WBB: American Southwest Conference

Ralph Turner · February 07, 2007, 11:13:31 PM

Josh, I ran the numbers on the QOWI. That is the source of the advantage for Oglethorpe.

OU's QOWI is 10.5. (I calculate 189 QOW points in 18 games.) They have wins over in-region ranked opponents DePauw and Hendrix (as well as IWU). Their only loss to a ranked team is to Maryville.

They earned these point totals for these wins...Emory 11, LaGrange 13, Piedmont 14, Agnes Scott 12, Ferrum 14, DePauw 14, Rhodes 13, Sewanee 10, Southwestern 11, Austin College 12 and Hendrix 14.

For McMurry, I count an in-region loss to UW-Stout and splitting with HPU.
I calculate the QOWI as ~~9.85~~10.00 (~~197~~ 200* points in 20 games).

McM LIB earned these point totals for these wins...Guilford 11, Miss Coll 12, at HSU12 15*, ETBU 15, Concordia IL 11, UTT 14, UMHB 15, CUA 11, HPU 14.

The ASC is hurt by our poorer quality teams and the fact that we win so few in-region games. Our 21 game conference schedule prevents us from boosting our records against teams in other conferences. Oglethorpe does have teams from 3 other conferences within a 3 hour drive that they can play.(UAA-Emory; GSAC- Piedmont, LaGrange, Agnes Scott, Spelman and Maryville TN; USAC-Averett, Ferrum.)

Coach Nichols went out and got 3 South Region games out of 4 non-conference (at host Guilford NC; neutral site in Georgetown versus UW-Stout and Concordia IL.)

By the criteria, it looks like OU has earned it.

* Correction, the McM win at HSU was worth 15 points! Thanks, friend, for the off-line correction!

gccfan · February 08, 2007, 10:08:08 AM

Ralph, thanks for the explanation. I have always felt like it hurts us to have to play 20+ conference games a year when you can only play 20 total.

Bench Coach · February 08, 2007, 01:52:56 PM

I say LIB go win these next 4 games and then go to Bwood and take care of business and don't worry about needing a bid.....win the conference tournament and take it all!!!

GO LIB!!!!

Josh Bowerman · February 08, 2007, 02:26:25 PM

Outstaning piece on small-town Texas girls basketball on ESPNs front page right now:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=nazareth

Thought you all would enjoy.

gccfan · February 08, 2007, 03:51:18 PM

I just wanted to update the top 10 players using the SI Player Rating system.

1. Lacey Kennedy, MC -- 55.57
2. Tarra Richardson, McM -- 54.52
3. Mandi Carter, UO -- 44.90
4. Sha Shead, UTT -- 41.62
5. Sarah Stanley, UTT -- 40.07
6. Meia Daniels, HPU -- 39.05
7. Nitra Woods, SRSU -- 37.58
8. Jeanne Randall, UO -- 36.30
9. Kassandra Bills, CUA -- 35.28
10. Kelli Brasher, LC -- 32.40

inthepaint · February 08, 2007, 10:36:35 PM

Thursday night scores and updates?!?!?!?!?

Anyone?!?!?!?

mcmfan · February 08, 2007, 10:48:44 PM

A lot are already posted on this site at
http://www.d3hoops.com/schedule.php?date=2007-02-08&team=womens
Doesn't look like anything that wasn't expected.

Ralph Turner · February 08, 2007, 11:31:32 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2007, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: ETigerBU on February 02, 2007, 05:19:37 PM
Just a question...

What exactly must ETBU do in order to start getting national attention?

We are 17-4 and the 4 is coming from 3 nationally ranked teams (with an extremely close game or two in there) and a Division II school. This might be a bold prediction but at some point the Lady Tigers are going to make someone stand up and start paying attention to them!
ETigerBU, you asked the question. Let me answer it from the perspective of an outside consultant. No malice intended, but the answers I will give you are variations of the same theme. (I want the quality of ASC basketball to be recognized nationally, and have for the 7 years I have been on this site.)

1) Look at the non-conference schedule. There is no game on this year's schedule that helps one bit with Top 25 or the NCAA Playoff calculations. NAIA's D2's or D1's are worthless. You have 4 NAIA's and a D2. Those count nothing! Your schedule should be no more than Wylie as "city-benefit game" sponsored by the Lions Club or the YMCA as a fundraiser and maybe a "money game" from a D1. Otherwise, your non-conference games should be South Region "in-region". Even Louisiana College's win over a D1 is now forgotten.

