MBB: Little East

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Week 2's Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-second

[ECSUalum]

Re ECSU the coaches likely had no idea Carlos Gonzalez was taking a red shirt year!  His loss was huge this year with the team never the same as in the 2018-19 season!  It is the same in the D3hoops pre-season polls which look almost identical to the previous years final poll.  Coaches do not have a crystal ball on recruits, (except perhaps with NESCAC schools which do more publicization of their nationally recruited incoming freshman players), nor can they predict injuries to impact players.  Therefore, take pre-season polls with a grain of salt!

Your assertion about the D3hoops.com Preseason poll is not accurate. We get a LOT of information from schools and programs about who is back, who isn't back, who they brought in via recruits, etc. If a school doesn't give us information that is accurate, we can't help that. However, there are many times we get information that changes in the two weeks leading up to the season.

I'm not saying the preseason ballot is going to be perfect by any stretch, but saying it is nearly identical to the final poll the season before isn't accurate. Look at this season's (https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/preseason) and tell me how many teams you see with "--" next to their names indicating they weren't even ranked in the final poll last season. Eight teams in total including WashU which was 7th in the preseason. Voters do their homework. Again, doesn't make it perfect, but it certainly isn't just slapped together to look like the final poll from the previous March.

Now, coaches' polls depends on the conference. There does tend to be some "politics" involved, but I also know some conferences that vote so early that rosters aren't even finalized and released online. They do tend to be a little more off.

Thank you for insight Dave! I didn't think it was as simple as stated by some other posts, maybe sour grapes🤣? Anyway, a Western win combined with a Dartmouth loss gives Western the Number 1 seed for the LEC Tourney and home court advantage where they are 8-0 in conference play this year and
11-1 overall! Should be fun to see how it all plays out!!

wscu91, It is obvious you are a novice in LEC basketball.  Your "sour grapes" comment shows your immaturity!  I will match Eastern's BB record vs Western's over the last 10 years any day!  If WCSU wins the LEC, which is not a certainty, we will see how far they go in the NCAA tournament!
And re Dave McHugh comments about the D3hoops poll, if you have so much info on the team recruits etc etc, especially re the LEC, you should publish this knowledge on the D3Hoops web site!!  It might be interesting for everybody to see!

[wcsu91]

Western big win at RIC And clinches The regular season title and the # 1 seed throughout the LEC Tourney!!! Congrats WESTCONN!! Oh by the way, I believe Eastern was eliminated from the LEC tourney tonight.

[ECSUalum]

Western big win at RIC And clinches The regular season title and the # 1 seed throughout the LEC Tourney!!! Congrats WESTCONN!! Oh by the way, I believe Eastern was eliminated from the LEC tourney tonight.

Yeah they were!  Its about time WCSU won an LEC reg season, as they have been a mediocre team for a long time!

[wcsu91]

Western big win at RIC And clinches The regular season title and the # 1 seed throughout the LEC Tourney!!! Congrats WESTCONN!! Oh by the way, I believe Eastern was eliminated from the LEC tourney tonight.

Yeah they were!  Its about time WCSU won an LEC reg season, as they have been a mediocre team for a long time!

Did Eastern even have a men's basketball team prior to 8 years ago??? 

[ECSUalum]

Western big win at RIC And clinches The regular season title and the # 1 seed throughout the LEC Tourney!!! Congrats WESTCONN!! Oh by the way, I believe Eastern was eliminated from the LEC tourney tonight.

Yeah they were!  Its about time WCSU won an LEC reg season, as they have been a mediocre team for a long time!

Did Eastern even have a men's basketball team prior to 8 years ago???

You seem to be someone who gets very confused with the facts,(stats)!  Try to focus now, I have detailed the stats below

ECSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (26-4, 13-1 LEC)
2016-17 (21-9, 11-3 LEC)
2015-16 (18-9, 11-3 LEC)
2014-15 (20-4, 12-1 LEC)
2013-14 (23-7, 14-0 LEC)
2012-13 (22-8, 12-2 LEC)
2011-12 (24-6, 11-3 LEC)
2010-11 (22-10, 10-4 LEC)
2009-10 (20-10, 9-5 LEC)
BTW do some research and find out how many LEC championships and NCAA tournaments Eastern has won/participated in the last 10 years
Western got lucky this year!  We will see how far they go

WCSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (14-13, 8-6 LEC)
2016-17 (12-13, 4-10 LEC)
2015-16 (15-11, 8-6 LEC)
2014-15 (14-12, 6-8 LEC)
2013-14 (17-9, 8-6 LEC)
2012-13 (5-21, 3-11 LEC)
2011-12 (21-7, 10-4 LEC)
2010-11 (22-6, 11-3 LEC)
2009-10 (19-7, 9-5 LEC)
as I said mediocre for at least 7 yrs! assuming you can read this!

