregory Sager · January 30, 2020, 12:33:35 PM

My guess is that Pat didn't audit Finlandia's schedule for last season. Send him a PM or an email, and he'll change it.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 30, 2020, 01:03:51 PM

Quote from: Baldini on January 30, 2020, 12:26:10 PM
Finlandia was 0-21 last season according to their website and d3hoop.com's listing of schedule results with 3 of those games being against Bay CC and Gogebic CC. I went to NCAA's website and they list Finlandia at 0-18 last season with no record of those games being played, which is just confirming what we all thought was the case. It is also a given that the games are not used for SOS purposes or used for any other metrics, but if d3hoops.com is listing the results and showing Finlandia as 0-21, are they not than recognizing the games as official games? Not trying to be a pain here, but why does d3hoops.com list the games in the official results?

I don't know if Pat will want to go back and change things, but, generally, for our purposes, if it's not marked as a regional game, it doesn't really matter. Only the regional games get pulled for SOS and stuff like that. We could go mark them as exhibition and they might not show up in the schedule anymore, but it wouldn't change anything else in the system.

Pat Coleman · January 30, 2020, 01:12:01 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 30, 2020, 12:33:35 PM
My guess is that Pat didn't audit Finlandia's schedule for last season. Send him a PM or an email, and he'll change it.

I audit, but schools have the ability to change them and I don't get any notification.

With this year's Finlandia schedule, I went through the process of actually locking out changes, which takes about 10 times as long but seemed necessary.