WBB: American Southwest Conference

[dballa]

mcmfan,

I understand you guys are probably upset about a SLOGAN being talked about but it's a little different than a derogatory chant towards an individual player. 

I hear the HP WHO chants and the "Horrid Payne" or whatever else you can call HPU and it doesn't bother me.  I wouldn't like it if our fans were doing the same thing towards another teams player.

On that note like mcm_sid said, congrats to Richardson on a great career.  She was amazing to watch except when she was scoring and blocking shots against HPU.  Also congrats to Sawyer.  She was the scariest player out on the floor for McMurry because she could hit shots from anywhere on the court.

[Ralph Turner]

I wouldn't know, HPU hasn't been beaten by 15 in a long time.

Your next opponent is George Fox who beat Puget Sound 72-66.

I remember it.  Abilene TX; January 12, 2006; McMurry 64 HPU 46

Actually it was 64-48 and in Brownwood.  They lost the next to HSU and haven't lost at home since then.  HPU's next opponent is actually DeSales.

Boink! Rim shot! 
Thanks for the correction!

ARN news story on the game

[Pat Coleman]

Howard Payne hosting sectionals.

[Ralph Turner]

Howard Payne hosting sectionals.

Yes!!!

Heh heh heh!!! How about those special effects, Jacket fans!

Now I am going to practice rooting for the Yellow Jackets!

GO HORRID PAIN!  Oops!

GO HORRID PAIN!  Oops!

GO HORRID PAIN!

GO HORRID PAIN!

Shucks!  I didn't get it right on the fourth try either!   

[Ralph Turner]

I hear the HP WHO chants and the "Horrid Payne" or whatever else you can call HPU and it doesn't bother me.  I wouldn't like it if our fans were doing the same thing towards another teams player.

Go Jackets!  Win it all!

I think that the crowd will least affect Hope College.  Those ladies will just go into "Calvin mode".

[mcm505]

In regards to the inappropriate chants by the McM Students, I know this is only my second post on this site, and my credibility may not be good, but every school has fans like that.

I remember playing at HPU and being completely harassed about my mother, sister, and other derogatory terms about my supposed sexuality.  I experienced similar experiences at HSU (if not worse), at Austin College, and pretty much every other school in the ASC (including McMurry). 

After spending time at my current grad school and attending all of our sporting events, I have come to realize that every school has its immature idiots.  Whether it is McM, HPU, CU, HSU, or TLU there are pockets of fans that do not realize how to heckle appropriately (which can still be harsh, but not derogatory). 

With that in mind, congrats to HPU and good luck the rest of the way out.  It has and always should be cheer for your school first, and then the conference if your school can't win it all.  I even had to cheer for TLU in the 2004 Regional Tourney, so it can be done.

Best of luck HPU.

[mcmfan]

dballa,

I simply found it less than edifying that a fan of the winning team would come up with so many derogatory things to say about the losers in a post.  I know some of the people who work at HPU; we shook hands after the game and I congratulated him on the win.  He didn't tell me what poor slogans we had or deride us for not joining in a HPU wave.  I told him I hoped HPU would get the sectional and go all the way to the final four.  I think it's cool that HPU did get the sectional, as I read here.

Incidentally, some of your "classless" McM fans stayed after the game to pick up the trash dropped on the floor under our bleachers.  Whatever the shouts during the game, we left a clean area for the clean up crew after it was over.

[Rick Akins]

First, MCM505, great post!!  It is embarassing to me the way some people act and the way they talk--especially boys to girls. I did not hear what has been referred to on here about last night, but I don't like it either. I do know no school is totally immune from stupidity, however.

Now to one of my pet peeves about fans. I heard this "chant" last night from both sides directed at 2 of  the (if  not the absolute 2  best  period) players in the history of the ASC.  "Air ball, air ball" was directed at both Meia Daniels and Tarra Richardson over and over. How silly, foolish and ultimately counterproductive!! I hear it all the time from high school on up and it is just goofy IMHO. All both of them did was make the people chanting sound ignorant by making basket after basket and free throw after free throw.  As I have said before, yell FOR your team and AT the refs. I don't mind everyone screaming indiscriminately during the other team's free throws, I guess, but any personal stuff is not right.  My observation last night from at least my perspective is that it generally was not outrageous for which I was grateful.

