D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

[hopefan]

Only 36 games left vs NAIA-D2....  and we're down 6 games...   need to go 21-15....  need great efforts by Nebraska Wesleyan, Chapman, and UC-Santa Cruz  who play well over half of those games..... it doesn't look good.....

[hopefan]

and as a bonus  records vs non conference D3

WIAC               53   16   0.768
LEC               48   17   0.738
NESCAC               72   28   0.720
UAA               59   23   0.720
Newmac               54   23   0.701
ASC               20   9   0.690
ODAC               50   23   0.685
MACC               40   19   0.678
NWC               22   11   0.667
NCAC               46   27   0.630
NJAC               54   34   0.614
IIAC               36   23   0.610
CCIW               48   35   0.578
LL               32   24   0.571
HCAC               38   31   0.551
E8               39   33   0.542
CAC               31   27   0.534
MWC               24   21   0.533
Landmark            36   34   0.514
CSAC               24   23   0.511
MIAA               28   28   0.500
SUNYAC               27   27   0.500
MIAC               26   26   0.500
OAC               27   28   0.491
MACF               28   31   0.475
Mascac               34   38   0.472222222
CC               25   28   0.472
PrAC               30   35   0.462
SCAC               39   47   0.453
CUNY               37   45   0.451
USAC               28   36   0.438
Independent            33   47   0.413
SCIAC               18   26   0.409
Sky               23   35   0.397
NATCH               23   47   0.329
CCC               17   35   0.327
NECC               19   40   0.322
GNAC               19   45   0.297
SLIAC               13   35   0.271
AMCC               14   39   0.264
GSAC               12   34   0.261
UMAC               11   44   0.200
NEAC               11   61   0.153
NAC               5   35   0.125

[Ralph Turner]

Only 36 games left vs NAIA-D2....  and we're down 6 games...   need to go 21-15....  need great efforts by Nebraska Wesleyan, Chapman, and UC-Santa Cruz  who play well over half of those games..... it doesn't look good.....

You may need to back out Neb Wesleyan from those games. It is not fair to D-3 to have that single school, which has only played 5 D-III schools (going 4-1 in the process).  They are 2-5 against non-D3 foes.  There are half of the losses in the negative margin, right there.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Only 36 games left vs NAIA-D2....  and we're down 6 games...   need to go 21-15....  need great efforts by Nebraska Wesleyan, Chapman, and UC-Santa Cruz  who play well over half of those games..... it doesn't look good.....

You may need to back out Neb Wesleyan from those games. It is not fair to D-3 to have that single school, which has only played 5 D-III schools (going 4-1 in the process).  They are 2-5 against non-D3 foes.  There are half of the losses in the negative margin, right there.

I totally agree.  (If this were 1997 Neb Wes, I might beg to differ! )

A school playing vastly more NAIA opponents than d3 opponents is not a viable rep for d3.

May I suggest that d3 teams to be counted in this compilation must play 50+% of their games against d3 opponents?

[7express]

Mass-Dartmouth plays 2 NAIA schools this week: Northwood Tuesday and Warner Wednesday.  Hopefully they can improve that record by 2.

[hopefan]

Sorry guys, if they're D3 on this site, they're D3 in my numbers....

Goodness, next thing you know, you'll be demanding UMPI be removed too!!!!!

[smedindy]

Let's not be pundits and cherry-pick our stats to make us look good. They are what they are.

[magicman]

Oswego State with a valiant effort almost pulls off the upset of D-I Texas-Pan American. as they lose 59-54. Key moment was a charging foul called on Laker's Chris Gilkes on a made basket that was waved off with 3:44 to go. Lakers were down 2 at the time 55-53 and his bucket would have tied the game and a free throw would have given the Lakers the lead. It was a very questionable call to say the least. Changed the complexion of the game for sure. Laker's Haydan Ward led all scorers with 18 points, 16 of them coming in the 2nd half. Oswego was down by 10 at the break 33-23 but opened the 2nd period with a 10-2 run to get back into the game. Nearly the entire 2nd half was a 1 or 2 possession game. At the 10:00 minute mark the Broncos opened up the largest lead of the 2nd half at 47-40 but the Lakers didn't fold and came right back to tie it up at 51 with 5 minutes to play. Twice in the  final 1:46 Oswego had a chance to take the lead as they were down 55-54. The last time came with 41 seconds to play as they missed a three point attempt. Lakers fouled and after the Broncos hit both free throws to make it a 3 point game Oswego came down with a chance to tie and 38 seconds on the clock. Laker guard was called for a traveling violation and that led to another foul and the final points of the game. The boys from Oswego didn't win but they hung with the Broncos the whole game. This Bronco team, by the way, nearly upset St. John's two weeks ago in NYC. They gave the Big East team all it could handle losing in the final seconds 66-61. The game was 62-61 with 36 seconds to go. So yeah they aren't a great D-1 team but they could probably do alright against a number of mid-majors.

