D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

[Ralph Turner]

Oklahoma Christian U is provisional D-2 in the Heartland Conference.

(Just roll out the list hopefan and the rest of the posters will start proofreading it.     Kinda fun, isn't it.)

[hopefan]

Games of 11/22/13


Calvin (D3)  105    Kuyper (NCCAA-D2)  86
New England College (D3)  74    King's College NY (USCAA)  39
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  80    Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA-D2)  78
North Central (Minn.) (D3)  73    Moody Bible (NCCAA-D2)  60
Ohio Christian (NCCAA-D2)  90    Otterbein (D3)  71
Centre (D3)  80    Point Park (NAIA-D2)  76
Rochester Tech (D3)  87    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  66
Susquehanna (D3)  85    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  67
Chapman (D3)  87    Menlo (NAIA-D2)  63
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2)  102    Concordia-Moorhead (D3)  55
Manhattan Christian (NCCAA-D2)  62    Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  53
Maine-Machias (USCAA)  84    Maine Maritime (D3)  57
Incarnate Word (NCAA-D2)  80    Southwestern (D3)  61
Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  74    William Peace (D3)  72


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   4   
NCAA-D2   1   13   
NAIA-D1   5   3   
NAIA-D2   12   13   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   14   5   
USCAA   29   7   
Other   10   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   10   2   

If you follow this room, keep your eye on D3 vs NAIA-D2... that one is usually pretty close....

[hopefan]

And here is a little add on... I'll show it every now and then

D3 vs non conference D3

1   WIAC      13   5   0.722
2   Newmac      18   7   0.720
3   UAA      15   6   0.714
4   ODAC      20   8   0.714
5   MIAC      12   5   0.706
6   NESCAC      23   10   0.697
7   Landmark      14   7   0.667
8   OAC      14   7   0.667
9   CCIW      13   7   0.650
10   MACC      16   9   0.640
11   NEAC      15   9   0.625
12   MWC      16   10   0.615
13   LL      14   10   0.583
14   IIAC      11   8   0.579
15   NJAC      11   8   0.579
16   NWC      12   9   0.571
17   MACF      12   9   0.571
18   CAC      14   11   0.560
19   SAA      11   9   0.550
20   ASC      6   5   0.545
21   LEC      12   10   0.545
22   PrAC      13   11   0.542
23   SCAC      8   7   0.533
24   HCAC      13   14   0.481
25   Sky      11   12   0.478
26   NCAC      7   8   0.467
27   CSAC      12   14   0.462
28   CCC      14   17   0.452
29   AMCC      10   13   0.435
30   Mascac      9   12   0.429
31   SCIAC      6   8   0.429
32   CUNY      10   14   0.417
33   Independent      5   7   0.417
34   CC      11   16   0.407
35   NATCH      6   9   0.400
36   NECC      10   16   0.385
37   GNAC      11   18   0.379
38   E8      9   15   0.375
39   USAC      8   14   0.364
40   UMAC      6   12   0.333
41   MIAA      5   11   0.313
42   NAC      4   11   0.267
43   SLIAC      5   16   0.238

[hopefan]

yikes, my SLIAC boys are 43 out of 43....

Magicman later pointed out an error... the SUNYAC is misidentified as the NEAC, and the NEAC is missing... will be corrected next time.....The NEAC actually comes out no 44!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Wilmington defeated Miami (Ohio) today, 65-63. Coming to this board to find out when the last time was a D3 beat a D1. Can never remember from one to the next.

[hopefan]

Colorado College beat Air Force early in the 2010-11 season

When I monitored things in 2011-12, D3 was 0-45 vs D1

I don't know if we beat them in 2012-13  or not......

[magicman]

And here is a little add on... I'll show it every now and then

D3 vs non conference D3

1   WIAC      13   5   0.722
2   Newmac      18   7   0.720
3   UAA      15   6   0.714
4   ODAC      20   8   0.714
5   MIAC      12   5   0.706
6   NESCAC      23   10   0.697
7   Landmark      14   7   0.667
8   OAC      14   7   0.667
9   CCIW      13   7   0.650
10   MACC      16   9   0.640
11   NEAC      15   9   0.625
12   MWC      16   10   0.615
13   LL      14   10   0.583
14   IIAC      11   8   0.579
15   NJAC      11   8   0.579
16   NWC      12   9   0.571
17   MACF      12   9   0.571
18   CAC      14   11   0.560
19   SAA      11   9   0.550
20   ASC      6   5   0.545
21   LEC      12   10   0.545
22   PrAC      13   11   0.542
23   SCAC      8   7   0.533
24   HCAC      13   14   0.481
25   Sky      11   12   0.478
26   NCAC      7   8   0.467
27   CSAC      12   14   0.462
28   CCC      14   17   0.452
29   AMCC      10   13   0.435
30   Mascac      9   12   0.429
31   SCIAC      6   8   0.429
32   CUNY      10   14   0.417
33   Independent      5   7   0.417
34   CC      11   16   0.407
35   NATCH      6   9   0.400
36   NECC      10   16   0.385
37   GNAC      11   18   0.379
38   E8      9   15   0.375
39   USAC      8   14   0.364
40   UMAC      6   12   0.333
41   MIAA      5   11   0.313
42   NAC      4   11   0.267
43   SLIAC      5   16   0.238