[wcsu91]

Western big win at RIC And clinches The regular season title and the # 1 seed throughout the LEC Tourney!!! Congrats WESTCONN!! Oh by the way, I believe Eastern was eliminated from the LEC tourney tonight.

Yeah they were!  Its about time WCSU won an LEC reg season, as they have been a mediocre team for a long time!

Did Eastern even have a men's basketball team prior to 8 years ago???

You seem to be someone who gets very confused with the facts,(stats)!  Try to focus now, I have detailed the stats below

ECSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (26-4, 13-1 LEC)
2016-17 (21-9, 11-3 LEC)
2015-16 (18-9, 11-3 LEC)
2014-15 (20-4, 12-1 LEC)
2013-14 (23-7, 14-0 LEC)
2012-13 (22-8, 12-2 LEC)
2011-12 (24-6, 11-3 LEC)
2010-11 (22-10, 10-4 LEC)
2009-10 (20-10, 9-5 LEC)
BTW do some research and find out how many LEC championships and NCAA tournaments Eastern has won/participated in the last 10 years
Western got lucky this year!  We will see how far they go

WCSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (14-13, 8-6 LEC)
2016-17 (12-13, 4-10 LEC)
2015-16 (15-11, 8-6 LEC)
2014-15 (14-12, 6-8 LEC)
2013-14 (17-9, 8-6 LEC)
2012-13 (5-21, 3-11 LEC)
2011-12 (21-7, 10-4 LEC)
2010-11 (22-6, 11-3 LEC)
2009-10 (19-7, 9-5 LEC)
as I said mediocre for at least 7 yrs! assuming you can read this!

Ha! I see how it works with you. So you can insult me on this board about being able to read and  question my maturity over my sour grape comment. I  Can read it just fine homer,  but maybe you should learn how to count and not be so uptight. I see nine seasons here, not 10 as you mention. So did they have a basketball program prior to 9 years ago??? Were they relevant??? Since you seem to like to Throw out numbers/stats from the past, I know Western did okay under Bob Campbell who only won 589 games in 30 years and went to the NCAA tournament 12 times, 5 LEC championships and had 12 seasons with 20 plus wins. But this is all old news just like your Eastern squad over the last 9 years. It's the past. You seem to be very bitter that Eastern had a "mediocre year" and that Western won the the regular season LEC championship after I simply questioned the LEC preseason coaches poll. Anyway, I look forward to seeing if Western can win the LEC tourney and the auto bid into the NCAA tourney next week.

[Pat Coleman]

You seem to be someone who gets very confused with the facts,(stats)!  Try to focus now, I have detailed the stats below

ECSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (26-4, 13-1 LEC)
2016-17 (21-9, 11-3 LEC)
2015-16 (18-9, 11-3 LEC)
2014-15 (20-4, 12-1 LEC)
2013-14 (23-7, 14-0 LEC)
2012-13 (22-8, 12-2 LEC)
2011-12 (24-6, 11-3 LEC)
2010-11 (22-10, 10-4 LEC)
2009-10 (20-10, 9-5 LEC)
BTW do some research and find out how many LEC championships and NCAA tournaments Eastern has won/participated in the last 10 years
Western got lucky this year!  We will see how far they go

WCSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (14-13, 8-6 LEC)
2016-17 (12-13, 4-10 LEC)
2015-16 (15-11, 8-6 LEC)
2014-15 (14-12, 6-8 LEC)
2013-14 (17-9, 8-6 LEC)
2012-13 (5-21, 3-11 LEC)
2011-12 (21-7, 10-4 LEC)
2010-11 (22-6, 11-3 LEC)
2009-10 (19-7, 9-5 LEC)
as I said mediocre for at least 7 yrs! assuming you can read this!

