WBB: American Southwest Conference

[ETigerBU]

Another great win for ETBU today, easily taking the number 1 of the East to the conference tourney! 3 games left and then it's time for us to make a point!

[Ralph Turner]

Here is another buzzer-beater from about 75'.

Jasmin Bacon at El Paso Hanks HS.

There are some commercials attached. 

[Ralph Turner]

Congratulations to HPU on the front page story and thanks to McMurry SID Kyle Robarts for filing the game report.

[Pat Coleman]

Big day today -- decided to run two front page stories, one with just women's coverage and one with men's.

[Ralph Turner]

Big day today -- decided to run two front page stories, one with just women's coverage and one with men's.

Thanks Pat!  Witt/Woo and McMurry/HPU!  That is hard to beat for Championship basketball.

ASC friends, I think that the emergence of 3 and maybe 4 or 5 (UMHB, ETBU) quality programs of national quality, we are finally getting the chance to toughen ourselves for NCAA tournament play.  I know that the West is getting that way.  Those ASC West matchups have been Championship quality efforts.  HSU had the talent in the erly part of this decade, but I don't think that those earlier Cowgirl teams had the opponents to take their games to the next level as we have seen this season and last.

I need ETBU to get a top quality non-conference schedule, and we need to watch for the emergence of Southwestern as a top quality program.  We will see some great women's basketball.

[McM93]

I have read on here for a couple of days about classless fans and whatever else at the HPU-MCM game.  I think that the fans for both teams did really well in representing their universities.  We got shut up real quick by HPU's hot shooting.  If there was cursing going on, those people should be ashamed of themselves because of all the younger kids that were at the game.  As far as the HPU fans by the court, it is their court they can do what they want within the rules.  At our gym, we can get as close as we want opposite the team benches and nobody says anything.  I have seen our fans on the court during pregame standing basically in the opposing teams layup line!!!

I am a McM fan and what most of us need to see is that HPU put on a clinic.  Their all-american didn't score but the TEAM still killed us.  I guess they do go deeper than one player.  With this being true why did we concentrate on one player?

We have to have better play out of our guards, we can't rely on Richardson to get us wins in the tournament and playoffs!!

Anyway, that is my opinion!!!

[Rob Don]

ok ok enough with the oooooo our fans are more christian than yours talk...geez, yall sound like babies.  Eveybody knows that fans are fans...some are really rude while others have class.  it is the combination of the two that form great fan followings. 

I've argued with people on here over and over but i never let those comments slip to the level of fighting over who's fans are nicer! lol

So seriously lets try to keep the posting on basketball chit-chat and general trashtalking ok people! 

On the more optimistic side of things (for me at least) it looks like several questions have been answered about the "realness" of HPU.

1. they are deep
2. they can beat good teams as well bad ones
3. their fans are nicer than yours...kidding 

Looking forward to the Final Four,

RobDon

[fanstand]

McM93, for the past two years, Meia has been the pulse of the HPU offense, that is why she is an All American. This year HPU has been playing good defense and the attention I believe has shifted from Meia as their "threat" to a more balanced attack, no one denies that. Buker had a huge game, she only averages 5 to 6 points a game offensively and she stepped up. I believe their post play this year is greatly improved, and yesterday they all played well. Our guards did not even have an average day. I don't think we concentrated only on Meia, had we played defensively as well in the first half as the second, maybe the game could have been closer. HPU was able to relax. Had  we been able to cut to single digits in the last 10 minutes and they would have felt the pressure as we did to them in the first game, we may have made a rally.  Amber had 12 points for us and that was above her average,but we couldn't get outside shots because of their defense and it hurt us. 

It's too bad such an atmosphere has to include unsportsmanlike conduct and whinning, and cursing.  I have had heard too many conversations from young people where the f-bomb is just another adjective in their speech. It's not only the young who do not need to hear such, have respect for the older too!

[Ralph Turner]

Looking forward to the Final Four,

RobDon

If we (McM) get eliminated, then I agree that that is the minimum that we should expect from this HPU team. 

Then how long does Coach K stay at HPU? 

Julie Goodenough jumped to Okie State.
Doug Davalos jumped to Texas State-San Marcos.