Do my eyes deceive me or did you leave out my SUNYAC conference. I checked that list twice and unless you used some different initials to identify it, I can't find the YAC on it anywhere.   We were 14-9, I believe, heading into today's games. We were 1-3 today, so that would make us  15-12 overall vs D-3. Our actual record is 16-12 but 1 of those wins was against SUNY-Canton.

Speaking of SUNY-Canton, I didn't spot them in the massive list of teams that you posted earlier. When Potsdam State beat them back on 11-15 you posted the result of that game and said they were Ind-D3 Provisional.  Are you not going to give us the list of those teams as well? You're slipping    I know Alfred State, Illnois Tech, Sarah Lawrence, and Valley Forge Christian were the teams that you listed as Ind-D3 Provisional that had played a game against a D3 team.

[hopefan]

Ugh   WHY is the SUNYAC missing... to the drawing board....

[hopefan]

    Magic   you'll appreciate this... the conference really missing is the NEAC... the SUNYAC is misidentified as the NEAC... and when I get the NEAC in, they come in dead LAST... replacing my boys from the SLIAC!!!!      Thanks for bringing to my attention...

[hopefan]

Ind-D3 Provisionals are Alfred State, Illinois Tech, Sarah Lawrence, SUNY-Canton, and Valley Forge Christian

Ind-D3 Exploratory are Bryn Athyn and Penn College

Remember, I have counted Centenary, Iowa Wesleyan, Houghton, and Southern Virginia as NCAA D3 teams because they play full conference schedule while still in a provisional status...

[magicman]

  Magic   you'll appreciate this... the conference really missing is the NEAC... the SUNYAC is misidentified as the NEAC... and when I get the NEAC in, they come in dead LAST... replacing my boys from the SLIAC!!!!      Thanks for bringing to my attention...

That's funny. I noticed the NEAC Conference was fairly high and mighty on that list of yours and was going to check on it as I found it hard to believe they could be doing that well.  But then I got sidetracked when I couldn't find the SUNYAC Conference anywhere. And then I was further sidetracked when I discovered the error on the scoreboard of 11-19 that omitted the Alfred State score which led to my e-mail to you. I completely forgot that I wanted to check out the NEAC, as I thought they should be at the other end of that list. I should score mucho bonus points with you for kicking your guys up a notch and  thus avoiding the bottom rung of the ladder.

[hopefan]

Games of 11/23/13

Calvin (D3)  97    College of Faith (Other)  81
Colby (D3)  96    Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA)  55
Johnson State (D3)  92    King's College NY (USCAA)  46
Manhattan Christian (NCCAA-D2)  79    Maranatha Baptist (D3)  78
Clarke (NAIA-D2)  100    Buena Vista (D3)  94
Keuka (D3)  101    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  72
Trinity (Conn.) (D3)  63    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  60
Alfred (D3)  100    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  96
Goshen (NAIA-D2)  73    Bluffton (D3)  71
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  93    Houghton (D3)  74
Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  80    Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA-D2)  78
MacMurray (D3)  122    St. Louis Christian (Other)  66
Bryan (NAIA-D2)  72    Maryville (Tenn.) (D3)  70
Northland (D3)  76    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  57
Occidental (D3)  79    St. Katherine (Other)  69
Purdue-Calumet (NAIA-D2)  86    Olivet (D3)  63
Westmont (NAIA-D1)  77    Pomona-Pitzer (D3)  69
Bemidji State (NCAA-D2)  103    St. Scholastica (D3)  56
Washington and Jefferson (D3)  88    Penn St.-Fayette (USCAA)  73
Wilmington (D3)  65    Miami (Ohio) (NCAA-D1)  63
Bethany (D3)  102    Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA)  63
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1)  108    Westminster (Pa.) (D3)  57
Texas Lutheran (D3)  97    Southwestern Adventist (Other)  83
Evansville (NCAA-D1)  91    Anderson (D3)  68
Ohio University (NCAA-D1)  85    Heidelberg (D3)  57
Ashford (NAIA-D2)  63    North Central (Minn.) (D3)  45
Oglethorpe (D3)  90    Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  53
Montreat (NAIA-D2)  103    Averett (D3)  100
SUNY-Cobleskill (D3)  74    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  67


