D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

hopefan · November 25, 2015, 07:22:01 AM

Games of 11/24/15

D'Youville 80, Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional) 73
Lubbock Christian (NCAA-D2) 78, Sul Ross State 56
Houghton 94, Villa Maria (other) 70
Anderson 88, Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 80
Eckerd (NCAA-D2) 82, Franklin 67
Wright State (NCAA-D1) 66, Mount St. Joseph 52
Maine-Presque Isle 80, Central Maine CC (Other) 68
Hood 85, Penn State York (USCAA) 56
Manhattanville 68, Valley Forge (Ind-D3 Provisional) 48
Adrian 76, Siena Heights (NAIA-D2) 62
Penn St. Mont alto (USCAA) 95, Wilson 71
Umass Lowell (NCAA-D1) 104, Wheelock 76
Emerson 76, Fisher (NAIA-D2) 68
Pacific Lutheran 130, Northwest Indian College (Other) 52
James Madison (NCAA-D1) 106, Eastern Mennonite 74
Grove City 76, Penn St. Beaver (USCAA) 75
Regis (Col.) (NCAA-D2) 72, Colorado College 66
Hawaii Pacific (NCAA-D2) 82, Chapman 66
Occidental 82, West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D2) 49
Greenville 138, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 89
Presentation (NAIA-D2) 100, Minnesota-Morris 67
St. Cloud State (NCAA-D2) 98, Northland 56
LaGrange 103, Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2) 80
UW-La Crosse 71, Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 47

D3 YTD vs:

W L
NCAA-D1 1 21
NCAA-D2 3 14
NAIA-D1 2 4
NAIA-D2 10 21
NCCAA-D1 6 0
NCCAA-D2 14 1
USCAA 24 6
Other 15 0
IND-D3 Provisional 15 0

hopefan · November 26, 2015, 08:13:24 AM

Games of 11/25

Northwestern State (La.) (NCAA-D1) 86, Louisiana College 80
Texas College (NAIA-D1) 101, Rust 92
Towson (NCAA-D1) 88, Gallaudet 45
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 97, George Fox 83
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 69, Thiel 55
Eastern Kentucky (NCAA-D1) 101, Thomas More 67
Centre 80, Berea (Ind-D3 Provisional) 66

YTD D3 vs
W L
NCAA-D1 1 25
NCAA-D2 3 14
NAIA-D1 2 5
NAIA-D2 10 22
NCCAA-D1 6 0
NCCAA-D2 14 1
USCAA 24 6
Other 15 0
IND-D3 Provisional 16 0

7express · November 26, 2015, 11:47:53 AM

Louisiana College hanging in there against the D-1 state schools. Beat McNeese outright, only lost by 6 to Northwestern State.

hopefan · November 28, 2015, 06:49:19 AM

Games of 11/27

Bluefield 75 (NAIA-D2), Methodist 54
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 65, Bristol (USCAA) 63
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 103, Calvin 72
Hope 95, Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 61
Mass-Boston 74, Vermont Tech (USCAA) 70
Trinity (Conn.) 90, Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 51
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 101, Dubuque 88
Texas Permian Basin (NCAA-D2) 102, Sul Ross State 82

YTD D3 versus:

W L
NCAA-D1 1 25
NCAA-D2 3 15
NAIA-D1 2 5
NAIA-D2 11 25
NCCAA-D1 6 0
NCCAA-D2 14 1
USCAA 27 6
Other 15 0
IND-D3 Provisional 16 0

Greek Tragedy · November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM

So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

hopefan · November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · November 28, 2015, 04:11:16 PM

Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Nebraska Wesleyan is (and has been for a long time) a dual member of both the NAIA and NCAA. Next year they will be joining the Iowa Conference in d3, so there should be less controversy, but they are a d3 member.

AO · November 28, 2015, 05:36:51 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 28, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Nebraska Wesleyan is (and has been for a long time) a dual member of both the NAIA and NCAA. Next year they will be joining the Iowa Conference in d3, so there should be less controversy, but they are a d3 member.

I don't see how there's any controversy as they play under the more restrictive rules of D3.

Mr. Ypsi · November 28, 2015, 09:39:27 PM

Quote from: AO on November 28, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 28, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Nebraska Wesleyan is (and has been for a long time) a dual member of both the NAIA and NCAA. Next year they will be joining the Iowa Conference in d3, so there should be less controversy, but they are a d3 member.
I don't see how there's any controversy as they play under the more restrictive rules of D3.

Agreed. And they do have some very worthy D3 history. In 1997, IWU beat Neb Wes in a close battle in the title game in Salem. They have at least a few other deep runs in the D3 tourney. Due to geography, they joined an NAIA conference, but they have never totally abandoned D3, and will return almost entirely next season.

Greek Tragedy · November 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM

I understand all that. But do their results count as D3 in terms of the NCAA tourney process?

hopefan · November 29, 2015, 05:58:54 AM

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
I understand all that. But do their results count as D3 in terms of the NCAA tourney process?

They are listed on NCAA.org as a member of NCAA D3 Men's basketball

http://web1.ncaa.org/onlineDir/exec2/sponsorship

hopefan · November 29, 2015, 07:11:29 AM

Games of 11/28/15

Neumann 85, Valley Forge (Ind-D3 Provisional) 68
Cumberland (NAIA-D1) 69, Methodist 55
Pomona-Pitzer 92, Bristol (USCAA) 72
Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 87, Calvin 7
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 73, Hope 67
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 107, Central 102
Roanoke 126, Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA) 86
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 81, Southern Virginia 73
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 83, Staten Island 59
Wartburg 74, Governors State (NAIA-D2) 71
Cornell 71, Robert Morris-Peoria (USCAA) 60
Lake Forest 92, Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 68
Davidson (NCAA-D1) 83, Denison 70
La Salle (NCAA-D1) 81, Rowan 51
Corban (NAIA-D2) 75, Willamette 74
BYU-Hawaii (NCAA-D2) 98, Chapman 82
Stony Brook (NCAA-D1) 91, Farmingdale State 42

YTD D3 vs:
W L
NCAA-D1 1 29
NCAA-D2 3 16
NAIA-D1 2 6
NAIA-D2 12 29
NCCAA-D1 6 0
NCCAA-D2 14 1
USCAA 30 7
Other 15 0
IND-D3 Provisional 18 0

hopefan · November 30, 2015, 02:51:19 AM

Games of 11/29

Goucher 94, Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA) 59
Berea (Ind-D3 Provisional) 87, Wilmington 85

Wilmington is first D3 loss to Independent D3 Provisional team

Gregory Sager · November 30, 2015, 11:44:38 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 28, 2015, 09:39:27 PM
Agreed. And they do have some very worthy D3 history. In 1997, IWU beat Neb Wes in a close battle in the title game in Salem. They have at least a few other deep runs in the D3 tourney.

NebWes made the Final Four three times in a four-year period in the '80s, finishing third in the nation in '85, '86, and '88. North Park beat NebWes in one of the '85 semifinals, so I got to see one of those Plainsmen teams; NWU forward Dana Janssen, an All-American, was a phenomenal player. Here's a Sports Illustrated article about those Plainsmen teams.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · December 01, 2015, 08:03:58 AM

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
I understand all that. But do their results count as D3 in terms of the NCAA tourney process?

Results against them count as d3 wins, as far as I know. They often declare for the NAIA tourney, but I don't think that invalidates their status, it just prevents them from being included in Pool C.