WBB: American Southwest Conference

[bball fan 37]

From the experience that I have being around the conference (this is my fifth year), the in-region games are only helping the elite teams. I was at a meeting when Kielsmeier tried to explain all that, and I just wanted to laugh cause it seemed that he only said that cause he needed the at-large. Honestly the teams that are in the middle to the lower part of the conference do not care when they are making their schedules about how high the confernce is rated and if McM or Hardin-simmons recieve an at-large bid to the tournament.  With the many of the schools on a limited budget and some schools needing wins to get their season's going, making the asc look good is on their priority list.

[Ralph Turner]

bball fan 37, welcome to the boards and thank you for responding.  Any comments, hyperlinks to newspaper articles, insights to game outcomes, etc.,  that you can contribute are greatly appreciated!   


I understand the sentiment and, IMHO, its short-sightedness in attitude.

You can look on the Football boards where I encouraged scheduling in-region games.  In 2007, McMurry went 2-8 overall/1-7 conference.  McMurry found Huntingdon and Austin College for non-conference games.

The attitude to schedule D-III games that help the conference must permeate the entire athletic program.  I would hope that (the other) Coach K (the HPU women's coach and not the Duke Men's coach  ) could influence HPU's football scheduling, to get at least one "in-region" game per year, even if it means a trip.

I want Coaches and AD's to work together.  A great opportunity is for 2 teams, (maybe travel partners), to get in-region opponents to play over the Holidays...e.g., TLU/Schreiner hosting a snow bird team as its comes thru town over Christmas, or jointly hosting a Classic style tourney like Trinity and Southwestern do to bring 2 teams to Texas.

[Ralph Turner]

Let's look at how successful the women's coaches were at scheduling valuable non-conference (in-region) games.

I commented on the men's side earlier this season.

ASC-East

UT-Dallas -- Great Schedule!  Five in-region D-3 games!  At Trinity TX (their only loss), Benedictine IL, Austin College twice and UDallas. 

UT-Tyler -- Two D-3 in-region games, Austin College and Southwestern.  Also played NAIA-1 LSU-Shreveport and Jarvis Christian, and D2 Texas A&M Commerce over the Christmas break.

UT-Tyler and UT-Dallas are co-operating for 2008-09 and have a good opponent UW-Platteville from the WIAC.  This opponent is "in-region".

This is a good example of what can be accomplished!   

[dballa]

I was just taking a peak at the McMurry website and according to it Richardson is only 55 points away from breaking the ASC points record. 

I decided to do a little math on it and I may be wrong but didn't Lacey Kennedy from MC break the old record by Otwell at HSU and score a total of 1,890 for her career?  That total may not be right on the money but Chris Brooks at MC can correct me on the actual count.

If that is the case then Richardson isn't 55 away from Kennedy's record she's just 55 away from breaking Otwell's old record which hasn't been updated on the ASC website for whatever reason.

[golden_dome]

I was just taking a peak at the McMurry website and according to it Richardson is only 55 points away from breaking the ASC points record. 

I decided to do a little math on it and I may be wrong but didn't Lacey Kennedy from MC break the old record by Otwell at HSU and score a total of 1,890 for her career?  That total may not be right on the money but Chris Brooks at MC can correct me on the actual count.

If that is the case then Richardson isn't 55 away from Kennedy's record she's just 55 away from breaking Otwell's old record which hasn't been updated on the ASC website for whatever reason.

Dballa,
    Thanks for putting that up, Lacey does hold the record at 1890 but it hasn't been updated on the ASC site yet. I will let the MCM SID know.

[dballa]

I'm listening to the HPU/LeTU game here at work and listening to the LeTU radio announcer makes me feel like I'm at an auction.  I feel like I need a numbered paddle.  Great voice for the radio though.

[mcm_sid]

I was just taking a peak at the McMurry website and according to it Richardson is only 55 points away from breaking the ASC points record. 

I decided to do a little math on it and I may be wrong but didn't Lacey Kennedy from MC break the old record by Otwell at HSU and score a total of 1,890 for her career?  That total may not be right on the money but Chris Brooks at MC can correct me on the actual count.

If that is the case then Richardson isn't 55 away from Kennedy's record she's just 55 away from breaking Otwell's old record which hasn't been updated on the ASC website for whatever reason.

