D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA

[hopefan]

Rhodes, a correction you might want to consider is to see where Lincoln Christian is in your data  -  I notice their games are not in your scores as a non NCAA team when they play SLIAC (D3) teams - They have dropped out of the SLIAC and the NCAA this year and should be considered NCCAA D2.  Not sure if you considered them as NCAA teams earlier in the year when they played other NCCAA teams....   Note- they are playing a full schedule of 18 games against SLIAC teams, because their decision came so late that everyone elected not to find new opponents. They are not SLIAC or NCAA games, so it will have a big impact on  your numbers

[Rhodes Scholar]

Rhodes, a correction you might want to consider is to see where Lincoln Christian is in your data  -  I notice their games are not in your scores as a non NCAA team when they play SLIAC (D3) teams - They have dropped out of the SLIAC and the NCAA this year and should be considered NCCAA D2.  Not sure if you considered them as NCAA teams earlier in the year when they played other NCCAA teams....   Note- they are playing a full schedule of 18 games against SLIAC teams, because their decision came so late that everyone elected not to find new opponents. They are not SLIAC or NCAA games, so it will have a big impact on  your numbers

Thanks for the input. I added Greenville vs. LC and Webster vs. LC to the scores, and I changed the totals. 

[Rhodes Scholar]

Scores from 12/13

Multnomah Bible (NCCAA 2) 68, Pacific 63
Waynesburg 86, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 75

[Rhodes Scholar]

Scores from 12/14

Albion 107, Marygrove (USCAA) 44
Bethel, TN (NAIA 1) 97, Rust 81
Briarcliffe (USCAA) 81, Montclair State 78 (OT)
Corban (NAIA 2) 82, Whitman 73
Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 83, Cornell 80
IU-Southeast (NAIA 2) 69, Kalamazoo 61
St. Vincent 73, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 63
Worecester State 67, Houghton (NAIA 2) 52

[smedindy]

Hey, can we ask teams to stop MOVING divisions so Rhodes can get caught up on who is where?? 

[Rhodes Scholar]

Scores from 12/15

Benedictine, KS (NAIA 2) 88, Buena Vista 82
Birmingham Southern 96, Southeastern (NCCAA 2) 76
Calvin 80, Trinity Christian (NAIA 2) 47
Dartmouth (D1) 88, Daniel Webster 52
Kalamazoo 66, Davenport (NAIA 2) 60
La Verne 78, Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 75
Madonna (NAIA 2) 86, Albion 80
Maine-Augusta (NAIA 2) 90, Maine-Presque Isle 61
Minnesota State-Moorhead (D2) 69, Concordia-Moorhead 47
Northern Iowa (D1) 99, Wartburg 48
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 92, North Park 75
Union, KY (NAIA 2) 76, St. Vincent 68
Wooster 89, Walsh (NAIA 2) 88

[CityD3]

So are they D3, USCAA or something in between.  They are scheduled for the D3 independents tournament at the end of the season but also have the USCAA tournament listed on the schedule.  Kind of like a D3 step child right now.

i think they are d3 provisional, but they are still affiliated with the USCAA until they officially get accepted into the NCAA...what's up wit the USCAA??I look at some of the teams' schedules and  they have some NCAA division II and division I on them.

[LogShow]

Scores from 12/13

Multnomah Bible (NCCAA 2) 68, Pacific 63

As an NWC supporter that score really depresses me.  And Pac started the season with so much hype.

[smedindy]

The USCAA schools will play pert near anyone to get games, I think.

[Rhodes Scholar]

Scores from 12/16

Minnesota State-Moorhead (D2) 93, Presentation 64
Whitman 81, Montana Tech (NAIA 1) 75

[Rhodes Scholar]

Scores from 12/17

Lawrence 73, Nova Southeastern (D2) 60
Millsaps 75, Belhaven (NAIA 1) 70
Pacific Lutheran 65, Simon Fraser (other) 62
Southwestern 72, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 66
St. Norbert 59, Northern Michigan (D2) 50 (OT)

[Rhodes Scholar]

Totals through 12/17

D3 vs.

D1....1-19
D2....14-43
NAIA 1....11-19
NAIA 2....79-64
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-11
Other....30-6

[LogShow]

Totals through 12/17

D3 vs.

D1....1-19
D2....14-43
NAIA 1....11-19
NAIA 2....79-64
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-11
Other....30-6

So that would make the overall D3 record against outside competition
                208-166  for a winning percentage of 56%

[smedindy]

Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.

[Rhodes Scholar]

Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.

Without question the NAIA offers the most evenly matched competition for D3. NAIA 1 is a bit stronger than D3 and NAIA 2 is more or less equal.