WBB: American Southwest Conference

HPU75 · January 21, 2007, 07:42:18 PM

I am an HPU grad and fan, but I have to agree with Ralph. HPU as a team and the ASC as a conference have not paid enough dues (i.e., tournament success) to claim we(or any ASC team) deserve No 1; however, after HSU went to the final four last year with what I think(as evidenced by the head-to-head games) was a similar team as McMurry or HPU last year, we are all getting closer to that national respect. As I have said, I have seen MCM twice , HSU once and now HPU twice in person. I was at the HPU/UMHB game yesterday and while HPU did not play super well and UMHB shot very well--especially 3 pointers and mid range jumpers-- it was good to see our team get challenged and respond. Meia Daniels is VERY VERY difficult to stop to put it mildly. Kim Hoffman played very well also, but our posts not quite as much. Next week will be very interesting.

I am convinced HPU(as well the Abilene duo) can play with any of those teams in the top echelon, but even I would not go that high(#1) yet!! If we run the gauntlet the next couple of weeks--which I frankly think will be almost impossible to do-- I may change my mind!!

HPU75 · January 21, 2007, 07:51:09 PM

HPU ALSO GOT VERY NICE GAMES OFF THE BENCH YESTERDAY FROM DAPHNIE PIPPINS AND HOPE HOHERTZ--AND WE NEEDED IT!! UMHB PLAYED VERY WELL. UMHB'S COACH SAT HER STARTERS DOWN FOR MUCH OF THE HSU GAME'S SECOND HALF THE SATURDAY BEFORE AND THEY SEEMED TO RESPOND YESTERDAY.

jmnaseum · January 21, 2007, 10:37:50 PM

Ralph -- The biggest upset of the year??? SR over CUA
How about ETBU over UTT or McM over HPU tomorrow

Ralph Turner · January 21, 2007, 11:24:52 PM

Quote from: jmnaseum on January 21, 2007, 10:37:50 PM
Ralph -- The biggest upset of the year??? SR over CUA
How about ETBU over UTT or McM over HPU tomorrow

HPU plays CUA tomorrow after a long trip back from Alpine.

I don't think that a home McMurry win over HPU is an upset.

Realistically, the HPU-HSU-McM series are all rivalry games, every year.

thundercat · January 22, 2007, 11:29:40 AM

Quote from: HPU75 on January 21, 2007, 07:42:18 PM
HPU as a team and the ASC as a conference have not paid enough dues (i.e., tournament success) to claim we(or any ASC team) deserve No 1; however, after HSU went to the final four last year with what I think(as evidenced by the head-to-head games) was a similar team as McMurry or HPU last year, we are all getting closer to that national respect.

Unfortunately, the NCAA may never allow more than one ASC team a shot at the Final Four with the way it is set up right now. What a shame if HPU, HSU and MCM have to play at the same first/second round site and therefore play each other. I would love to see at least one team host from other regions or be sent to another region.

HPU75, I agree that the #1 ranking would be a little bit of a stretch right now for HPU. UMHB was really their first true test of the season, even though UTT and ETBU are also very good teams. I think HPU definitely has the talent to be #1, but have not earned that ranking just yet. After the next few weeks we will have a better look at where we stand.

sethhpu · January 22, 2007, 11:35:47 AM

Ralph, just listened to Hoopsville, very interesting comments made by Pat. I agree with him but I also think if McM or HSU wins three straight meaning the head to head then the two games agaisnt HPU they should be legit top 10. Should be an interesting two weeks.

Rob Don · January 22, 2007, 12:12:48 PM

Quote from: inthepaint on January 17, 2007, 03:02:21 PM
I'm certainly not giving up but I have to agree that HPU is stronger this season than I, for one, have ever seen! It may be a stretch to say they are a Final Four contender but this is the first year that I remember in which it is not out of the question!

I am not giving up so much as I am refraining from my annual anti-HPU/pro-HSU rants! The Jackets are something to shout about this season!

You are all witnessing a kinder, more gentle In the Paint!

Paint...Its good to hear from ya, been awhile. Looks like that ol' HPU coach is doing alright in bwood. must be the snicker bars

And i do agree that its a stretch to make it to the final four, its a stretch for anyone to beat one great team after another to get that far. Nonetheless...This is the best HPU team i've ever seen; and ive seen all the previous teams...these girls are somthing special! I look forward to the coming weeks of bball!

inthepaint · January 22, 2007, 04:32:34 PM

In the past I have been reluctant to jump on the HPU bandwagon because of, primarily, coaching. Their coaching staff was inexperienced and it takes great coaching along with great talent to navagate the challenges of postseason play. With each passing season and each new accomplishment their experience level grows exponentially. In the past HPU's coaching staff got "schooled" by other ASC coaches who simply had so much more experience. That is no longer the case. The grid of coaching experience and athletic talent may be right for an HPU postseason run.

As others have pointed out, HPU faces a heavy challenge in their contests with the Abilene perenial powerhouses. This will be a test of the HPU program. We'll see just how prepared they are. They certainly seem to be ready. It will be fun to watch.

It is certainly nice to see more than one ASC team as true contenders for significant postseason play!

ETigerBU · January 22, 2007, 08:11:01 PM

Quote from: jmnaseum on January 21, 2007, 10:37:50 PM
Ralph -- The biggest upset of the year??? SR over CUA
How about ETBU over UTT or McM over HPU tomorrow

I don't see how anyone can say that ETBU over UTT was an upset. Going into the game, ETBU was up a game and a half on UTT. So ETBU was statistically favored to win the game. The upset would have been UTT over ETBU.

Ralph Turner · January 22, 2007, 08:23:43 PM

HSU 77, McM 67; Congratulations, Pirate-on-the-Brazos!

calhsu · January 22, 2007, 08:30:14 PM

Got to listen to the last four minutes of the game. Love to listen to MCM radio people explain things. (my favorite was when they said that three game in four days finally caught up with McM. It seems to me that every lady on the court for both team had done the same.)

No time for you MCM fans to get upset. Time to deal with the Brownwood invasion.

Can coach Briggs get credit for second half adjustments?

sethhpu · January 22, 2007, 08:36:22 PM

I was listening to the McM HSU game as well, my first pleasure of McM radio. I loved the constant comments at the refs.

Ralph Turner · January 22, 2007, 08:39:02 PM

Is HSU not broadcasting any games this year besides football?

Pat Coleman · January 22, 2007, 08:39:45 PM

There seems to be a lot of biased broadcasting in the state of Texas, let's be honest.

Ralph Turner · January 22, 2007, 08:40:37 PM

Quote from: calhsu on January 22, 2007, 08:30:14 PM
Got to listen to the last four minutes of the game. Love to listen to MCM radio people explain things. (my favorite was when they said that three game in four days finally caught up with McM. It seems to me that every lady on the court for both team had done the same.) No time for you MCM fans to get upset. Time to deal with the Brownwood invasion.

Can coach Briggs get credit for second half adjustments?

Cal, you also heard the McMurry announcers say that HSU women dominated McM in the second half.