[hopefan]

Games of Jan 2

Albright  80,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  69
William Jessup  (NAIA-D2)  54,  UC Santa Cruz  47

Games of Jan 3

Occidental  84,  Pacifica  (Other)  65
SUNY-Old Westbury  94,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  72
Susquehanna  91,  Thaddeus Stevens  (Other)  57
Texas Pan American  (NCAA-D1)  59,  Oswego State  54
Cal St. San Marcos  (NAIA-D1)  51,  Pomona-Pitzer  46
Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  83,  DeSales  77
Northwood (Fla.)  (NAIA-D2)  96,  Mass-Dartmouth  72

Games of Jan 4

Alvernia  68,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  64
Centre  91,  Berea  (NAIA-D2)  64
Lake Forest  76,  St. Francis (Ill.)  (NAIA-D1)  51
Massachusetts College  67,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  55
Redlands  97,  American Sports  (Other)  69
Whittier  113,  Pacifica  (Other)  97
Buffalo   (NCAA-D1)  111,  Buffalo State  59
Warner  (NAIA-D2)  79,  Mass-Dartmouth  62
Valley City State  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Minnesota-Morris  53
Morningside  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Nebraska Wesleyan  70

Games of Jan 5

Wilkes  100,  Penn College  (USCAA)  61
Greenville  117,  Concordia St. Louis  (Other)  71
Houghton  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Maine-Presque Isle  49
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  66,  Baptist Bible  43
Sioux Falls  (NCAA-D2)  101,  Minnesota-Morris  57
Penn State Delaware County  (USCAA)  68,  Philadelphia Bible  59
Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  84,  Piedmont  83

Games of Jan 6

Oberlin  78,  Ohio University-Zanesville  (Other)  30
Kuyper  (NCCAA)  68,  Maranatha Baptist  65

D3 Record thru Jan 6     pretty much dead ducks in the race vs NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   41
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   72   82
NCCAA   32   12
USCAA   88   30
Other   55   6

[Ethelred the Unready]

Is this the first year DIII has had a losing record against NAIA DII?

[hopefan]

Is this the first year DIII has had a losing record against NAIA DII?

I went back as far as our current pages track....  most per HOF'r Rhodes Scholar, some help from yours truly

D3 record vs NAIA D2

2011 was not tracked
138   114      2010
130   97      2009
121   98      2008
90   101      2007
119   118      2006
67   70      2005

[hopefan]

Games of Jan 7, Jan 8

Arcadia  74,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  66
LaGrange  73,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  62
UC Santa Cruz  86,  Simpson (Cal.)  (NAIA-D2)  77
Wilkes  74,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  46
Yale  (NCAA-D1)  101,  St. Joseph's (L.I.)  86
Princeton  (NCAA-D1)  79,  New Jersey  68
Cornell (N.Y.)  (NCAA-D1)  78,  Albright  60
Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  64,  Grove City  62
Dakota Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  65,  Nebraska Wesleyan  53

D3 Record thru Jan 8

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   44
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   73   83
NCCAA   33   12
USCAA   90   31
Other   55   6

[hopefan]

Games of January 9

West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA)  66,  Chapman  64
Florida Christian  (NCCAA)  81,  Covenant  75
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  68,  Maine-Presque Isle  45

Games of January 10

Penn State-Harrisburg  93,  Penn College  (USCAA)  49
Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA)  56,  Sewanee  54
Penn St.-Dubois  (USCAA)  61,  Westminster (Pa.)  56

Games of January 11

Nebraska Wesleyan  76,  Doane  (NAIA-D2)  60
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Fitchburg State  81

Games of January 12

North Central (Minn.)  101,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA)  73
Rowan  74,  Vaughn  (Other)  58
UC Santa Cruz  86,  Simpson (Cal.)  (NAIA-D2)  77

Game of January 13

Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  78,  North Central (Minn.)  61

Games of January 14


Finlandia  113,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  82
Greenville  81,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA)  78
Lakeland  97,  Northland International  (NCCAA)  67
North Central (Minn.)  71,  Central Bible  (NCCAA)  67
Randolph  89,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  59
Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Nebraska Wesleyan  61
Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA)  73,  Piedmont  70
New Jersey Tech  (NCAA-D1)  95,  SUNY-Cobleskill  57

D3 record vs non D3:

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   75   85
NCCAA   37   17
USCAA   93   33
Other   56   6

[y_jack_lok]

Which category will the January 23rd Webster vs Lindenwood game fall into?

[smedindy]

More importantly, does Free Will Baptist use the Rush song "Free Will" as its school song. And if so, can anyone hit the high notes?