Hi there -- you missed a year in your "last 10 years" citation. Don't forget that 2018-19 was also a year -- and maybe with that in mind, you might want to retract your claim about people being confused.

[AllStar]

[ECSUalum]

Western big win at RIC And clinches The regular season title and the # 1 seed throughout the LEC Tourney!!! Congrats WESTCONN!! Oh by the way, I believe Eastern was eliminated from the LEC tourney tonight.

Yeah they were!  Its about time WCSU won an LEC reg season, as they have been a mediocre team for a long time!

Did Eastern even have a men's basketball team prior to 8 years ago???

You seem to be someone who gets very confused with the facts,(stats)!  Try to focus now, I have detailed the stats below

ECSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (26-4, 13-1 LEC)
2016-17 (21-9, 11-3 LEC)
2015-16 (18-9, 11-3 LEC)
2014-15 (20-4, 12-1 LEC)
2013-14 (23-7, 14-0 LEC)
2012-13 (22-8, 12-2 LEC)
2011-12 (24-6, 11-3 LEC)
2010-11 (22-10, 10-4 LEC)
2009-10 (20-10, 9-5 LEC)
BTW do some research and find out how many LEC championships and NCAA tournaments Eastern has won/participated in the last 10 years
Western got lucky this year!  We will see how far they go

WCSU mens basketball 10 yr record:
2017-18 (14-13, 8-6 LEC)
2016-17 (12-13, 4-10 LEC)
2015-16 (15-11, 8-6 LEC)
2014-15 (14-12, 6-8 LEC)
2013-14 (17-9, 8-6 LEC)
2012-13 (5-21, 3-11 LEC)
2011-12 (21-7, 10-4 LEC)
2010-11 (22-6, 11-3 LEC)
2009-10 (19-7, 9-5 LEC)
as I said mediocre for at least 7 yrs! assuming you can read this!

Ha! I see how it works with you. So you can insult me on this board about being able to read and  question my maturity over my sour grape comment. I  Can read it just fine homer,  but maybe you should learn how to count and not be so uptight. I see nine seasons here, not 10 as you mention. So did they have a basketball program prior to 9 years ago??? Were they relevant??? Since you seem to like to Throw out numbers/stats from the past, I know Western did okay under Bob Campbell who only won 589 games in 30 years and went to the NCAA tournament 12 times, 5 LEC championships and had 12 seasons with 20 plus wins. But this is all old news just like your Eastern squad over the last 9 years. It's the past. You seem to be very bitter that Eastern had a "mediocre year" and that Western won the the regular season LEC championship after I simply questioned the LEC preseason coaches poll. Anyway, I look forward to seeing if Western can win the LEC tourney and the auto bid into the NCAA tourney next week.

More petty comments on this board from Coleman and whoever "wcsu91" is. It seem both have been jealous of the Warriors success for a long time! At least I try to document my comments with stats!
D3hoops seems to have all the data, re the polls, but fail to post it on the web site, so who is really confused! 
Lastly, I have respected  7express, the Colonials, and Bob Campbell over the years, and been critical of ECSU when they have underperformed, but it seems now we have an immature poster who likes to take cheap shots at a historically successful basketball team because they had an off season this year for legitimate reasons, while Western has won one LEC reg season for the first time in many years, and yes we will be watching Western very closely over the coming weeks.

[ECSUalum]

BTW here is ECSU's results from last, TENTH. season:
2018-19 (20-7, 13-3 LEC)

[Pat Coleman]

D3hoops seems to have all the data, re the polls, but fail to post it on the web site, so who is really confused! 

We were assuming you could really read this.

[ECSUalum]

Allstar,  Congrats to Keene on their victory last night, they deserve to be in the LEC tournament as they were the better team!  Keene always seems to play better in the post season so Good Luck going forward!

[ECSUalum]

D3hoops seems to have all the data, re the polls, but fail to post it on the web site, so who is really confused! 

We were assuming you could really read this.

It there was something worth reading!

[Pat Coleman]

D3hoops seems to have all the data, re the polls, but fail to post it on the web site, so who is really confused! 

We were assuming you could really read this.

It there was something worth reading!

I don't know why *I* would be jealous of Eastern's success, though. You should really consider your words before you put them into my mouth. I'm not generally a big fan of that.