D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   7   
NCAA-D2   1   14   
NAIA-D1   5   4   
NAIA-D2   12   20   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   17   6   
USCAA   34   7   
Other   14   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   12   2   

Wow... very bad night vs NAIA D2

[hopefan]

New vs non conference D3      and corrected!!!

1   WIAC      17   6   0.739
2   NESCAC      27   11   0.711
3   OAC      19   8   0.704
4   Newmac      21   9   0.700
5   ODAC      23   10   0.697
6   MIAC      16   7   0.696
7   MACC      22   10   0.688
8   UAA      19   9   0.679
9   Landmark      16   10   0.615
10   LEC      17   11   0.607
11   PrAC      17   12   0.586
12   IIAC      14   10   0.583
13   NJAC      11   8   0.579
14   SCAC      12   9   0.571
15   LL      16   12   0.571
16   MWC      16   12   0.571
17   SAA      16   12   0.571
18   SUNY      16   12   0.571
19   CAC      17   13   0.567
20   CCIW      15   12   0.556
21   MACF      15   12   0.556
22   NATCH      12   10   0.545
23   NWC      14   13   0.519
24   E8      15   15   0.500
25   Sky      15   15   0.500
26   CSAC      16   17   0.485
27   HCAC      14   15   0.483
28   ASC      7   9   0.438
29   NCAC      9   12   0.429
30   Mascac      11   15   0.423
31   Independent      7   10   0.412
32   CCC      16   23   0.410
33   CC      11   16   0.407
34   SCIAC      7   11   0.389
35   NECC      13   21   0.382
36   USAC      11   18   0.379
37   AMCC      12   20   0.375
38   CUNY      10   17   0.370
39   UMAC      8   14   0.364
40   GNAC      13   23   0.361
41   MIAA      6   13   0.316
42   NAC      6   13   0.316
43   SLIAC      7   20   0.259
44   NEAC      6   20   0.231

[magicman]

New vs non conference D3      and corrected!!!

1   WIAC      17   6   0.739
2   NESCAC      27   11   0.711
3   OAC      19   8   0.704
4   Newmac      21   9   0.700
5   ODAC      23   10   0.697
6   MIAC      16   7   0.696
7   MACC      22   10   0.688
8   UAA      19   9   0.679
9   Landmark      16   10   0.615
10   LEC      17   11   0.607
11   PrAC      17   12   0.586
12   IIAC      14   10   0.583
13   NJAC      11   8   0.579
14   SCAC      12   9   0.571  SUNY      16   12   0.571
15   LL      16   12   0.571
16   MWC      16   12   0.571
17   SAA      16   12   0.571
18   SUNY      16   12   0.571  SCAC      12   9   0.571 
19   CAC      17   13   0.567
20   CCIW      15   12   0.556
21   MACF      15   12   0.556
22   NATCH      12   10   0.545
23   NWC      14   13   0.519
24   E8      15   15   0.500
25   Sky      15   15   0.500
26   CSAC      16   17   0.485
27   HCAC      14   15   0.483
28   ASC      7   9   0.438
29   NCAC      9   12   0.429
30   Mascac      11   15   0.423
31   Independent      7   10   0.412
32   CCC      16   23   0.410
33   CC      11   16   0.407
34   SCIAC      7   11   0.389
35   NECC      13   21   0.382
36   USAC      11   18   0.379
37   AMCC      12   20   0.375
38   CUNY      10   17   0.370
39   UMAC      8   14   0.364
40   GNAC      13   23   0.361
41   MIAA      6   13   0.316
42   NAC      6   13   0.316
43   SLIAC      7   20   0.259
44   NEAC      6   20   0.231

hopefan,

I believe that NOW it's correct.

[hopefan]

Games of 11/24/13


Colby (D3)  87    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  71
Clarke (NAIA-D2)  73    UW-Oshkosh (D3)  57
Concordia (Cal.) (NAIA-D1)  87    Lewis and Clark (D3)  67

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   7   
NCAA-D2   1   14   
NAIA-D1   5   5   
NAIA-D2   13   21   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   17   6   
USCAA   34   7   
Other   14   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   12   2