WBB: American Southwest Conference

dballa · February 03, 2007, 06:16:59 PM

I guess I need to play the lottery a little more after my predictions came true. 3-1 against the Abilene schools and the first to win 20 games this season.

Still a lot of games to play. The road trips to CUA and UMHB will be tough ones but the Lady Jackets shall overcome all obstacles.

Before this season people said HPU was all Meia Daniels this game proved how deep and strong they are.

Also I wanted to say how disrespectful and classless SOME of the McMurry fans were. The school, the president, and alumni such as yourself Ralph should be embarassed at how poorly their student body reflected their schools Christian values. Outside of that it was a great atmosphere for a basketball game.

mcmfan · February 03, 2007, 06:26:25 PM

A great win for HPU in Brownwood

and a tough loss for McM. HPU looked very sharp; what killed McM was a spate of HPU 3's in the first half that set us back, and we never really closed the lead after that. Meia Daniels got zero points, yet HPU still won: a great comment on their depth, I think. Get ready for the conference tournament in the Mausoleum; I believe HPU would have to lose two of its remaining games to move it anywhere else (if it loses just one, it would still have the point spread over McM in second place), and with a team this good, that just ain't gonna happen.

dballa: As for classless fans, I wouldn't talk, and as an earlier poster noted, it is certainly classless to reserve the best seats for your own fans -- every other place I've been divides up the seats equally. Maybe HPU fans at other stadiums should be prohibited from seating closer than ten feet from the court?

dballa · February 03, 2007, 06:31:14 PM

mcmfan, there are only two sets of bleacher seats on the floor. If you put both teams fans in those seats can you see them actually getting along

I know the school doesn't have a problem with having opposing teams fans who can't walk up the stairs stay down on the floor.

Where were the McMurry cheerleaders today? They are usually at the games in Brownwood.

dsc · February 03, 2007, 06:41:23 PM

So what were the "classless" fans doing that was so upseting? Which game? (W/M?)

Just curious...

dballa · February 03, 2007, 06:48:39 PM

Before the women's game the guys behind the south goal were yelling some things to one of our cheerleaders who was warming up who seemed to be pretty upset about it. Is that really necessary? Plus I got tired of hearing all the cuss words around me.

I love taunting and I love the atmosphere of a college game. But some things shouldn't be a part of it.

The one extremely big guy behind the goal when he lifted his shirt while our girl was shooting, i thought it was funny. Rather burned my eyes a bit seeing it but it was funny.

I'm not saying all the fans were like that there were some that were though.

Ralph Turner · February 03, 2007, 06:54:54 PM

Quote from: dballa on February 03, 2007, 06:16:59 PM
I guess I need to play the lottery a little more after my predictions came true. 3-1 against the Abilene schools and the first to win 20 games this season.

Still a lot of games to play. The road trips to CUA and UMHB will be tough ones but the Lady Jackets shall overcome all obstacles.

Before this season people said HPU was all Meia Daniels this game proved how deep and strong they are.

Also I wanted to say how disrespectful and classless SOME of the McMurry fans were. The school, the president, and alumni such as yourself Ralph should be embarassed at how poorly their student body reflected their schools Christian values. Outside of that it was a great atmosphere for a basketball game.

I didn't know I was going to get a "shout-out" today.

8)

I have been in 3 ASC gyms this season: UT-D, HSU and McMurry.

At UT-D, the HPU fans were right behind the HPU bench, in their "quarter" of the gymnasium. UT-D has an oversized gym that can be partitioned into 3 full-length basketball floors. The "retractable" seating goes back to the walls to reveal the other 2 floors. Coach K and the Lady Jackets ate their pizzas right behind the HPU men's bench during the men's game.

HSU's gym is similar. At the HPU-HSU game, there was ample seating in the visitor's quarter of the gym to support your team, and the HPU faithful went a long way towards neutralizing the Mabee crowd.

I saw the SRSU-McM men's game. The section behind the visitor's bench was reserved for the visitor's.