2) Schedule in-region D3 opponents that are nationally ranked. If you had played South Region opponents that have a solid winning record (e.g., > .700 percentage), then the nation would be saying something. HPU, HSU, McM all played teams with a national reputation in the non-conference. In fact, those teams have tried to get national recognition via their schedules for several years. Click on the non-conference schedules. As it is now, you are just another team that has lost to those 3. If you had victories over South Region opponents Hendrix and Oglethrope in the non-conference, then I believe you would be receiving votes.

3) Consider the western US for some games. With the new Administrative Region guideline change for in-region games, you can schedule any team from Missouri, Illinois and Wisconsin westward and have it count as in-region.

4) Schedule very tough "out-of-region" non-conference games against well-respected teams from the MIAA, the OAC or teams that are always in the Top 25. You may catch them in an off-year, but no one knows that yet in November, and that is when teams show up on the radar screens. This may not help with Playoff Calculations, but it does help the general reputation of the team.

This may mean spending the bucks to go on a big trip every year, but if the players have demonstrated that excellence, then they need the investment from the university.

ETigerBU,

Let me give you an example of what ETBU could do to get themselves into the regional rankings.

I suggested ETBU playing Oglethorpe and Hendrix instead of NAIA teams.

I count your (ETBU's) current QOWI is 165 points in 17 games or 9.71. If ETBU had defeated Oglethorpe and Hendrix on the road or at a neutral site, then those ETBU wins would be worth 15 points each. Let's add the 30 points to the QOWI, and we get 195 points in 19 South Region games and we get and QOWI of 10.26, higher than McMurry at 10.00.

As I look at this week's regional rankings, this would give ETBU an in-region record of 16-3. The Lady Tigers would have a record vs. ranked teams of 2-2 (better than McMurry). The victory over Oglethorpe would knock them down at least one notch and might put ETBU at least 3rd in the South Region and maybe 2nd. The win over Hendrix would might knnock Hendrix down a notch.

That high of a ranking would also put ETBU in great shape to earn a Pool C (at-large) playoff bid, if they did not win the tourney.

As I said, those NAIA games have probably hurt ETBU's chances more than they have helped the team's schedule. I understand playing Wiley and maybe getting a "money" game from a D1 or a D2.

I hope that the Lady Tigers will start scheduling D3 games that count towards the tourney. Play on the road at Hendrix. A road win is worth more than a home win!

Ralph Turner · February 09, 2007, 12:03:06 AM

I see that the NCAA is going to Pool bids for Women's Tennis.

The winner of the ASC-tourney this year will get the Tourney bid for women. Only ETBU does not sponsor women's tennis.

The men are not using the Pool system this year.

McM93 · February 09, 2007, 06:46:27 AM

Anybody else see Meia Daniels in Sports Illustrated this week? She is in the Faces in the Crowd section. Wasn't another HPU player in that section a few years back? I think it was a men's player.

inthepaint · February 09, 2007, 10:33:01 AM

Quote from: McM93 on February 09, 2007, 06:46:27 AM
Anybody else see Meia Daniels in Sports Illustrated this week? She is in the Faces in the Crowd section. Wasn't another HPU player in that section a few years back? I think it was a men's player.

I have not see that but a HUGE congratulations to Meia and to the HPU program. National attention is priceless. What a great affirmation of a very talented athlete and a first class program!

Ralph Turner · February 09, 2007, 10:40:12 AM

Quote from: inthepaint on February 09, 2007, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: McM93 on February 09, 2007, 06:46:27 AM
Anybody else see Meia Daniels in Sports Illustrated this week? She is in the Faces in the Crowd section. Wasn't another HPU player in that section a few years back? I think it was a men's player.

I have not see that but a HUGE congratulations to Meia and to the HPU program. National attention is priceless. What a great affirmation of a very talented athlete and a first class program!

Gotta be signs of the end-times...this big love-fest in the ASC-West!

Congratulations Meia!

dballa · February 09, 2007, 10:41:56 AM

if I'm not mistaken the HPU women's team will be on ESPN Classics and ESPN U on February 21st on their On Campus show spotlighting the two sets of sisters on the team as well as the Blalocks(brother/sister) on the men's and women's teams.

McM93 · February 09, 2007, 10:45:55 AM

What are the times of that program? Great media coverage of our conference!!!

dballa · February 09, 2007, 10:54:49 AM

That's what i'm not sure. I was told the 21st was the day but it could be changed. I looked at the ESPN listings and the only time I saw "NCAA On Campus" was the 22nd at 12:30pm. It may have been changed but if anybody else knows for sure please let us know. If i find out anymore information i'll be sure to post it on here.