Dballa,
    Thanks for putting that up, Lacey does hold the record at 1890 but it hasn't been updated on the ASC site yet. I will let the MCM SID know.

dballa, thanks for looking into this. Obviously, when I wrote the release, I was going off the PDF on the ASC web site. Chris and I are going to work together to see where else there might be differences.

Wish I had known before I compiled all the numbers!!! 

[dballa]

It's still better to catch it now than it would have been for her to score those 55 pts and to celebrate only to find out she needed about 100 more or so.  She'll still be able to easily pass the record but it will just take a little more time.  Meia Daniels has 1612 career pts and could reach the 2,000 mark if she stays healthy and the team continues to play well.

I noticed a few other numbers on the ASC website aren't correct in relation to the current season.  But I don't think they've updated all the numbers yet.

As an accountant I guess I dig into numbers too much sometimes

[mcm_sid]

It's still better to catch it now than it would have been for her to score those 55 pts and to celebrate only to find out she needed about 100 more or so.  She'll still be able to easily pass the record but it will just take a little more time.  Meia Daniels has 1612 career pts and could reach the 2,000 mark if she stays healthy and the team continues to play well.

I noticed a few other numbers on the ASC website aren't correct in relation to the current season.  But I don't think they've updated all the numbers yet.

As an accountant I guess I dig into numbers too much sometimes

No, man, I'm glad you brought it to our attention. I've also emailed the HPU SID so we can collaborate throughout the season and keep each other updated. My guess is, it will depend on how far each team advances through the ASC Tourney and possibly the NCAAs.

Thanks!

[mcmfan]

McM 41, LC 38, final.
An ugly game.  After rolling HSU a week ago, McM appeared to have nothing left.  At the end, with only a 3 point lead, we needed just one free throw to put it away, got repeatedly fouled and missed one shot after another.  Tarra Richardson went out in the second half with a sprained ankle, but the team was struggling even before that.  We've got two days to regroup before MC... Go LIB!

[mcm_sid]

It's still better to catch it now than it would have been for her to score those 55 pts and to celebrate only to find out she needed about 100 more or so.  She'll still be able to easily pass the record but it will just take a little more time.  Meia Daniels has 1612 career pts and could reach the 2,000 mark if she stays healthy and the team continues to play well.

I noticed a few other numbers on the ASC website aren't correct in relation to the current season.  But I don't think they've updated all the numbers yet.

As an accountant I guess I dig into numbers too much sometimes

Tarra is at 1,734 points through the game vs. HSU - Not sure how many she scored tonight, i wasn't there - I know she had six at half before she was injured.

Meia Daniels has 1,612 points before tonight's game against LeTourneau.

So assuming both players stay healthy - HPU will need to play 4-6 more games than McMurry - if they keep their current pace.

[dballa]

If they both stay healthy HPU would have to go deep into the playoffs, which could happen for Daniels to pass Richardson.  I do know both should get 2,000 which would be great for both of them, the teams and the conference.


Meia scored 18 tonight, at least that's what the announcer said, i haven't seen the official box score.

[Ralph Turner]

So assuming both players stay healthy - HPU will need to play 4-6 more games than McMurry - if they keep their current pace.

I will be honest.  I want McMurry to go 4-6 games farther than HPU into the playoffs! 

[fanstand]

Amen Ralph!  I listened to the game last night, and yea it was ugly, but a win is a win and that's all that matters.  I was impressed by the fact that I never got the sense that we panicked at any time.  We didn't go and start jacking up shots and fouling when we were down.  It sounded like they kept playing steady defense, bringing the ball down and looking for a shot. I believe the lay off hurt, (Mcm doesn't practice during finals week). I think we will shake the rust off, and play well against MC.  I really like blow outs so I can relax during the game, but close games show us what teams are made of.  I like what this team is made of.  I hope Tarra's ankle is not serious but we will be getting another break, so she should be okay come January.  Get after it LIB!!!!!

[inthepaint]

So assuming both players stay healthy - HPU will need to play 4-6 more games than McMurry - if they keep their current pace.

I will be honest.  I want McMurry to go 4-6 games farther than HPU into the playoffs! 

The way things look I'm hoping HSU just makes it to the conference tournament!