I have seen games in Gallego and at Austin College. No other team has the advantage of having the home student section so close to the court as at Brownwood.

dballa · February 03, 2007, 06:58:33 PM

Well Ralph I know how much you love your school and I know you wouldn't appreciate some of the things being said. But it's over with now and time to move on to next weeks games.

As far as the student section HPU does have an advantage like no other in this conference. But I don't believe anybody is going to tell schools like Duke that their students shouldn't be the only ones sitting on the opposite of the floor that close.

If schools didn't have their own home court advantage, we might as well just play every game on a neutral floor.

Ralph Turner · February 03, 2007, 07:12:34 PM

Quote from: dballa on February 03, 2007, 06:58:33 PM
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As far as the student section HPU does have an advantage like no other in this conference. But I don't believe anybody is going to tell schools like Duke that their students shouldn't be the only ones sitting on the opposite of the floor that close.
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If it is perceived as a problem in the conference, then the conference's presidents will deal with it.

mcmfan · February 03, 2007, 07:19:08 PM

The obvious solution if one wanted to be equitable (or fair) about the bleacher space would be to put a railing down the middle and have one half for HPU students and the other half for those of the visiting team. That's what we've done at McM with games where fan emotions might be high, as with HSU or HPU. For both those games, the bleachers were evenly divided and labeled. Why doesn't HPU do that?

As for the fat guy, you got off easy! Last week at the McM-HPU game, he had his shirt off the whole time... I don't know what the HPU fans thought, but I do know he grossed out a lot of McM people!

Incidentally, are bull horns considered "class" behavior by the fans? I noticed students from both schools using them.

Ralph Turner · February 03, 2007, 07:26:07 PM

Quote from: mcmfan on February 03, 2007, 07:19:08 PM

Incidentally, are bull horns considered "class" behavior by the fans? I noticed students from both schools using them.

The posters on the SCIAC boards talk about the big yellow janitorial service cones with "Peligro! Piso Mojado!" printed on the sides being used as megaphones!

dballa · February 03, 2007, 07:26:25 PM

Do you mean the megaphones? I don't know if the conference has a rule about that or not. Cheerleaders have them so I would think they would be legal. The only way they couldn't be is if they were used as a noisemaker. But as far as anything against any kind of rules they are fair game.

On the seating they probably could do something like that. But they would also have to bring in an extra set of bleachers or something like that to accomodate all the students.

It's pretty much just one of those things that has always been done and nobody has really said anything about it or had a problem with it until lately.

I would personally rather sit in a cushioned seat upstairs than on those old baseball bleachers.

mcmfan · February 03, 2007, 07:38:31 PM

QuoteBut they would also have to bring in an extra set of bleachers or something like that to accomodate all the students.

What's the difficulty? You just use the seats you have and tell everyone that it's first come, first served (or, in this case, seated).

fanstand · February 03, 2007, 08:53:59 PM

dballa, good win for your team, but DO not talk about some McM fans being any worse than the group of guys who were yelling over the edge at the bench and at the coaches from McM. They were as foul-mouthed and disrespectful as any one else in the gym. I've been coming to those games in Bwood long time and your fans are just as bad as McM, HSU or whoever, so I am sure you are just as "proud". And as for the games, we back to even, we will meet again....................

dballa · February 03, 2007, 09:31:30 PM

Actually no if they were acting as poorly as some of McM's fans, no I'm not proud of that. I'm proud of the fact that we had a large active and vocal crowd and that our ladies came out and played a great game.

FrmrHSUer · February 03, 2007, 10:10:06 PM

Good weekend for HPU. They played good and strong.

As long as "classless" was mentioned i figured i would throw this out there. the actions of the HPU coach were very classless(in my opinion) in 3 different games. The 3 games are hsu/hpu @hsu, hsu/hpu @ hpu and mcm/hpu @ hpu. in each of the games hpu had a good lead and the game was pretty much a win for hpu when the coach called a tiem out with 7 sec., 15 sec., and 29 secs left in the game. i feel there was absolutly no need for any of these time outs and feel they were all very classless.

as far as the fans, fans will be fans, regardless of the place. how about maybe spreading the bleachers apart and putting a rope between them, this is done every else and doesnt seem to be a problem

just my 2 cents