8)

[calhsu]

I hate it some times when I am right.   A week ago I predicted a HPU sweep.  I certainly wasn't  hoping for it but I was not surprised.   My hat is off to the jackets they are  real and I think they have nothing else to prove in the ASC.   They are the champs.

Now it is a whole other matter about them going to the final four.   If they make the sweet  sixteen I would say that they had done a great deal in taking the program where they want it.   Now I know some of you hate when I bring up the past so I just will say this.   The teams that make the final four rarely just show up.   Trinity winning was the exception not the rule.    Even HSU who I love and respect have never  beaten the top eastern or midwestern teams.   They have beaten lots of southern teams and west coast  teams.   So as far as I know how many NCAA tourney games has HPU  won,  1-2 maybe.  If you can win two this year you double your wins.

As far as HSU goes,  I am not disappointed in this years team.  They are a good solid team with several players making contributions,  which is the kind of team I really like.  But the difference between them and McM and HPU is they do not have the one go to player.  Four four years HSU had Kendra Anderson,  before that they had a player named Otwell.    I'm not disrespecting any of the players they have.
I am afraid unless they Cowgirls play really well in the conference playoffs they will not get invited to the big dance.  HPU is in unless they lose ever game from now on and that is not going to happen.  MCM is in except if they lose lots,  and mainly because of the win over HPU.   Unless HSU makes the conference finals they  will be thinking of next year.

Oh,  by the way if any of the HSU players read this and if I have ticked you off I really hope you go out and show me I don't know what I am talking about.  I would feel so bad if you did.

[Rob Don]

Then how long does Coach K stay at HPU? 

Julie Goodenough jumped to Okie State.
Doug Davalos jumped to Texas State-San Marcos.

8)

Good question...but lets remember that we are talking about a guy that has consecutively had the best season in HPU history every season...one after the other there has been a step forward each time...so i say he stays till he takes it all! 

but i've been wrong before; once or twice 

[McM93]

Takes what, a national championship?  I guess we will have ole Coach K around a long time then!!!

[Ralph Turner]

calhsu, good morning.

I think that we are "seeing" HPU (and hopefully McMurry in the Abilene HPU game) take it to the next level.  HPU's defense on Saturday must have been "smothering".  Playoff atmosphere and situations, big noisy crowd, everything came together for that game.

We (speaking for the conference) need to break thru to that level in a style of play.  I think that HPU has the 7 or 8 players who can fill their roles. In observing the Lady Jackets at HSU, I think that I identified them.  As for HSU, I thought that they were a (pure) point guard away from having it.  I like the top 7-8 players for HSU as well.

As for McMurry, we need the top 7-8 to take it to the next level.  Tarra and Symbri have carried this team.  When I saw the turnover to assist ratio from the HPU game, I realized that no team had done that to us all year, not even UW-Stout.  Those numbers occur when the other team has "smothered" your point guard and no one was getting open to receive the pass!

I really believe that we are dealing with superlatives here.  These teams are that good.  HSU without an Anderson or an Otwell will win at least 30 of the 39 conferences this year.  ETBU might win 30 of the 39 as well. For McM and HPU, it is going to the next level. 

[Bench Coach]

I hadn't seen the posts until today.  This is my first time to post, but I have watched the room for a long time now.  I just had a comment about the classlessness of some of the schools that everyone has been talking about.  I believe that one of the most classless acts that has happened is a player....not naming anyone or school....that taunts the other players bench and coaches.  I believe it is all fun and games when you make a good shot, but don't rub it in people's faces.  As I have heard a very good coach say, "act like it was suppose to happen."

[inthepaint]

Then how long does Coach K stay at HPU? 

Julie Goodenough jumped to Okie State.
Doug Davalos jumped to Texas State-San Marcos.

8)

Would Coach K bring the resume of a Goodenough or Davalos to the table?  This is an interesting thought and one that HPU fans don't even want to consider.  The truth is pretty simple; success at a DIII school often opens doors at a DI program.  I suppose he could leave should his success at HPU continue?

What do HPU fans think about this?  I would love to read what you are thinking!