D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

[y_jack_lok]

Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

[Baldini]

Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

I do live in the Lexington area, moved here in 2007. I am no Transylvania historian by any stretch, but my guess would be that they were a NAIA school at that time like soo many current D-3 schools were in that timeframe. They played in the NAIA tournament in March of 2001 and joined the HCAC in the fall of 2001, my guess would be that is when they switched over to D-3.

[hopefan]

Central Maine CC is USCAA in the Yankee Small Colleges Conference.
Bryant & Stratton (WI) is NJCAA Region 4.
Pretty sure that Carolina Christian is NCCAA D-2.
Thaddeus Steven is NJCAA Region 29.
Shawnee Baptist closed in 2014.

Carolina Christian is not listed as a member on their website.



https://thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/MBB2_0606121659.aspx

Checking the Carolina Christian site... their schedule includes prospective participation in the ACCA tourney in Joplin Mo at season's end...
Also included in their schedule are two games at Cal Miramar!!!

[Inkblot]

The ACCA only has 17 members listed on their site, many of which are also NCCAA.

Arlington Baptist (NCCAA)
Association Free Lutheran
Baptist Bible
Barclay (NCCAA)
Carolina Christian
Champion Christian (NCCAA)
Community Christian
Faith Baptist (NCCAA)
Kansas Christian (NCCAA)
Oak Hills Christian (NCCAA)
Ozark Christian (NCCAA)
Rhema Bible
St. Louis Christian
Southeastern Baptist (NCCAA)
Southwestern Adventist (NCCAA)
Trinity Bible (NCCAA)
Los Angeles Divinity

[Baldini]

Just a note about the NCCAA and the ACCA, their post seasons are structured so that the NCCAA teams can play in both if they should so like to do so. The NCCAA's regionals are the week before the ACCA tournament (which only has a selection of teams to play in the tournament) and NCCAA's championship is the week after. Which the Arlington Baptist women's team has done the past 4 years, winning 4 straight double national championships. They have won the last 5 NCCAA-2 titles, but only the last 4 ACCA titles. 

[y_jack_lok]

Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

I do live in the Lexington area, moved here in 2007. I am no Transylvania historian by any stretch, but my guess would be that they were a NAIA school at that time like soo many current D-3 schools were in that timeframe. They played in the NAIA tournament in March of 2001 and joined the HCAC in the fall of 2001, my guess would be that is when they switched over to D-3.

NAIA for Transy back when I lived there makes sense. I did not realize they were so new to D3.

[hopefan]

Games of 11/29/19

A tough night for the MIAA in Grand Rapids

Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 84, Calvin 60
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 78, Hope 74

[hopefan]

Games of 11/30/19

A big rebound for the MIAA in Grand Rapids

Calvin  71,  Cornerstone  (NAIA-D2)  68
Hope  79,  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  63
Hendrix  70,  Mississippi women  (uscaa)  66
Puget Sound  92,  Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  81

[Gregory Sager]

Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

I do live in the Lexington area, moved here in 2007. I am no Transylvania historian by any stretch, but my guess would be that they were a NAIA school at that time like soo many current D-3 schools were in that timeframe. They played in the NAIA tournament in March of 2001 and joined the HCAC in the fall of 2001, my guess would be that is when they switched over to D-3.

NAIA for Transy back when I lived there makes sense. I did not realize they were so new to D3.

New, and yet not so new. Transylvania was a charter member of D3 back in the mid-'70s, and played in the first four D3 tourneys (although the Pioneers never got out of the first weekend). Somewhere around the turn of the '80s Transylvania reverted back to NAIA, presumably because D3 opponents were far and few in Kentucky -- the Bluegrass State has traditionally been NAIA territory, although that's been slowly changing over the years.

My guess is that when the HCAC expanded in the early '00s it seemed like a good move to Transy's braintrust go back to D3 via the HCAC because of the greater prestige with which D3 schools are regarded as compared to NAIA schools. Transy is a very old (1780) and respected school, and it makes sense that the people who run the school would want to keep affiliative company with the more academically elite schools of the Mid-South and Ohio Valley.

[sac]

Transylvania became a full D3 member in Fall of 2004.  They joined the HCAC in 2001 and believe they held dual NCAA/NAIA membership while transitioning.  Even participating in the 2003 NAIA tournament.  For basketball they played a mostly D3 schedule during those 3 transition years. 

I kind of wonder if Transy wasn't one of those early D3 schools that held onto their NAIA status throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's.  Sort of like how Neb. Wesleyan had to decide each year which tournament to participate in (or something like that).   I don't know their reasoning for going D3 but by the late 90's their NAIA Conference the KIAC was a smoldering pile of rubble as numerous schools defected to other leagues and divisions.  Transylvania may have had no choice but to go D3.

The HCAC added Defiance in 2000 and Transy in 2001 as replacements for Wabash who left for the NCAC and Wilmington who had left for the OAC.  I had forgotten Wilmington's short 3 year stint in the HCAC.  Wilmington a replacement for DePauw who had bolted for the SCAC.  Weird times then. 

[y_jack_lok]

^^^ sac and Sager, thanks for those history lessons.

[hopefan]

Games of  12/1/19

Johnson (Tenn.) (NCCAA-D2) 89, Oglethorpe 87      
Millsaps  69,  Mississippi women  (uscaa)  58      
Greensboro  95,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  80      
UW-Platteville  74,  Cardinal Stritch  (NAIA-D2)  67      

[hopefan]

No games on 12/2/19


Here's where D3 stands through games of 12/2   
D3 versus:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          8      
NCAA-D2                   1          8      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     19          12      
NCCAA-D1                   5          0      
NCCAA-D2                   25          9      
USCAA                        44          6      
Other                           2          0      

[hopefan]

Games of 12/3/19

Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2) 76, UC Santa Cruz 64
Concordia (Texas)  104,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 80, CCNY 67
Berry  77,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Centre  87,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Metro State (NCAA-D2) 79, Colorado College 47
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 81, Minnesota-Morris 75
Bob Jones (NCCAA-D2) 73, Brevard 66
N.C. Wesleyan  102,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  60

[Baldini]

It is going to be an interesting year in the NCCAA-2 tournament. Bob Jones, Johnson (Tenn.), Grace Christian and Randall all look like they have pretty good squads this year.