WBB: American Southwest Conference

[SabineBBall]

UTD 70 at UO 56 tonight.  UT Tyler coming in to town Thursday.  UTD can all but wrap up the east title with a win! I am sure UTT will get after it to keep that from happening against them!

[SabineBBall]

I see the newest poll makes my point about the ASC conference.  Lose to Miss on the road drop 7.  Beat Miss college go up 3 and get jumped by 2 new teams.  I don't know who does this poll but does the ASC have a rep that votes?  It appears all the voters are located up north!

[Ralph Turner]

I see the newest poll makes my point about the ASC conference.  Lose to Miss on the road drop 7.  Beat Miss college go up 3 and get jumped by 2 new teams.  I don't know who does this poll but does the ASC have a rep that votes?  It appears all the voters are located up north!

Actually the Poll has 3 representatives from the South Region, it is just that as big as the ASC is, we only have 15 teams of the 400+ that play basketball.  Some of the South Region love is going to 2008 Final Four Oglethorpe.

Nobody sees us that frequently.  The HPU rose lost its bloom.  We don't have a new "queen".

There are some very strong teams in our way, too.  The George Fox team has my attention.  Two years ago, HPU (with 2008 POTY Meia Daniels) had 2 fastbreak points in a loss to Puget Sound which had beaten McMurry and GFU.  GFU has just reloaded since then.

I am not worried about top 25's.  The women don't have to carry that pressure on them.  Getting out of a "Texas Sub-bracket" will be tough enough.   

[Ralph Turner]

Massey Ratings MOV has UTD #9 overall, and the ASC at #8 as a conference (even with our bottom 6 teams.)

See also MissColl #13, McMurry #23, HSU #24, LaColl #48, HPU #49, UMHB #61, UTT #62, and CTX #101 out of 439 rated teams in D-III.

Our Post-season tourney will come from the top 15% of D-III teams.

[SabineBBall]

I understand the data just not the poll lol.  How many more in region wins do you think UTD needs to get (at worse) a Pool C bid?

[Ralph Turner]

I think that UTD gets a bid if they make the ASC tourney finals.

Regional Rankings come out on Wednesday.

[SabineBBall]

So they could finish 22 and 2 in region in regular season and lose early in the tourney and not get in? That would be tough.  How many teams from ASC do you see making the tourney? 

[Ralph Turner]

So they could finish 22 and 2 in region in regular season and lose early in the tourney and not get in? That would be tough.  How many teams from ASC do you see making the tourney? 

We had three in 2006 when HSU made the Final Four, but I would like to see two.

[Pat Coleman]

I see the newest poll makes my point about the ASC conference.  Lose to Miss on the road drop 7.  Beat Miss college go up 3 and get jumped by 2 new teams.  I don't know who does this poll but does the ASC have a rep that votes?  It appears all the voters are located up north!

The ASC has a voter, yes.

[JACKET84]

I'm guessing the conference will have at most 2 teams going this year, and they could possibly play each other in the first round.

[golden_dome]

I see the newest poll makes my point about the ASC conference.  Lose to Miss on the road drop 7.  Beat Miss college go up 3 and get jumped by 2 new teams.  I don't know who does this poll but does the ASC have a rep that votes?  It appears all the voters are located up north!

Sabine,
   You have to realize there are eight regions across the country. The south currently has four teams in the poll which is probably about right. There are also only 6-7 conferences with multiple teams in the poll, and the ASC is one of them.  Pat does do a good job with his polls and the voters are very informed, and they are spread out across the country.

I agree with you though and would have UTD and MC a bit higher in the poll, but I can understand why they are not. Neither have been in the Top 25 before, and in UTD's case their program has been pretty bad the last 4-5 years until a decent year last year and a great season this year. They are earning some respect this year, getting UTD's name out there, and could very well be a preseason top 10 team next year with everyone returning.

[Ralph Turner]

2.10.2009 | Women's Basketball
Belton, TX- Jennifer Herman led the Concordia University Texas women's basketball team to a 71-68 victory, over the University of Mary Hardin Baylor on Tuesday night in Belton. The victory improves Concordia to 9-10 overall and 9-8 in the ASC while, Mary Hardin Baylor falls to 10-11 overall and 9-8 in the ASC.--CTX website

That gives CTX the tie-breaker for 4th place.  Congratulations to Coach Cochran!  Your ladies have their destiny in their own hands.

(Errata on the D3Hoops.com web site.  LaCollege women beat CTX women 68-50. )

http://athletics.concordia.edu/schedule.aspx?path=wbball&

[Ralph Turner]

http://www.d3hoops.com/school/HPU/womens/2009

HPU has a three-game lead over CTX and UMHB.

Look who HPU must play in the last four games.

(CTX and UMHB have finished the regular season versus McM and HSU!)

Isn't this a fun time of the year!!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Regional rankings posted:
http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/02/11/ncaa-regional-rankings/

[millie]

Hello Ralph and other oldies..
Its been 3 or 4 yrs since I posted but have had very close eye on whats been going on...almost got stirred up on several occasions to post but calmed myself and did not...o.k Ralph or Pat or whoever wants to answer this question...If the polls are going to have a impact on the NCAA tourny...(and for years we have heard , oh they have been ranked in the regionals and in the top 25...so they deserve........) Then how in blue blazes can Mc Murry not only be ranked in the regionals but ranked ahead of Mississippi College....when McM is not even in the top 25? (and yes I know McM beat MC..happens all the time, records aren't the same)
Could it be that the powers that be can not stand NOT having a team from the west ranked and this is from past history and not performance?
I have watched this year and I have not known if I should laugh or get mad....how many years have I watched this board and listened to the blowhards from the west ignore the entire other side of the conference...and this year the boards are silent...I just wish Golf Nut was arround to see this.......I am surprised that they have not discontinued this board for lack of use....
Ralph, thanks for staying arround even if you don't have many people to talk to.