WBB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

golfniz, in your following HPU for four years, how much benefit does HPU get from playing at home?  In your humble opinion (IYHO), how many points is Home Court Advantage worth?

2005 -- Trinity at home
2006 -- beating Trinity at McMurry and then losing to HSU at McMurry
2007 -- bye, then destroying Chapman at home and then losing at Decorah IA
2008 -- Bye, then three games at home -- McMurry and DeSales and Hope, and then Final Four.

Thanks in advance. 

[JACKET84]

 I don't believe I said the HPU girls were lucky.  I stated that HPU was lucky to get to host those games.  They hosted due to some local merchants poneying up $ to update the colisuem.  If those people had not done so, HPU would have played all of their games on the road.  I think that made a huge difference. 

Yes, I've probably watched more HPU games (men and women) than you'll ever know.  Even before the coliseum was built, and HPU had a women's team.  I did think HPU could beat Hope.  We were playing them at home, with our crowd, and our great team.  I knew HPU had to play a great game to win, and they did. 

All I'm saying is playing at home in the playoffs is a huge advantage.  I dont' like playoffs that allow a team to have home court advantage.  Period.  Hope has the chance again this year to win the national championship at home.  I don't believe that's fair, but that's DIII.

I think HPU could have beat Puget Sound, and Transy in Brownwood, but they didn't on a neutral court.

[golden_dome]

I don't think it's a disservice to the HPU National Championship team, but there's no question playing at home was a huge factor last season. This is just an opinion, but if that sectional is hosted by Hope College then I don't think they make it to the Final Four. And I thought HPU had a great team with the best player in the country.

It is very rare for an ASC team to host a sectional, and HPU was very fortunate it worked out like it did. We've had several ASC teams, both men and women, who I think could have reached the Final Four if they host sectionals. I think the 2007 HPU team was a Final Four team if they play in Brownwood, HSU has had a couple women's teams I think could have made it if they hosted sectionals. McMurry's women last year was also right there. For the men, I think McMurry had teams in 1999-2000 who could have made it at home. The MC teams in 2005-06 were Final Four caliber IMO if they host sectionals.

Home court advantage for ASC teams plays a much bigger role than for teams in the midwest-northeast. When we travel it is hopping on a plane, travelling with very few fans and having games officiated by local officials from a different part of the country who usually call a much more physical style game. On the flipside, when we host sectionals then we get the advantage of all those scenarios with huge crowds, hopefully tired legs from opponents, few fans from other schools and officials we've used all year.

[Sioux]

Anybody know of any committments to ASC schools? Only one I know of is Sidney Skeen of Early to McMurry.

[Ralph Turner]

Anybody know of any commitments to ASC schools? Only one I know of is Sidney Skeen of Early to McMurry.

Hello, Sioux!  No, I haven't. 

[thomasthetank]

If Mississippi College brings in a good class they should be good again

[Ralph Turner]

Congratulations to Ashley Huston at HSU for winning the Heptathlon.

HSU finished 8th with 22 points.

Also performing at the Nationals, TLU tied for 41st with 6 pts, and McMurry tied for 73rd with 1 point.

[Ralph Turner]

Congratulations ASC Women! 

#2 in the country in attendance...

and to McMurry  coming in at #8, with the help of our friends who attended the ASC tourney, where McMurry's attendance numbers benefited from great crowds.

[JACKET84]

Congratulations ASC Women! 

#2 in the country in attendance...

and to McMurry  coming in at #8, with the help of our friends who attended the ASC tourney, where McMurry's attendance numbers benefited from great crowds.

I would like to know how they come up with these figures.  I know at HPU, some people have passes, some pay, etc.  I think it's all estimations.

[lewis]

HPU did not have any post season home games this year to factor into home attendance average.

[JACKET84]

I understand that HPU didn't play any post season games, which would have boosted their average attendance.  My question is how do they come up with the numbers.  I've been to games at HPU, McMurry & HSU.  The way people enter, leave, re-enter, I'm not sure how they get a true count.

[Ralph Turner]

I understand that HPU didn't play any post season games, which would have boosted their average attendance.  My question is how do they come up with the numbers.  I've been to games at HPU, McMurry & HSU.  The way people enter, leave, re-enter, I'm not sure how they get a true count.

The way that everyone else in D-III comes up with a count.         

[JACKET84]

Guess + Estimate / 2 = Guesstimate   

[pistol pete 22]

Found this on UT Tyler athletic website...

Deike's Contract Not Renewed by University

The University of Texas at Tyler has chosen not to renew the contract of head women's basketball coach and associate athletic director Terri Deike.

"We thank Coach Deike for her dedication and service to UT Tyler, the athletics department, and the women's basketball program," said UT Tyler Athletic Director James Vilade. "Coach Deike played a major role in helping UT Tyler move toward NCAA membership and she was involved in many other facets of the athletics department."

Assistant Coach Cassi Little will assume the women's basketball coaching duties on an interim basis and a national search for a new head coach will begin immediately.  Deike will continue in her role as associate athletics director until August 31st.

Deike was UT Tyler's first women's basketball coach and had a 90-61 record over six seasons. Her teams won three American Southwest Conference East Division championships and appeared in the ASC tournament twice.


....There must be something goin on here cuz Deike did an amazing job building that program so fast, I did  some more research and found this article

http://www.tylerpaper.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090701/SPORTS06/907010312

She doesnt sound happy at all. Lot of interesting quotes in that article. It also says Becky Taylor transferred to HSU....whats goin on at UTT? anybody know?

[Tennessee_papa]

"....There must be something goin on here cuz Deike did an amazing job building that program so fast, I did  some more research and found this article"

The situation looks moderately nasty.

And the school picked a heck of a time to do this.  By the end of June most kids have decided where they're going to go, and obviously the coach is a pretty important factor related to where you want to go to school and play.  This happened to my kid, but fortunately there was enough time to evaluate the change and make a somewhat (arguably barely) informed decison.  I can't imagine how much turmoil we'd be going through if the school she committed to had fired their coach yesterday.

And what's up the the thing about her having "25 players coming in"?  Don't know if that's 25 new kids or 25 including returnees, but either way it's way to many for a sport in which five at a time play.