WBB: American Southwest Conference

calhsu · February 23, 2007, 06:25:34 PM

ETBU is on a roll. McM fans will hate this, and I could be misreading them, (that is the heart of MCM) but I smell an upset. The trouble is if MCM loses that game they may lose their chance to go to the big dance. A loss in the finals would not.

Ralph Turner · February 23, 2007, 06:39:57 PM

Quote from: calhsu on February 23, 2007, 06:25:34 PM
ETBU is on a roll. McM fans will hate this, and I could be misreading them, (that is the heart of MCM) but I smell an upset. The trouble is if MCM loses that game they may lose their chance to go to the big dance. A loss in the finals would not.

calhsu, I respectfully disagree with that assertion that McMurry loses out on a Pool C bid, if they lose tomorrow.

Would you go thru the Primary Criteria in the Handbook with the data from the various teams season scores, the Regional won-loss percentages, Regional Rankings and the updated QOWI boards to show me your thinking?

mcmfan · February 23, 2007, 07:58:42 PM

McM should not take ETBU lightly. I don't understand all the NCAA criteria for an invitation to the post season, but you'd have a pretty dubious situation if McM was denied an invitation if it got beaten in the second round of the tournament, after HSU was given an invitation last year after getting beaten in the first round. The bottom line is to make sure that that situation doesn't happen by McM winning tomorrow!!

sethhpu · February 23, 2007, 09:30:39 PM

I doubt the NCAA looks from year to year to see who they let in after a first round loss in a conference tournament. At least I hope that is not how they determine who gets in. We have found out they can't do math so maybe I am wrong.

dballa · February 23, 2007, 11:21:47 PM

If ETBU wins against McM and HPU ends up winning it all we could see this final four here again next week in the NCAA playoffs.

As for tonight the Lady Jackets played a great game.

HSU had a great shooting performance but if they turn the ball over like that against HPU tomorrow it will be lights out for the 3rd straight time.

fanstand, I think I know where your TP is going. All I heard the whole game between MC and HSU was crying from the HSU fans. They complained when a call went against them and when they did get calls. If I hear "that was a foul" and "what are you looking at" one more time i'll throw up. Plus taunting the ASC's all-time leading scorer when she fouls out late in the game in a blowout isn't exactly showing good sportsmanship.

Ralph Turner · February 23, 2007, 11:31:49 PM

Quote from: dballa on February 23, 2007, 11:21:47 PM
If ETBU wins against McM and HPU ends up winning it all we could see this final four here again next week in the NCAA playoffs.

As for tonight the Lady Jackets played a great game.

HSU had a great shooting performance but if they turn the ball over like that against HPU tomorrow it will be lights out for the 3rd straight time.

fanstand, I think I know where your TP is going. All I heard the whole game between MC and HSU was crying from the HSU fans. They complained when a call went against them and when they did get calls. If I hear "that was a foul" and "what are you looking at" one more time i'll throw up. Plus taunting the ASC's all-time leading scorer when she fouls out late in the game in a blowout isn't exactly showing good sportsmanship.

dballa, you could be right!

fanstand · February 24, 2007, 01:41:19 AM

dballa, I was at that game, and you are sooooo right. Good grief, when you are up 30 points and playing your second and third stringers, give up the whinning, HSU was fouling and hacking just as much as MC. And why is everyone thinking ETBU is going to upset McM. We played great defense today, and if the officials hadn't called a couple of fouls to send UTD to the line, they may not have gotten into double figures by half. Our team is ready for tomorrow......better believe it. The atmosphere was great, all the people working the tournament were awesome, TP was readily available, but ...........I guess because it wasn't as loud as a regular conference game, I have to say one thing----That floor is Pathetic with a capital P. It is borderline dangerous. I don't think anyone, even HPU, has an advantage with as bad as that floor is. Come on, lay some nice hardwood down and put some kind of edging around it. The place is hard enough to shoot in, but dang that floor is awful.

Pat Coleman · February 24, 2007, 04:09:43 AM

Quote from: fanstand on February 24, 2007, 01:41:19 AM
We played great defense today,

You were on the floor?

fanstand · February 24, 2007, 05:39:45 AM

No sir, I was around the floor. When I say "we" I mean the LIB defense, I'm just a cheerleader. Pat, don't you ever sleep?

dballa · February 24, 2007, 08:32:56 AM

I don't know if ETBU will beat McMurry today or not but I think it will be a great game. Both teams can score but the key will be who can cut down on turnovers and fouls.

The winning teams today will definitely be testing their conditioning tomorrow.

As far as the floor goes I agree HPU needs a new one. But the city won't pay for it and HPU doesn't have the money for it. They talked about putting slopes around the edges of the floor a few years back and definitely should be put in place. It's dangerous for players and the officials. But for now it's what the teams have to play on and hopefully with how well the Lady Jackets are playing a new floor could be in the works for the future.

mcmfan · February 24, 2007, 10:28:08 AM

dballa,
That could be the ultimate irony: HPU is so successful that someone or some group comes up with enough money to build a whole new gym on the HPU campus, and then all the things we HPU opponents complain give you such a big home court advantage will be gone and the program as a result will tank!

Ralph Turner · February 24, 2007, 10:37:42 AM

What a great day for women's basketball!

I will make the claim that if ETBU had played and beaten both Hendrix and Oglethorpe in the non-conference, then we would have a Top 25 final.

Good luck to all, and GO LIB!

McM Blue Devil · February 24, 2007, 11:55:57 AM

Quote from: calhsu on February 23, 2007, 06:25:34 PM
ETBU is on a roll. McM fans will hate this, and I could be misreading them, (that is the heart of MCM) but I smell an upset. The trouble is if MCM loses that game they may lose their chance to go to the big dance. A loss in the finals would not.

I also want to argue Calhsu's claim that if the McM women lose today their NCAA hopes are in jeopardy. I don't doubt that LIB will have a tough game today, however a loss I don't think would be enough to knock that far down in the rankings. Like Ralph I would ask you to give some facts about that comment.

What will realyy throw everything into chaos would be an ETBU win today and tomorrow. Wow, then does the ASC get four berths?

Go LIB and I will see everyone on Brownwood.

mcmfan · February 24, 2007, 08:45:16 PM

Quote from: mcmfan on February 19, 2007, 02:00:07 PM
HPU CUA +31 HSU CUA +40 McM CUA +22
HPU UMHB +7 HSU UMHB +28 McM UMHB +8
HPU SU +61 HSU SU +31 McM SU +26
HPU TLU +47 HSU TLU +53 McM TLU +27

calhsu:
By the numbers, I'd say HSU is going to win.

Looks like the numbers lied! Of course, it's a lot easier to predict what the seedings will be for the post-season, knowing the NCAA as we all do. If HPU wins on Sunday, then it will host a post-season tournament and be seeded so that it has to beat both McM and HSU again to get any further in the playoffs. If McM wins, the same thing happens, with a seeding requiring wins over HPU and HSU. Any takers on this prediction?

McM93 · February 24, 2007, 09:03:38 PM

Man, ETBU had two chances at the end to win. How close was that. Anyway good game and it ought to be a great championship