WBB: American Southwest Conference

dballa · February 25, 2007, 10:45:59 PM

looks like the last QOWI pat Coleman did had HSU dropping down really far even below ETBU

62 9.727 5 East Texas Baptist 0.818 (18-4) 22-5
63 9.720 6 Hardin-Simmons 0.800 (20-5) 21-5

Pat Coleman posted the whole list on the Multi Region board under Bumblin B's.

thundercat · February 25, 2007, 10:48:26 PM

thanks Ralph, hard to believe but the numbers don't lie. I still feel like they should be in. It will be nice to see HPU and MCM against some other competition.

dballa · February 25, 2007, 10:49:38 PM

well Ralph didn't give you those numbers but you're welcome anyways

thundercat · February 25, 2007, 10:51:22 PM

sorry dballa, just so used to Ralph's contributions. Thanks! How do you feel about HSU?

thejungle · February 25, 2007, 10:54:12 PM

Yeah, I figured it was Ralph too.

No HSU selection? You've got to be kidding me...What ONE loss all season to someone who WASN'T in the top 10? AND after going to final four last season. I'm astonished...

dballa · February 25, 2007, 10:56:27 PM

Judging by what the NCAA uses I didn't think they could have made it without making it to the finals of the conference tournament. But after watching them play in 3 games this year I thought they were a very good team and should have made it.

But as an HPU fan above anything else I'm happy with only 2 in the tournament which means we actually get to play teams other than those in our conference.

thundercat · February 25, 2007, 10:57:59 PM

HSU is a very good team and should have been in. I truly feel bad for those seniors, tough way to go out!

mcmfan · February 25, 2007, 10:59:55 PM

This makes no sense to me, except that the NCAA is being the NCAA. Last year, HSU got knocked out of the tournament in the first round by an unranked team... and they got a bid. This year, they get knocked out in the second round by the eventual champion with a national ranking to boot, and they are bumped? And I believe they have a better record than they did last year. Then, I think HSU got an undeserved favor (which they fully capitalized on), but I really think you guys at HSU got screwed this time around.
Of course, the screwing may not be over, yet, until we find out the pairings.

thundercat · February 25, 2007, 11:02:30 PM

my setiments exactly mcmfan. And they did have a worse record last year. You just never know with the NCAA, surely there were teams less deserving than HSU.

Ralph Turner · February 25, 2007, 11:03:28 PM

Quote from: dballa on February 25, 2007, 10:45:59 PM
looks like the last QOWI pat Coleman did had HSU dropping down really far even below ETBU

62 9.727 5 East Texas Baptist 0.818 (18-4) 22-5
63 9.720 6 Hardin-Simmons 0.800 (20-5) 21-5

Pat Coleman posted the whole list on the Multi Region board under Bumblin B's.

A win over Southwestern gives them a QOWI of 10.040.

KSC and GAC were the lowest QOWI's that I saw and both lower than 10.040.

ETBU needed another non-ASC game to boost their QOWI, and then they had too many ASC games against low QOWI schools that brought down their QOWI.

I think that the coaches can make the case for 20 or 21 games being too many mandated ASC games. ETBU has made no effort to schedule other D3's, but I think that the conference needs to re-address this issue.

We need to get 20-22 D3 games for these schools, so I think that the weaker schools need to look at games against winnable schools in the SLIAC, the GSAC, the USAC, the IIAC, the NWC and the SCIAC to boost their records.

Ralph Turner · February 25, 2007, 11:05:29 PM

Pat Coleman suggested that HSU was the last team or two to be bumped.

I am confident that a Southwestern win puts them into the tourney!

sethhpu · February 25, 2007, 11:09:09 PM

Interesting to see what the NCAA does with the matchups.

FrmrHSUer · February 25, 2007, 11:11:43 PM

Quote from: sethhpu on February 25, 2007, 11:09:09 PM
Interesting to see what the NCAA does with the matchups.

Yes hopefully our ASC Teams won't meet so early, but it is the NC2A, So they'll probably meet first round

sethhpu · February 25, 2007, 11:14:05 PM

Too bad the NCAA forgets the D-3 is also competetive, instead of just trying to save money.

Ralph Turner · February 25, 2007, 11:17:05 PM

There is one bracket that has "away/home/bye" format.

Someone could fly into Abilene for a Wednesday home game and then the winner would go to Brownwood for the Saturday game.

I am trying to find the travel orphan who might be flown.

Pat Coleman makes a good case for the West Coast bracket--Chapman/LaVerne/Puget Sound/George Fox bracket.

Might Simpson IA be flown in?

Oglethorpe and Piedmont could be flown in. They played in the regular season and it would be nice to postpone a potential repeat to Saturday night.