I am not sure I would participate in the "wave" at McMurry either. Frankly, when it was 62-56, I was way too nervous to get too much involved either.  It was fun to see though. On that note, I do not buy the 2613 attendance figure.  I was not at the Chapman game last year (nephew's wedding--and I will not let him forget it!!)  but if there were truly 4000 at that game  there is no way there were only 2613 last night--maybe 3613. There were some seats but every section was 80-90% full or more and 250-300 (?) or more on the floor. If the top of the coliseum seats 4000 there is no way it was 2613.  Someone explain this to me.  The ticket sellers told me HPU sold all its tickets except for 800 sent to McMurry,then McMurry sent back all but 200-300 of those and she said 200+ of those returned were sold. That sounds like closer to the 3500-4000 I thought.

When I realized it would be 3 flights regardless, I was hoping HPU would get the sectional with our record, regional ranking (only #1 in our pod), Hope already having the final four,etc., but I am still thrilled!  Thanks to the Hope men for making that decision easier for the NCAA.  All right, HPU and Brownwood, let's do this sectional right!!!

On another positive note, after the game last night, I saw who I believe is Tarra Richardson's dad come up to Meia Daniels  and tell her how much he had enjoyed watching her play these last four years.  Especially at that time, after watching Tarra play for the last time, after another tough loss, I was VERY impressed--very very nice.

Along with everyone else I hope--I also have to say GO JACKETS!!! Let's win it all!!

[Ralph Turner]

Good post, Rick!

I am excited about this game.  DeSales from the MAC-Freedom Conference  comes from a proud area for D-III women's hoops.  A strong showing will help the reputation of the ASC.

Concordia TX got to play Messiah (MAC-Commonwealth Conference) in Cancun this year.  Messiah is another strong program that is still in the tourney.

Daniels and Richardson are as good a pair of players as we are likely to see in the conference.  It certainly has been fun!

[crufootball]

What does LIB mean for the McMurry girls? I saw it a while back and have been wondering what it means?

[Rick Akins]

Thanks, Ralph.  One more comment about the attendance last night. In looking at the HPU website for statistics, it shows 2670 at the McMurry game a month ago and 2310 at the HSU game that same week.  There were TONS more people last night than at either of those games.  I was at all 3!!  Someone fromn HPU either needs to look again from last night, or those game numbers were WAY overinflated.  And frankly, if there were only 2613 last night, we need to count the seats again in the coliseum--I don't see how it holds 4000-4500 or whatever we claim.

By the way, no one from McMurry can say this upon penalty of death from the NCAA--or some worse penalty--but since I am from HPU, I can say it. We all know LIB is LADY INDIAN BASKETBALL.

[mcmfan]

But now it is "Ladies in Basketball"!

[veragrace]

I hear the HP WHO chants and the "Horrid Payne" or whatever else you can call HPU and it doesn't bother me.  I wouldn't like it if our fans were doing the same thing towards another teams player.

Go Jackets!  Win it all!

I think that the crowd will least affect Hope College.  Those ladies will just go into "Calvin mode".

works for me...

Jan 9    Hope 56 Calvin 39
Feb 9   Hope 66 Calvin 58

put us in "Calvin mode" anytime.

[Ralph Turner]

I hear the HP WHO chants and the "Horrid Payne" or whatever else you can call HPU and it doesn't bother me.  I wouldn't like it if our fans were doing the same thing towards another teams player.

Go Jackets!  Win it all!
I think that the crowd will least affect Hope College.  Those ladies will just go into "Calvin mode".

works for me...
Jan 9    Hope 56 Calvin 39
Feb 9   Hope 66 Calvin 58
put us in "Calvin mode" anytime.

Welcome Veragrace!

Travel safely!

[veragrace]

Unfortunately traveling is not in the budget this year...we'll be staying home to cheer for our men's team....we can walk to the fieldhouse...much cheaper