MBB: United East Conference

Started by Pat Coleman, January 21, 2005, 12:45:56 PM

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bballfan44

Hello everyone,  I hope your enjoying your summer.   Just wondering if you heard any news around the NEAC and the teams for next year.

I heard that SUNY IT got Matt Potter from OCC which is good for them because he is 6'6' and could score and rebound for OCC.  SO he could play center for them if they wanted to go more fast pace.

Form What I saw on the syracuse forums for high school basketball, Cazenovia got Matt Perry 6'4' from Massena who averaged 16 points a game.   Then i found an article on-line that Caz also got a kid named Bobby Rohrig from Vermont who i guess is 6'5" http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20090218/SPORTS/902180373/-1/RSS10

I wonder what everyone else has got.  Hopefully some good talent so this league can grow and be respected

bballfan44

This is what i am guessing

09-10

1- SUNY IT
2- Wells
3- Cazenovia
4- Keuka
5- SUNY Cobleskill
6- PSU-Berks
7- PSU Harrisburg
8- Dallas
9- Morrisville State
10- PSU Abington

Ralph Turner


Ralph Turner

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Current status of the NEAC...

Thanks to affiliate UDallas, the NEAC will keep its Pool A for another season, as the provisional members work their way thru the provisional pipeline.

2009-10

1- SUNY IT  
2- Wells
3- Cazenovia
4- Keuka
5- SUNY Cobleskill  (Provisional Member Year #3  #2)
6- PSU-Berks
7- PSU Harrisburg  (Provisional Member Year #2 #4)
8- Dallas
9- Morrisville State
10- PSU Abington    (Provisional Member Year #1)

Formal press release announcing SUNY-Cobleskill's and PSU-Harrsiburg's promotion should be out in the next 7-10 days.  EDIT:  Formal press release came this morning.

The big news is that PSU-Harriburg jumped "two grades" to move to Year #4!

They could be eligible for full membership in 2010-11 and it might cause the NEAC to reconsider (? dissolve ?)  the affiliation that they have with UDallas.

wetsu215

Hearing about another JUCO transfer to SUNY IT.  U-ND's Steve Campbell from Herkimer.  He is another big body for them at 6'7"

bballfan44

I am sorry but i have given some bad information,  Potter is not going to SUNY IT  he is going to another tech school.  I saw that on the OCC website but it seems Brand Haughton is going to Cazenovia to play basketball

http://www.sunyocc.edu/athletics.aspx?id=4169

FutureD3playa

I think wells and sunyit will have a battle for 1st place all year as long as wells can keep all there players eligble all year.

bballfan44

I think it will be SUNY IT but i am not sure about wells,  have there team will not be able to play first semester and who knows who will be back

FROMAFAR

Good morning BBALLER, do you have any idea which TECH school Potter is going to.....RIT, Stevens Tech?????  Thanks ;)
BUT WHAT DO I KNOW?

bballfan44

Potter is going to Wentworth Institute of Technology, i believe it is MA. 

FROMAFAR

BUT WHAT DO I KNOW?

wetsu215

Any insight on the NEAC schools now that practice has started.  Will Wells have eligibility issues and even then it seems like their coach is a good recruiter.  SUNY IT on top...what about Morrisville and Cobleskill, two former JUCO powers in the state that seem to have fallen off since going D3.  I see Caz lost a lot to graduation but it is probably the right time for them to be rebuilding anyway after last year.

The Penn State schools are dedicated to athletics and they don't seem to be losing guys after their soph seasons anymore...any word on a surprise from south of NY.

bballfan44

opening weekend perdications:

Nov 15th:
Cobleskill vs Western Conn. St-  Cobleskill looks re-loaded but not sure how they will play togather.  Conn lost alot and have a young squad so this game could go both ways but i will say Conn by 8.

Cazenovia vs Clarkson.  Cazenovia looks to have a young and maybe the biggest team it has ever had, but they will be playing against a good clarkson team.  So i say Caz loses by 18.

Wells vs Hartwick- Wells returns its center pieces and if they play they will beat a bad hartwick team by 15.

Abington vs Millersville-  Abington will probably lose by 30.  I beleive Millersville is a D2 school

Berks vs Alvernia-  Berks will lose by 23.  Alvernia has been good in the past and NEAC teams dont do well outside of conference.


FreddyState

Man I can not believe this league has an automatic bid.  No offense but ur league is made up of a bunch of teams that tried to make it in other leagues but didn't.  Give me some feedback I need some controversy, something to battle about..

(oh and you can't count UDallas)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: FreddyState on November 14, 2009, 02:00:47 AM
Man I can not believe this league has an automatic bid.  No offense but ur league is made up of a bunch of teams that tried to make it in other leagues but didn't.  Give me some feedback I need some controversy, something to battle about..

(oh and you can't count UDallas)
Good morning FreddyState.

The NEAC is one of the really interesting stories in D-III.  The "modern" NEAC came together in 2004-05 from the old 5-team NEAC.  You may remember the old NEAC was Cazenovia, Medaille, Hilburt, Keuka and D'Youville.  When Hibert and Medaille left for the AMCC, the conference re-thought its focus and expanded to pick up all the independents in the northeast, from DC north and eastward.

The interesting thing about this move is that it brought value to some teams that had not been sought as conference members, such as Villa Julie (now Stevenson) Polytechnic, and Philly Bible.  It also became the entry point for new NCAA members such as Keystone and PSU-Berks.  Many of the 2004-05 members have now been invited to join other conferences as a result of the "Landmark Conference shuffle", when the Landmark Conference plucked 8 teams from other conferences to make its own conference.  It was NEAC members that filled some of the voids left after the shufling.

Once the NEAC had an AQ, they began to work with their membership to provide access to the playoffs for their student athletes.  The SUNYAC does not offer Tennis, so the NEAC has accepted SUNY-Oneonta as a men's tennis affilaite.  The NJAC does not sponsor men's golf, so Rutgers Camden has affiliated in that sport with the NEAC.  Medaille has returned to the NEAC as an affiliate in Men's and Women's Lacrosse.  Also, the NEAC has a creative agreement with the North Atlantic Conference (NAC) to provide AQ access in multiple sports via affiliation including baseball.

The UDallas move was brilliant to keep the AQ.  UDallas has been an independent since 2001 and wants to get into the SCAC.  They will travel anywhere.  What the NEAC needed was a "placeholder" as its provisional members came into full membership.  When the NEAC has enough full members to maintain the AQ, I sure that the affiliation agreement between the NEAC and UDallas will be revisited.  I  know that UDallas has benefited from the deal.  I think that the NEAC has, too.

The good thing about the conference format and the AQ is that the conference makes competition among peer institutions possible, with the reward being organized conference play and schedules, and access to an NCAA playoff game.  Sure you may be the #16 seed in a bracket, but as a Pool A, you get your chance.

SUNYIT looked at its resources and what it could offer as an intercollegiate athletic experience and moved from the SUNYAC to the NEAC.  Gallaudet, which joins the NEAC in 2010-11, has determined that their student-athletes may be more competitive in the NEAC than they were in the Capital AC, especially if the Capital AC adds football.  Galluadet had its best football season since 1930, by not competing against teams that are in the Capital.