WBB: American Southwest Conference

[FrmrHSUer]

HSU had 24 turnovers and 29 boards. So much for cutting down on turnovers. The story of the game.

Good game HPU, better luck next time to my cowgirls.

I'm 0-1 in Brownwood, maybe my trip there on saturday will be better.

And an interesting fact that the HPU announcer stated, HPU was the first team in 10 years to beat HSU cowgirls twice in season. Nice job lady jackets.

[Ralph Turner]

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And an interesting fact that the HPU announcer stated, HPU was the first team in 10 years to beat HSU cowgirls twice in season. Nice job lady jackets.

Most accurately,

HPU was the first team in 10 years to beat HSU cowgirls twice in the regular season.

McMurry defeated HSU twice in the 2004-05 season, knocking them out of the tourney semi-finals.  Remember! 

[fanstand]

What they were saying on the news in Abilene last night, was this is the first time the Cowgirls were swept during the regular season. Hopefully that is what LIB can do to HPU.  You know I think they can! The game Saturday is big, I had both radios going last night, listening to the two games. Showdown in Browntown........ Go LIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[inthepaint]

Three teams out of the west go to the conference tournament, right? 

[dballa]

4 teams go from each side.  UMHB has that 4th spot pretty much wrapped up.

[choctawmaniac]

Pat Coleman is very serious about honoring copyright laws.  One should not "cut and paste" another news story, but rather give the hyperlink so all can read the original story.  I am using my capabilities as a moderator on the baseball boards to modify this post.

Thanks for the "heads-up" on what is happening in Pineville.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070202/NEWS01/702020325

s/ Ralph Turner




LC already has serious problems as a school. Does this add to it?


Six Lady Cats basketball players quit LC program
By Randy Benson and Bob Tompkins
rbenson@thetowntalk.com, btompkins@thetowntalk.com
(318) 487-6431, (318) 487-6349

Six players, including starters Carol Elder and Ashley Peairs, have quit the Louisiana College women's basketball team.

Thirteen players walked off the court -- leaving first-year coach Robin Potera-Haskins with four players -- during practice earlier this week to meet with athletic director Tim Whitman. Seven players subsequently returned to the team.

"They didn't do it to hurt the basketball program," said Lynn Peairs of Pride, father of Ashley Peairs. "They came into a program where basketball was secondary and helping the girls become well-rounded, moral, Christian girls was more important. I think they knew after a week or so (after the start of practice) that that program is no longer there."
Louisiana College played its first game without the six players Thursday night, losing 77-51 to East Texas Baptist University in Marshall, Texas.

Whitman confirmed Thursday that he met with a group of players.

"There were discussions," Whitman said. "We had six kids decide not to play the rest of the games." (remainder deleted)

[thundercat]

Wow, what is going on at LC?  I would love to know the whole story.  There was a lot of speculation on the hiring of the coach and why she got the job as she didn't seem to fit the university and their belief structure.  Makes you wonder!

Congrats to HPU on the win.  Always nice to beat a rival.  We have one more on saturday and then can shift our sights.  Continue to work hard and take care of the rebounding this time!  BLOCK OUT!  I am sure you have heard it from Coach K a few times.  I have complete faith in you all and will be cheering from my computer! 

Defense, clap, clap, defense, clap, clap, defense. 

[Josh Bowerman]

Wow, what is going on at LC?  I would love to know the whole story.  There was a lot of speculation on the hiring of the coach and why she got the job as she didn't seem to fit the university and their belief structure.  Makes you wonder!

Quite to the contrary, I think she fits the model of what kind of staff member LC's administration and trustees are looking for perfectly.  Remember, this is the school that was put on probation by SACS for allowing the trustees to approve the text and lesson plans professors were using in the classroom (presumably because they wanted to ensure they didn't conflict with the school's religious mores).

Just food for thought.

[thundercat]

I have heard differently about her values, but will take your word for it as my knowledge is just hearsay!

[Josh Bowerman]

Scuttlebutt in here (see ASC thread pages 91 & 92) was that she was (allegedly) a religious zealot who had players leave her program before (presumably) because she was trying to prostelytize them all the time. 

At least that's what I read into the information.  Ergo my post about her fitting in well with the LC brass....

[ETigerBU]

Just a question...

What exactly must ETBU do in order to start getting national attention?

We are 17-4 and the 4 is coming from 3 nationally ranked teams (with an extremely close game or two in there) and a Division II school.  This might be a bold prediction but at some point the Lady Tigers are going to make someone stand up and start paying attention to them!

[mcmfan]

That's a good question.  Obviously, you need to knock off one of the ranked teams in the conference tournament.  But for the NCAA, that may already be too late.  Unless you win the tournament, you probably won't get an at-large bid from the NCAA unless you already have that national ranking/recognition: hence last year HSU got in to the post season even though UMHB got further in the tournament.  Clearly a Catch-22 situation.

[heatlee]

Six players quitting on a coach during that coach's career, probable.  Six players quitting in a season, someone should be looking into it.  This is not a good situation.

[Ralph Turner]

Just a question...

What exactly must ETBU do in order to start getting national attention?

We are 17-4 and the 4 is coming from 3 nationally ranked teams (with an extremely close game or two in there) and a Division II school.  This might be a bold prediction but at some point the Lady Tigers are going to make someone stand up and start paying attention to them!

ETigerBU, you asked the question.  Let me answer it from the perspective of an outside consultant.  No malice intended, but the answers I will give you are variations of the same theme.  (I want the quality of ASC basketball to be recognized nationally, and have for the 7 years I have been on this site.)

1)  Look at the non-conference schedule.  There is no game on this year's schedule that helps one bit with Top 25 or the NCAA Playoff calculations.  NAIA's D2's or D1's are worthless.  You have 4 NAIA's and a D2.  Those count nothing!  Your schedule should be no more than Wylie as "city-benefit game" sponsored by the Lions Club or the YMCA as a fundraiser and maybe a "money game" from a D1.  Otherwise, your non-conference games should be South Region "in-region". Even Louisiana College's win over a D1 is now forgotten.

2)  Schedule in-region D3 opponents that are nationally ranked.  If you had played South Region opponents that have a solid winning record (e.g., > .700 percentage), then the nation would be saying something.  HPU, HSU, McM all played teams with a national reputation in the non-conference.  In fact, those teams have tried to get national recognition via their schedules for several years.  Click on the non-conference schedules.  As it is now, you are just another team that has lost to those 3.  If you had victories over South Region opponents Hendrix and Oglethrope in the non-conference, then I believe you would be receiving votes.

3)  Consider the western US for some games. With the new Administrative Region guideline change for in-region games, you can schedule any team from Missouri, Illinois and Wisconsin westward and have it count as in-region.

4)  Schedule very tough "out-of-region" non-conference games against well-respected teams from the MIAA, the OAC or teams that are always in the Top 25.  You may catch them in an off-year, but no one knows that yet in November, and that is when teams show up on the radar screens.  This may not help with Playoff Calculations, but it does help the general reputation of the team.

This may mean spending the bucks to go on a big trip every year, but if the players have demonstrated that excellence, then they need the investment from the university.

[Pat Coleman]

Just a question...

What exactly must ETBU do in order to start getting national attention?

We are 17-4 and the 4 is coming from 3 nationally ranked teams (with an extremely close game or two in there) and a Division II school.  This might be a bold prediction but at some point the Lady Tigers are going to make someone stand up and start paying attention to them!

What Ralph said. ETBU is playing a closed schedule. No D-III non-conference games. If you want to be ranked in D-III, play D-III teams.